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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrump View Post
    I do not remember hearing this question tonight.
    This question was asked and answered last week.
    Please take COVID-19 seriously; don't panic but don't deny it; practice social distancing (stay 6ft from people); wash your hands a lot, don't touch your face, don't gather with too many people, so that you help us contain it. It's not a concern just for the elderly. If we allow our health care system to be overwhelmed, all age groups who might need all other care will suffer.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    No, man, couldn't disagree more.

    Bloomberg is a nightmare. He has no path. Both progressives and liberals hate the man. If he manages to steal the nomination some how, the party will revolt at a racist billionaire buying the primary, and we WILL lose to Trump in the fall out of people refusing to vote for someone of his standing.
    I think he has a path to the nomination, unlikely, unfortunate and remote as it is, but to the presidency? Forget it for precisely the reasons you mentioned.
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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Warren's wealth tax would guarantee that the wall street elite will turn their backs on the Dem ticket if she is on it and more than a few would back Trump
    Sounds like a plus to me.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Some number of moderates have to drop out as soon as the vote is taken in SC if for no other reason than to at least make a statement to the party that they are making the effort. Liz needs to get out also. She is not even running for the nomination at this point.

    Is Liz there in case Bernie has another heart attack?

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

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    Wow, I didn't know that VT had a Republican governor. How in the hell did they elect a Republican? VT is solidly blue, no?
    Failed single-payer push.

    Why a Republican Might Win Bernie’s Home State
    For all the talk of Sanders’ revolution rattling the establishment and moving the country to the left, reality looks quite different in the state that birthed Sanders’ would-be uprising. Bernie is still beloved here, where 86 percent of voters in the Democratic primary supported him—his strongest showing in the country. But some political experts suggest the cost of Sanders-style progressive policies—including, most notably, the state’s failed single-payer health care system—is driving many voters away from the Democrats, substantially boosting the odds that Republicans could retake the governorship this November.
    But today, chief among the issues defining the governor’s campaign here is the single-payer health care system Vermonters were promised by current Democratic Governor Peter Shumlin, who also spent more than $200 million to keep the state’s health exchange—formed to comply with the Affordable Care Act—operational.

    Over the past seven fiscal years—predating the start of Shumlin’s time in office—Vermont’s budget expenditures have grown by more than $600 million. In a state with just 626,000 people, that’s been a substantial hit on taxpayers.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    If Trump got to pick:


    1. Bernie
    2. Warren
    3. Buttigieg
    4. Biden
    5. Klobochar
    6. Bloomberg

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    No, man, couldn't disagree more.

    Bloomberg is a nightmare. He has no path. Both progressives and liberals hate the man. If he manages to steal the nomination some how, the party will revolt at a racist billionaire buying the primary, and we WILL lose to Trump in the fall out of people refusing to vote for someone of his standing.
    I know that. There isn't a bigger disaster for the Dems in November than Bloomberg winning the nomination.

    Again, people are misunderstanding me here. I'm not analyzing this from the standpoint of endorsing these people. I have already voted for Bernie. I'm just saying, Bloomberg will be a force to reckon with, and he actually does have a path to the nomination, unlike Warren, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Steyer. Biden does too if he recovers, and obviously Bernie, the front runner, does, more than anybody.

    Yes, if Bloomberg wins, it will be a disaster for November. But yes, he is one of three viable ones (for the nomination, not in November)
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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    If people think Bernie was bad tonight, just wait until the GOP starts focusing on him. Good lord what a mistake the Democrats are making.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Thanks for looking at the link, and for responding. Yeah, Chicagoan's take snow removal seriously. Winter is the citizens' common enemy!
    Yes, well, there's next to nothing that anyone can do about a 35-inch snowstorm, much less a politician who was never elected to deal with snowstorms.
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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    If Trump got to pick:


    1. Bernie
    2. Warren
    3. Buttigieg
    4. Biden
    5. Klobochar
    6. Bloomberg
    Because trump is an idiot. Hillary got to pick, and she picked trump.

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