Page 1 of 14 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 131

Thread: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

  1. #1
    Professor Diesel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Location
    NYC, USA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    1,382

    Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Aaron Schock is gay. Whatever. Here's what interests me:

    While defending himself against all the charges made against him, Schock admitted to one clear regret — being against gay marriage while in office.

    Ex-Rep. Aaron Schock comes out as gay, disowned by family

    This begs a question that I have been considering for decades. In a representative democracy, when is it appropriate for an elected official to subvert the popular will of their constituency? In this case, we didn't just have a white guy opposing civil rights for black Americans. We had a gay guy opposing civil rights for gay Americans. Not only did he do what was wrong in general, but he did what was wrong for himself. I think that this kind of politician actually damages the society he represents.
    "There was a child went forth every day,
    And the first object he look'd upon, that object he became"
    --Walt Whitman

  2. #2
    Guru
    Pound4abrown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Maine
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    4,614

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Politicians of both sides subvert the actual will of some of their constitutions all the time. You can never please everyone, and to think a Republican is going to be on board with non-republican issues, is silly (and vice-versa).
    I just hope ex-Rep Schock finds the way to a happiness he worked so hard for others to never be able to obtain.

  3. #3
    Sage Old 'N Chill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Location
    USA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:27 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    5,041

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    I agree. I think there are too many politicians, mainly republicans, who are hypocrites and can't be trusted to be fair in the regard of civil rights, gay rights or women's rights. I give Schock credit though for finally coming out, there's some more it seems who are still hiding in the closet because their party will reject them if they come out. I also give him credit for acknowledging and appreciating those who worked hard to give all Americans equal rights regardless of sexual orientation.
    VOTE DEMOCRATIC IN 2020
    Voting third party is a vote for Trump


  4. #4
    Guru swing_voter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    'Murica
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:01 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    4,461

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Aaron Schock is gay. Whatever. Here's what interests me:

    While defending himself against all the charges made against him, Schock admitted to one clear regret — being against gay marriage while in office.

    Ex-Rep. Aaron Schock comes out as gay, disowned by family

    This begs a question that I have been considering for decades. In a representative democracy, when is it appropriate for an elected official to subvert the popular will of their constituency? In this case, we didn't just have a white guy opposing civil rights for black Americans. We had a gay guy opposing civil rights for gay Americans. Not only did he do what was wrong in general, but he did what was wrong for himself. I think that this kind of politician actually damages the society he represents.

    Voters can vote him out of office if they want.

  5. #5
    Professor Diesel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Location
    NYC, USA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    1,382

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Pound4abrown View Post
    Politicians of both sides subvert the actual will of some of their constitutions all the time. You can never please everyone, and to think a Republican is going to be on board with non-republican issues, is silly (and vice-versa).
    I just hope ex-Rep Schock finds the way to a happiness he worked so hard for others to never be able to obtain.
    Some issues aren't political, even though small minds reduce every issue to its political value. That's my point. A person who is so invested in a political effort that he would use a political platform to damage his own self is a psychopath.
    "There was a child went forth every day,
    And the first object he look'd upon, that object he became"
    --Walt Whitman

  6. #6
    Visual Opportunist
    Tanngrisnir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    No longer Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    33,210

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Voters can vote him out of office if they want.
    He's currently not in office.
    Well, he see this one particularly hot chick and not does she bag he slackjawed, but he lets a "Whoa" slip out

  7. #7
    Professor Diesel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Location
    NYC, USA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    1,382

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Old 'N Chill View Post
    I agree. I think there are too many politicians, mainly republicans, who are hypocrites and can't be trusted to be fair in the regard of civil rights, gay rights or women's rights. I give Schock credit though for finally coming out, there's some more it seems who are still hiding in the closet because their party will reject them if they come out. I also give him credit for acknowledging and appreciating those who worked hard to give all Americans equal rights regardless of sexual orientation.
    I give him an appropriate amount of credit. It's really hard to come out of the closet most times. But this asshole spent a career working against the basic civil rights of other human beings. I hope he will be happy and fulfilled. All people deserve that. But I would spit in his hair if I was standing behind him at a concert.
    "There was a child went forth every day,
    And the first object he look'd upon, that object he became"
    --Walt Whitman

  8. #8
    Professor Diesel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Location
    NYC, USA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    1,382

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Voters can vote him out of office if they want.
    He hasn't been in office since 2015.
    "There was a child went forth every day,
    And the first object he look'd upon, that object he became"
    --Walt Whitman

  9. #9
    Advisor
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:54 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    375

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    When is it appropriate for an elected official to subvert the popular will of their constituency?

    When he or she doesn't believe it is the right thing to do. On the other hand, there are situations where they could go against their "best judgement". So the answer is "it depends".

  10. #10
    Sage
    Robertinfremont's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Meridian, Idaho
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:54 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    10,547

    Re: Another anti-gay person comes out of the closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Aaron Schock is gay. Whatever. Here's what interests me:

    While defending himself against all the charges made against him, Schock admitted to one clear regret — being against gay marriage while in office.

    Ex-Rep. Aaron Schock comes out as gay, disowned by family

    This begs a question that I have been considering for decades. In a representative democracy, when is it appropriate for an elected official to subvert the popular will of their constituency? In this case, we didn't just have a white guy opposing civil rights for black Americans. We had a gay guy opposing civil rights for gay Americans. Not only did he do what was wrong in general, but he did what was wrong for himself. I think that this kind of politician actually damages the society he represents.
    Are homoxexual "rights" superior to my non homosexual rights? Rights for what?
    The criticism of Trump to say it mildly is not relevant. The man performs his office magnificently. Take a racer at the 500 Indy race. The driver may have womanized. May have boozed and gambled. May have never voted. But man can that driver race.
    Trump is like the winner of the Indy 500.

Page 1 of 14 12311 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •