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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    150,000,000 Americans are insured through work. A lot of these people don't want to give up their work place health insurance.

    Can Bernie win with numbers like that?
    Plus their families. No go.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    The thing about Bloomberg is he needs to keep AA support that has drifted to him from Biden, which is very fluid right now, and I'm not so sure that if Biden wins SC big that AA's don't come back over to him for Super Tuesday and prevent Bloomberg from anything more than an odd state.

    But, it's hard to tell with the race being fluid who's where.
    Bloomberg should be positioned well to win Virginia, Biden takes SC and NC a toss up. My guess is that Bernie will lose his slight lead in Texas after tonight. In the end, a lot of these states are the hybrids so they will be splitting up delegates regardless of who gets the trophy.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Amy recovered a lot, to the point that I'm now thinking she's been the second best.

    For me:

    1. Bloomberg
    2. Klobuchar
    3. Buttigieg
    4. Steyer
    5. Sanders
    6. Biden
    7. Warren

    Sort of. I'm actually having trouble making a gradation as they are all kind of all over the place.

    Two of the rankings, though, I'm pretty sure about:

    1. Bloomberg
    7. Warren

    the exact opposite of last week
    Please take COVID-19 seriously; don't panic but don't deny it; practice social distancing (stay 6ft from people); wash your hands a lot, don't touch your face, don't gather with too many people, so that you help us contain it. It's not a concern just for the elderly. If we allow our health care system to be overwhelmed, all age groups who might need all other care will suffer.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistik View Post
    Unfortunately he presided over substantive nuclear proliferation in that he basically gave Israel more or less a complete pass regarding its gestating nuclear program at the time versus Kennedy.
    That's completely false. JFK opposed Israel getting nuclear weapons and did what he could to prevent it. Israel lied to him, fought him, falsified inspections, and got a reactor from France. It was after JFK that the US let Israel have the bomb, suggesting they not admit it, which Israel did.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Nah. She's the Midwestern girl-next-door. Midwesterner's love her. I see that appeal. And also see how that may not appeal country-wide ...
    Senators make lousy Presidents. Other than James Monroe and John Quincy Adams the cavalcade of awful going from Senate to WH is pretty alarming. Kennedy is the modern exception. But Kennedy was not really a Senator. Kennedy was a Kennedy. Kennedy's were/are a political entity unto themselves. The Senate was never more than a springboard for John Kennedy. If Senators have a stint in government administration they have a shot at being a decent President. Generally speaking they are a fail if they go straight from Senate to WH.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    OMG Bernie just called Netanyahu a big racist. That is so sad because Netanyahu has been able to break bearers with many Middle Eastern countries as well as working with multiple African countries. So sad to hear this kind of rhetoric.
    I'm a big fan of Netanyahu, the only democratic leader in that area of the world.

    Btw, Bernie claims to be a "proud Jew" yet he would throw the Israeli people under the bus of Islamo-Facism in a heartbeat. King Herod was a better Jew than Bernie.
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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Yeah, I'm afraid that's true. A guy who's an asshole is strong, etc. but a woman is just a bitch.
    Klobochar is a good example of a woman who is strong without seeming bitchy.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    Yes, JFK was a political whore by picking LBJ - which came back to bite him as president, but the country got lucky that LBJ shocked the country by being a southerner who supported (most of) JFK's policies as president's instead of the south's.
    Attacking JFK will certainly work for Sanders, as will threatening to primary Obama.
    #Dignity of Work.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    This debate is embarrassing to watch.
    The Democrats should feel worried.

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    Re: Live Thread for the SC Democratic Presidential Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Senators make lousy Presidents. Other than James Monroe and John Quincy Adams the cavalcade of awful going from Senate to WH is pretty alarming. Kennedy is the modern exception. But Kennedy was not really a Democrat. Kennedy was a Kennedy. They were/are a political entity unto themselves. The Senate was never more than a springboard for John Kennedy. If Senators have a stint in government administration they have a shot at being a decent President. Generally speaking they are a fail if they go straight from Senate to WH.
    Kennedy was a Democrat. Really a Democrat.

    So much disinformation.

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