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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Which ironically, makes him also extremely unqualified to be the President. One is a racist sexual predator who was a well-known associate of infamous pedophile and human trafficker, Jeffery Epstein. The other is also that, but a 140 pounds lighter, and a couple feet shorter.



    Trump is putting Hispanic children in cages. The other wants to give everyone healthcare so they don't die or go bankrupt. Horseshoe theory once again fails.
    We are faced with the same choices we had in 2016, which is the worst of 2 evils but the reality is that not only is Trump the worst of the evils but Bloomberg is nowhere near as bad as Hillary. I keep mentioning the fact that Bloomberg has been one of the top 10 philanthropists on 10 straight years and you are not a philanthropist if you don't actually care about others. As such, the choice is the devil (Trump) or an intelligent and competent spoiled brat.
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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    That statement is exactly correct and it's what I've been saying for weeks here. Russia WANTS Bernie to be the candidate because they know that with their help again, Trump will win over Bernie Sanders. With Bernie Sanders as the chosen candidate at the DNC, the Russian trolls would immediately go into overdrive with a negative campaign specifically created to take votes from Bernie Sanders and towards Trump. there's plenty of ammo they will use against Sanders and he would be a guarantee that Trump would win reelection. Even moderates who voted for HRC in the 2016 would not vote for Bernie Sanders.
    I worry you are right. Bernie supporters constantly go on about the polls showing him beating Trump as if polls right now on a general election have any value at all. In the Spring and early Summer of 1988, Dukakis polled between 20 and 30 points ahead of Bush. Bush went on that fall to win in a landslide. We have never won the White House with anyone that ran far to the left. McGovern, Mondale, and Dukakis all ran as hardcore liberals, all of them lost in landslides. Even FDR did not run far to the left in 1932 - and even if you think he did, FDR's talent as a politician was light years ahead of Bernie.
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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    He talks a good game but imploded twice in a row in debates.
    Everyone has imploded at some point, either at a debate or with their extreme views that go against what people want.
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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    7 Resurfaced Remarks That Aren’t Helping Mike Bloomberg’s Campaign

    However, Bloomberg's hideous remark last night toward Bernie at the debates was pretty outrageous.
    Let's review:
    Vladimir Putin thinks that Donald Trump should be president of the United States, and that’s why Russia is helping you get elected, so you’ll lose to him” Bloomberg told Sanders.
    7 remarks- OMFG
    7 ya say

    Many would say that is a slow day for Trump
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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I largely agree with you. There is no doubt he is an exponentially better businessman than Trump. There is no doubt he is a much better manager. As to philanthropy, anyone is better than Trump as Trump's charity was just another one of his scams.

    The problem Bloomberg has is he is a terrible debater and a very uninspiring speaker. The guy is just pure pragmatism. I like that, but you need more than that to win. It reminds me of the story about Adlai Stevenson being approached by a supporter:

    "Known for his good nature, Stevenson was once approached by a young woman supporter, the first time that he decided to run for the president’s post. She said, “Governor, every thinking person would be voting for you”. He retorted, “Madam, that is not enough. I need a majority.”
    That is absolutely hilarious and unfortunately 100% true.
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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyone View Post
    In listening to Michael Bloomberg at the CNN town hall that is happening as I write this, I am 100% convinced that not only would he be a good President but is the most capable of beating Donald Trump.

    Everything that Trump is good at, Bloomberg is better and everything that Michael Bloomberg is accused of having done, Trump has been accused of doing worse.

    I don't see anyone at this time that would be better than Bloomberg to be president other than perhaps Steyer but even then, in some respects Bloomberg would probably be better. That is not to say he is the best possible person but of what is available, there is no one better. There is no doubt in my mind that if nominated, he would beat Trump.

    1) better businessman
    2) better manager
    3) better for the economy
    4) better to address gender and color injustice
    5) more philanthropic
    Dude did his best work as a Republican. Now he's doing a total flip-flop and kissing LW ass.
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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I worry you are right. Bernie supporters constantly go on about the polls showing him beating Trump as if polls right now on a general election have any value at all. In the Spring and early Summer of 1988, Dukakis polled between 20 and 30 points ahead of Bush. Bush went on that fall to win in a landslide. We have never won the White House with anyone that ran far to the left. McGovern, Mondale, and Dukakis all ran as hardcore liberals, all of them lost in landslides. Even FDR did not run far to the left in 1932 - and even if you think he did, FDR's talent as a politician was light years ahead of Bernie.
    And as it turned out, FDR was the first president who created one of the biggest self-funded programs this country has ever had, Social Security. Lyndon Johnson created Medicare in 1965, a publicly funded program. Both programs were viewed to be pretty far to the left. Both were democrats of course which tells me that it's democrats that tend to create programs designed to help Americans whether they're living in poverty at poverty level or aging or ill. According the the late Senator John Dingle, the longest serving member of Congress, "The Republicans hated both Social Security and Medicare like the devil hates holy water. And they fought it right up to the last minute".

    Republicans have a long history of resistance to social welfare programs especially when it's created and signed into law by a democratic president.







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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Dude did his best work as a Republican. Now he's doing a total flip-flop and kissing LW ass.
    I don't like Lizzie Warren at all, but props to her for getting in her Bloomberg digs, but being the opportunist she is, I think she might be vying for Sander's veep and was doing the deed.

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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    7 remarks- OMFG
    7 ya say

    Many would say that is a slow day for Trump
    Most people would take telling 7 lies over POTUS's 16,000+ and add on the few he told tonight standing right next to the CDC.

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    Re: Town Hall with Michael Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    And as it turned out, FDR was the first president who created one of the biggest self-funded programs this country has ever had, Social Security. Lyndon Johnson created Medicare in 1965, a publicly funded program. Both programs were viewed to be pretty far to the left. Both were democrats of course which tells me that it's democrats that tend to create programs designed to help Americans whether they're living in poverty at poverty level or aging or ill. According the the late Senator John Dingle, the longest serving member of Congress, "The Republicans hated both Social Security and Medicare like the devil hates holy water. And they fought it right up to the last minute"

    Republicans have a long history of resistance to social welfare programs especially when it's created and signed into law by a democratic president.
    Those programs were a much easier sell though. In the case of Social Security, it was during the depression and seniors were the largest demographic living in poverty. Moreover, people were often stuck supporting their parents that were too old and sick to work, at the same time they were trying to raise their kids.

    In the case of Medicare, seniors due the risk they pose an insurer, are virtually uninsurable absent massive subsidies (think Medicare Advantage where the taxpayer foots the bill). Thus a large, and very reliably voting portion of the electorate went without health coverage.

    Medicare for everyone is a much, much harder sell because you are not just providing coverage to people that don't have it or can't afford it, you are moving 150 million people from private insurance to Medicare. Even if it would be better coverage than the majority of insurance plans, people are very conservative (with a small c) when it comes to big changes in their lives like that. Maybe a president as talented as FDR could sell it, but a politician that talented comes along once every 150 years or so.
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