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Has Tulsi out smarted them all?

RaleBulgarian said:
I’m willing to wager that Gabbard's support of either candidate would yield negligible results.
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By then, yeah, but in the meantime she is getting votes that would go to one of the geriatrics if she pulled out today. Not many votes but in a tight primary she might be doing someone a favour. Hell, if she's taking votes from Joe Blow then John Doe might be well-advised to cover her costs.
 
Hicup said:
Because I like to look at things with an open mind when discussing politics, aren't we all politicos?


Tim-
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I am interested in the other side because if you don't understand the opposition there's little chance you can defeat them.
 
Hicup said:
I think even the dimwits on TV and the pundits will have to eventually admit what's going on with Biden is not good, any way you slice it, and I believe it's the reason Obama has not endorsed him yet. All the other candidates dropped out with sweatheart deals, (not that they would ever come to fruition) Gabbard checks a lot of boxes with the woke crowd. I know she has but a single delegate, but think about this. "When" Biden makes that one gaff that everyone knows isn't a gaffe, who will be left? Can she stay in long enough for that to happen? Wouldn't the moderate left have no choice but to support her?

My theory is that a lot of dimwits voters see what everyone else sees with Biden, and Gabbard will get some delegates next week, a LOT more. Will they throw their support at her? Will the money?

To be honest, very early on I stated right on this very forum that she was the ONLY one in the entire field I feared going up against Trump, I still feel that way, maybe the smart kids in the dimwit party aren't so smart after all. Not surprising actually, they've gotten it wrong a lot.

In all honesty, she's still a little to left for me, but she's likable and likability isn't something we've seen a dimwit or repblicanwit candidate in quite some time.


Thoughts?

Tim-
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I think its very unlikely that within a week Gabbard, who averaged less than 1% among Super Tuesday states, will within a week suddenly start getting a LOT more delegates.

Personally I don't see her being a particularly strong candidate. A lot of the left hates her because of her foreign policy views, her attacks of the Democratic party, her former opposition to Same Sex Marriage, and her perceived willingness to meet with and consider Trump. A lot of the right definitely would hate her, even if they don't right now, considering she supports a version of Medicare for All, has an F rating by the NRA, is pro-choice, supports making community college free for all students and 4 year colleges free for many students, and supports the broad strokes of the Green New Deal.

There are a lot of people on each side for which some of those issues makes her a candidate they can't support. I don't think she would do well in a national election.
 
bubbabgone said:
Actually, if you listened to Biden, he said he asked Obama not to endorse. Not that he asked Obama not to endorse him.
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A difference without distinction, him or any candidate. Apparently, President Barack is doing just that.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Of course you don't, it undercuts your narrative.

Remind me, who has Barack endorsed?
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It's not a narrative for God's sake. I'm thinking out loud, and thinking politically about the science of it. If you're a dimwit voter, seriously and you're a moderate, are you happy with your choices this year? The socialist or the senile? If it were me, I'd be seriously looking at Gabbard, that's all I'm saying, so I'm asking questions, posing scenarios, and asking YOU folks, the one's who vote democrat, what do you think? I'm getting some honest answers which is all I'm looking for. I want to get a gauge on how all of you think. I would be seriously losing my **** if I were you, and this is 2016 all over again.

Holding your nose when you pull the lever..

Tim-
 
Hicup said:
I think even the dimwits on TV and the pundits will have to eventually admit what's going on with Biden is not good, any way you slice it, and I believe it's the reason Obama has not endorsed him yet. All the other candidates dropped out with sweatheart deals, (not that they would ever come to fruition) Gabbard checks a lot of boxes with the woke crowd. I know she has but a single delegate, but think about this. "When" Biden makes that one gaff that everyone knows isn't a gaffe, who will be left? Can she stay in long enough for that to happen? Wouldn't the moderate left have no choice but to support her?

My theory is that a lot of dimwits voters see what everyone else sees with Biden, and Gabbard will get some delegates next week, a LOT more. Will they throw their support at her? Will the money?

To be honest, very early on I stated right on this very forum that she was the ONLY one in the entire field I feared going up against Trump, I still feel that way, maybe the smart kids in the dimwit party aren't so smart after all. Not surprising actually, they've gotten it wrong a lot.

In all honesty, she's still a little to left for me, but she's likable and likability isn't something we've seen a dimwit or repblicanwit candidate in quite some time.


Thoughts?

Tim-
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The conspiracy theory forum is further down.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
A difference without distinction, him or any candidate. Apparently, President Barack is doing just that.
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Oh no no no. It's a difference with a great deal of distinction as far as what Biden sensed about Obama.
 
Anagram said:
I think its very unlikely that within a week Gabbard, who averaged less than 1% among Super Tuesday states, will within a week suddenly start getting a LOT more delegates.

Personally I don't see her being a particularly strong candidate. A lot of the left hates her because of her foreign policy views, her attacks of the Democratic party, her former opposition to Same Sex Marriage, and her perceived willingness to meet with and consider Trump. A lot of the right definitely would hate her, even if they don't right now, considering she supports a version of Medicare for All, has an F rating by the NRA, is pro-choice, supports making community college free for all students and 4 year colleges free for many students, and supports the broad strokes of the Green New Deal.

There are a lot of people on each side for which some of those issues makes her a candidate they can't support. I don't think she would do well in a national election.
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That's fair, I dunno though, I guess we'll see, but I think it could boost her appeal to moderates now that the only so called moderate left is a senile old white man!

Tim-
 
Redress said:
The conspiracy theory forum is further down.
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It's a conspiracy to suggest the only female, brown-skinned, moderate, could actually walk away with the nomination? Maybe, a little out there but not a conspiracy? Where's the conspiracy?

Tim-
 
Hicup said:
It's a conspiracy to suggest the only female, brown-skinned, moderate, could actually walk away with the nomination? Maybe, a little out there but not a conspiracy? Where's the conspiracy?

Tim-
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No, everything about your OP is conspiracy theory, or based on conspiracy theory.
 
Hicup said:
It's not a narrative for God's sake. I'm thinking out loud, and thinking politically about the science of it. If you're a dimwit voter, seriously and you're a moderate, are you happy with your choices this year? The socialist or the senile? If it were me, I'd be seriously looking at Gabbard, that's all I'm saying, so I'm asking questions, posing scenarios, and asking YOU folks, the one's who vote democrat, what do you think? I'm getting some honest answers which is all I'm looking for. I want to get a gauge on how all of you think. I would be seriously losing my **** if I were you, and this is 2016 all over again.

Holding your nose when you pull the lever..

Tim-
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You claim it is not your narrative, then you go on with your narrative.

The reason it is a narrative is because you are not creating a discussion with me, you are making broad statements about some fantasy "moderate". I'm NOT a moderate, ie, you are telling me your narrative.

The fact remains, Biden asked Obama not to endorse....and he hasn't.
 
Redress said:
No, everything about your OP is conspiracy theory, or based on conspiracy theory.
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Where's the conspiracy? You mean the part about Obama? Ok, maybe that part I'll give ya that, but what about the rest? Not plausible I can see, but certainly not a conspiracy?


Tim-
 
bubbabgone said:
Oh no no no. It's a difference with a great deal of distinction as far as what Biden sensed about Obama.
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Oh, I keep forgetting that you know the mind of anyone you speak of....
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You claim it is not your narrative, then you go on with your narrative.

The reason it is a narrative is because you are not creating a discussion with me, you are making broad statements about some fantasy "moderate". I'm NOT a moderate, ie, you are telling me your narrative.

The fact remains, Biden asked Obama not to endorse....and he hasn't.
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Ok, so you're a no on Gabbard, got it. :)

Tim-
 
Hicup said:
Ok, so you're a no on Gabbard, got it. :)

Tim-
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Well, that seems to be a win for me, you have shifted the goal post, apparently you were delivering a narrative and you accept President Obama has not endorsed anyone.

As far as Gabbard....who?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Oh, I keep forgetting that you know the mind of anyone you speak of....
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Hell, grounds for a President's impeachment have been through bad mindreading when the words didn't support it.
Just like in this case I know the words spoken and they weren't what you said was spoken.
It's not mindreading ... it's just reading.
It would have been easy to add the word "me" but he didn't.
 
Hicup said:
I think even the dimwits on TV and the pundits will have to eventually admit what's going on with Biden is not good, any way you slice it, and I believe it's the reason Obama has not endorsed him yet. All the other candidates dropped out with sweatheart deals, (not that they would ever come to fruition) Gabbard checks a lot of boxes with the woke crowd. I know she has but a single delegate, but think about this. "When" Biden makes that one gaff that everyone knows isn't a gaffe, who will be left? Can she stay in long enough for that to happen? Wouldn't the moderate left have no choice but to support her?

My theory is that a lot of dimwits voters see what everyone else sees with Biden, and Gabbard will get some delegates next week, a LOT more. Will they throw their support at her? Will the money?

To be honest, very early on I stated right on this very forum that she was the ONLY one in the entire field I feared going up against Trump, I still feel that way, maybe the smart kids in the dimwit party aren't so smart after all. Not surprising actually, they've gotten it wrong a lot.

In all honesty, she's still a little to left for me, but she's likable and likability isn't something we've seen a dimwit or repblicanwit candidate in quite some time.


Thoughts?

Tim-
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She as two delegates so far. She'd have to run the table to collect enough to even be a blip on the election.
 
bubbabgone said:
It's not mindreading ... it's just reading.
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Ah, when you say "what Biden sensed about Obama", it was something from something that was written about something.

Good to know. Keep us up to date on those sources, mkay?
 
Grand Mal said:
By then, yeah, but in the meantime she is getting votes that would go to one of the geriatrics if she pulled out today. Not many votes but in a tight primary she might be doing someone a favour. Hell, if she's taking votes from Joe Blow then John Doe might be well-advised to cover her costs.
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Considering her secret meeting with Assad in ‘17, and it taking two years for her to publicly denounce the mass murdering dictator, and her past negative remarks about the LGBTQ community, I doubt either Biden or Sanders are very interested in her support.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Ah, when you say "what Biden sensed about Obama", it was something from something that was written about something.

Good to know. Keep us up to date on those sources, mkay?
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My source is Biden. Granted, he's even more befuddled now, but he didn't say then what you claimed for a reason. What was it?
 
Hicup said:
Where's the conspiracy? You mean the part about Obama? Ok, maybe that part I'll give ya that, but what about the rest? Not plausible I can see, but certainly not a conspiracy?


Tim-
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What part of the word “everything” confuses you?
 
Bullseye said:
She as two delegates so far. She'd have to run the table to collect enough to even be a blip on the election.
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I'll come back to this thread next Wednesday.. I suspect she'll have a bit more delegates in her pocket, and more money. Biden is NOT going to make it to the convention, that's NOT happening, he can't run from the media, and they can only cover for him for so long. We ALL know it, even the one's that are not admitting it. He will NOT be President, he won't even be the nominee. Bank on it!


Tim-
 
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