Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

[Linc]

And how do you explain that she is getting only 7% of the vote???

Because she’s an accomplished legislator.

 

[Surrealistik]

150,000,000 Americans are insured through work. A lot of these people don't want to give up their work place health insurance.

Can Bernie win with numbers like that?

Yes, given the insurance that replaces is it better and cheaper.

 

[Court Jester]

Because everyone is afraid of upsetting his [Sanders'] diehard followers.

The best thing ADULTS can do for CHILDREN is for adults to teach children the difference between fantasy and reality. If it hurts their feeling... well, they will have their entire lives to learn how to deal their feelings like adults should.

 

[TurtleDude]

Her Minnesota is trending RED, though she won it by 540,000 in 2018. Btw, Sherrod won Ohio by 300,000.

brown ran against an idiot. I don't think he'd beat portman

 

[Craig234]

150,000,000 Americans are insured through work. A lot of these people don't want to give up their work place health insurance.

Can Bernie win with numbers like that?

Fair question.

Are they clueless enough not to appreciate why Medicare for all is a better system?

It's funny, they are lied to that it's Bernie's plan that doesn't give them choice, when it does.

It's their employer insurance that picks their insurance and tells them what networks and hospitals they have to use.

 

[Chomsky]

She's the only one on the stage that - though I, as a conservative, disagree with sharply - like, and think, might actually like me.

It's the Midwestern thing. I like it myself. But it doesn't play well everywhere, at least in terms of public & personal charisma. It's more about "substance", than flash. Some of us can see the substance, others can't. Some of us have a natural aversion to "flash", which is why Trump doesn't play well with some of us. <-- me

 

[Greenbeard]

No, mayors manage the people who keep the snowplows running. Effective executives aren't keeping paper in the copiers.

"Vice President Mondale and myself were just talking about the Marvex 3000 this morning, as a matter of fact."

 

[TurtleDude]

Because she’s an accomplished legislator.

and has the charisma of a trash can

 

[JasperL]

Let me: she's kind of a bitch.

Yeah, I'm afraid that's true. A guy who's an asshole is strong, etc. but a woman is just a bitch.

 

[Linc]

And awesome moment from Sanders on Israel and Palestine.

Not with 600,000 Jewish-Americans in Florida, let alone the other 19 swing states.

 

[Erod]

150,000,000 Americans are insured through work. A lot of these people don't want to give up their work place health insurance.

Can Bernie win with numbers like that?

Plus their families. No go.

 

[Drawdown]

The thing about Bloomberg is he needs to keep AA support that has drifted to him from Biden, which is very fluid right now, and I'm not so sure that if Biden wins SC big that AA's don't come back over to him for Super Tuesday and prevent Bloomberg from anything more than an odd state.

But, it's hard to tell with the race being fluid who's where.

Bloomberg should be positioned well to win Virginia, Biden takes SC and NC a toss up. My guess is that Bernie will lose his slight lead in Texas after tonight. In the end, a lot of these states are the hybrids so they will be splitting up delegates regardless of who gets the trophy.

 

[GreatNews2night]

Amy recovered a lot, to the point that I'm now thinking she's been the second best.

For me:

1. Bloomberg
2. Klobuchar
3. Buttigieg
4. Steyer
5. Sanders
6. Biden
7. Warren

Sort of. I'm actually having trouble making a gradation as they are all kind of all over the place.

Two of the rankings, though, I'm pretty sure about:

1. Bloomberg
7. Warren

the exact opposite of last week

 

[Craig234]

Unfortunately he presided over substantive nuclear proliferation in that he basically gave Israel more or less a complete pass regarding its gestating nuclear program at the time versus Kennedy.

That's completely false. JFK opposed Israel getting nuclear weapons and did what he could to prevent it. Israel lied to him, fought him, falsified inspections, and got a reactor from France. It was after JFK that the US let Israel have the bomb, suggesting they not admit it, which Israel did.

 

[jnug]

Nah. She's the Midwestern girl-next-door. Midwesterner's love her. I see that appeal. And also see how that may not appeal country-wide ...

Senators make lousy Presidents. Other than James Monroe and John Quincy Adams the cavalcade of awful going from Senate to WH is pretty alarming. Kennedy is the modern exception. But Kennedy was not really a Senator. Kennedy was a Kennedy. Kennedy's were/are a political entity unto themselves. The Senate was never more than a springboard for John Kennedy. If Senators have a stint in government administration they have a shot at being a decent President. Generally speaking they are a fail if they go straight from Senate to WH.

 

[Court Jester]

OMG Bernie just called Netanyahu a big racist. That is so sad because Netanyahu has been able to break bearers with many Middle Eastern countries as well as working with multiple African countries. So sad to hear this kind of rhetoric.

I'm a big fan of Netanyahu, the only democratic leader in that area of the world.

Btw, Bernie claims to be a "proud Jew" yet he would throw the Israeli people under the bus of Islamo-Facism in a heartbeat. King Herod was a better Jew than Bernie.

 

[swing_voter]

Yeah, I'm afraid that's true. A guy who's an asshole is strong, etc. but a woman is just a bitch.

Klobochar is a good example of a woman who is strong without seeming bitchy.

 

[Linc]

Yes, JFK was a political whore by picking LBJ - which came back to bite him as president, but the country got lucky that LBJ shocked the country by being a southerner who supported (most of) JFK's policies as president's instead of the south's.

Attacking JFK will certainly work for Sanders, as will threatening to primary Obama.

 

[trixare4kids]

This debate is embarrassing to watch.
The Democrats should feel worried.

 

[Craig234]

Senators make lousy Presidents. Other than James Monroe and John Quincy Adams the cavalcade of awful going from Senate to WH is pretty alarming. Kennedy is the modern exception. But Kennedy was not really a Democrat. Kennedy was a Kennedy. They were/are a political entity unto themselves. The Senate was never more than a springboard for John Kennedy. If Senators have a stint in government administration they have a shot at being a decent President. Generally speaking they are a fail if they go straight from Senate to WH.

Kennedy was a Democrat. Really a Democrat.

So much disinformation.

 

[Surrealistik]

Not with 600,000 Jewish-Americans in Florida, let alone the other 19 swing states.

So your notion is that he should sell out and pursue bad policy in the vain hope of appealing to people for those who have Israel's regional dominance as their most important issue?

You do realize they will almost certainly go with Trump anyways given he's demonstrably Israel's heavy handed cheer-leader-in-chief, right?

 

[Erod]

Amy recovered a lot, to the point that I'm now thinking she's been the second best.

For me:

1. Bloomberg
2. Klobuchar
3. Buttigieg
4. Steyer
5. Sanders
6. Biden
7. Warren

Sort of. I'm actually having trouble making a gradation as they are all kind of all over the place.

Two of the rankings, though, I'm pretty sure about:

1. Bloomberg
7. Warren

the exact opposite of last week

Warren and Bernie are having a rough debate. Right before Super Tuesday.

 

[Diesel]

"Vice President Mondale and myself were just talking about the Marvex 3000 this morning, as a matter of fact."

I've never seen that before. That was hilarious.

 

[cpwill]

OMG Bernie just called Netanyahu a big racist. That is so sad because Netanyahu has been able to break bearers with many Middle Eastern countries as well as working with multiple African countries. So sad to hear this kind of rhetoric.

But With Castro, You Gotta Understand.....

 

[TurtleDude]

"I'm not boring" . LOL Amy