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Two years ago Trump fired America's entire pandemic response team

TU Curmudgeon said:
Fire departments spend less than 5% of their time actually fighting fires, so, if I accept your position, that means that fire departments should all be disbanded as being "economically unproductive".
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Yes, they train and prepare.

What did the pandemic task force do?
 
Helix said:
Punkinhead can solve coronavirus pandemics by himself better than anyone, believe me. I can't reveal the genius plan, but I can tell you that it involves a lot of raking.
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I see he's got a presser set up for today. I'm curious if he'll be sharing another stable genius sharpie drawing? Maybe something complete with a fire breathing monster that gobbles up the virus.

Honestly though, how can we trust anything coming from this man and his administration? He's going to lash out at anyone who wants to offer a harsh warning on what could lie ahead and their jobs are at risk because "you're not towing the Trump loyalty line" cya!!

His bs last year with the sharpie weather chart was an example of his insane control issues and that he expects everyone around him to lie when he screws up, or they can expect a knock on the door.

As I said yesterday, Trump is the guy telling everyone that man eating shark is nothing to worry about.
 
Lord of Planar said:
How would a pandemic response team help?

They didn't do anything buy collect a paycheck when they were a team. They did no preparation.

So please tell the class...

What would be better with them active? Isn't the CDC doing a good enough job?
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Know when the team Trump disbanded was formed and why?
 
Lord of Planar said:
How would a pandemic response team help?

They didn't do anything buy collect a paycheck when they were a team. They did no preparation.

So please tell the class...

What would be better with them active? Isn't the CDC doing a good enough job?
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The fact you don't understand what the team does and that you think they are paid to do nothing is part of the problem. It's like saying "Why do we have a standing Army and Navy? We haven't had a world war since 1945. We're just paying a lot of people to sit around and do nothing." The Pandemic Response Team is a structure which, in times of crisis has a set chain of command and funding to act (respond). Trump destroyed that structure as noted below. Now, like disbanding our Army after a war, we have to rebuild it. That, of course, delays our ability to respond in a timely manner and, therefore, will unnecessarily cost American lives. This is all on Trump's head as CiC and POTUS.

Trump Has Sabotaged America's Response to the Coronavirus Pandemic
For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it isIf the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark.

Update: Public Health Response to the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Outbreak — United States, February 24, 2020 | MMWR


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pdf/professionals/hhspandemicinfluenzaplan.pdf
An influenza pandemic will place extraordinary and sustained demands on public health and healthcare
systems and on providers of essential community services across the U.S. and throughout the world. The nature
and scope of these demands will vary over the course of the pandemic. Table 2 lists key pandemic response
actions that public health, medical, and other government authorities at all levels must be prepared to take to
mitigate the potentially catastrophic consequences of a pandemic. A more detailed list of HHS-specific
response actions categorized by WHO pandemic phase is shown in Tables 4 through 9.
Pandemic influenza preparedness is a process, not an isolated event. To most effectively implement key
pandemic response actions, specific capabilities must be developed through preparedness activities
implemented before the pandemic occurs. For each key pandemic response activity, Table 2 summarizes
capabilities needed for implementation of an effective response.

WHO | Pandemic preparedness
WHO | Essential steps for developing or updating a national pandemic influenza preparedness plan
This document focuses on the processes of national pandemic influenza preparedness planning. The aim is to ensure that, when countries develop or update a plan, the objectives are clear and the essential steps and actions are taken. It should be used in conjunction with the checklist – A checklist for pandemic influenza risk and impact management: building capacity for pandemic response published in January 2018 and its applications, which focuses on the capacities to ensure that countries take into account all the essential capacities for pandemic response in the pandemic influenza preparedness planning.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The fact you don't understand what the team does and that you think they are paid to do nothing is part of the problem.
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'I love the uneducated." - Trump
 
SkyFox76 said:
I see he's got a presser set up for today. I'm curious if he'll be sharing another stable genius sharpie drawing? Maybe something complete with a fire breathing monster that gobbles up the virus.

Honestly though, how can we trust anything coming from this man and his administration? He's going to lash out at anyone who wants to offer a harsh warning on what could lie ahead and their jobs are at risk because "you're not towing the Trump loyalty line" cya!!

His bs last year with the sharpie weather chart was an example of his insane control issues and that he expects everyone around him to lie when he screws up, or they can expect a knock on the door.

As I said yesterday, Trump is the guy telling everyone that man eating shark is nothing to worry about.
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He's probably going to word salad and blame the media, as usual.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Two years ago there was no so-called "pandemic" and so it only made good economic sense to reduce the number of unnecessary government employees by allowing the unneeded ones to return to private enterprise positions where they would actually have to be productive in order to continue to receive their paycheques.

So far only a measly 0.0010% of the world's population has been affected by the so-called "pandemic" and that is a number that is so far below being statistically significant that it doesn't even qualify as "noise" in the data.

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So, this is tongue-in-cheek sarcasm?
 
jimbo said:
Not my job. That's why Presidents get hired.
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As a matter of principle you try to take every president at their word about all of their decisions?
Of is it more of somethings which is particular to this individual instance?

fwiw,
If you tried, you could probably come up with some stronger support for your argument.
"Trump did it, so it's right," is pitiable, hobbled, little argument.
 
cabse5 said:
Any other indications than this that the WH ignored the CDC's advice?
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You asked for an example of the White House explicitly ignoring the advice of the CDC and I provided it.
 
cabse5 said:
Any other indications than this that the WH ignored the CDC's advice?
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Why do you care? Why do you doubt it? You've always accepted that Trump knows more than our military and intelligence services, so why not accept he's a stable genius who knows more than the CDC? Isn't that why you supported the cutting of the CDC and NIH budgets? Eliminating the Pandemic Response Team? Don't tell me you are now doubting the wisdom and veracity of Dear Leader!!! You could be thrown out of the Party of Trump for such thinking!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No worries. The Supreme Leader says the Coronavirus will die out by Spring. If it doesn't, then it must be the work of the Democrats!
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Well, how long until a typical cold virus dies out?
 
Helix said:
Punkinhead can solve coronavirus pandemics by himself better than anyone, believe me. I can't reveal the genius plan, but I can tell you that it involves a lot of raking.
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Funny and Agree. Trump claimed to be smarter than the Generals, smarter than the intelligence agencies, thus he must be smarter than the head of the CDC and WHO. With his ego he could cure death before putting on the first green (in his opinion).
 
cabse5 said:
Who have replaced this pandemic response chain of command?...Mebe the CDC, for example??
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The CDC and Prevention has existed since 01 July 1946. They do not implement or carry out public health policy.
 
Wry Catcher said:
Funny and Agree. Trump claimed to be smarter than the Generals, smarter than the intelligence agencies, thus he must be smarter than the head of the CDC and WHO. With his ego he could cure death before putting on the first green (in his opinion).
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And the fake news media wouldn't even give him fair covfefe if he did.
 
Lisa said:
The CDC and Prevention has existed since 01 July 1946. They do not implement or carry out public health policy.
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Is there any doubt that Trump will try to blame any repercussions on his enemies? Donnie is our nation's most cowardly and incompetent President.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Well, how long until a typical cold virus dies out?
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I give up, how long?

Since you seem to be claiming this is no worse than a cold virus then you will have no problem with a nutjob Lefty catching the Coronavirus and shaking the hand of every Republican they can find...especially those who will meet the President. No worse than a cold, amirite?
 
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