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Three (of the more than three) ways trump can try to steal the election

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1. Republicans can still change the state rules to assign delegates by Congressional districts, which applies the thumb on the scale from Gerrymandering to the presidential election. To give an idea how powerful that would be, they've won big House majorities while losing the vote by millions, and in 2012, Obama's 5 million vote victory would have lost the election.

2. Republican legislators have the power to simply vote to require the delegates to vote for trump, no matter who the voters selected. They began to try this in 2000 in Florida, in case Gore won the recount (which he would have, but it was blocked).

3. Pence reported could refuse to certify the results, which would put the election into the House to decide - which sounds good since it's controlled by Democrats, but it would be where each state gets one vote, and a majority of states are Republican in the House, so it would go to trump.

There are apparently all real, plausible semi-legal ways trump could steal the election. #2 and #3 are courtesy of Thom Hartmann.

Of course, trump is law abiding and would never abuse power this way, right?
 
Wrong!

Trump will win the 2020 election because for the last 3 years the democrats have stood for nothing but Trump HATE!
They have nothing to run on but the whacked out resistance movement that started with in days of Trump winning in 2016.

So now they are back to the stealing the election crap...... :lamo:screwy
 
Craig234 said:
1. Republicans can still change the state rules to assign delegates by Congressional districts, which applies the thumb on the scale from Gerrymandering to the presidential election. To give an idea how powerful that would be, they've won big House majorities while losing the vote by millions, and in 2012, Obama's 5 million vote victory would have lost the election.
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What states are in the process of doing this? In what states would it require a change in the state constitution as opposed to a legislative vote? In what states would the requirement be that any changes would be effective in 2024 as opposed to 2020?

2. Republican legislators have the power to simply vote to require the delegates to vote for trump, no matter who the voters selected. They began to try this in 2000 in Florida, in case Gore won the recount (which he would have, but it was blocked).
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As above.
As an aside, after the SCOTUS stopped the Florida courts from violating the Constitution, various news agencies counted the ballots.
Bush won in Florida.

3. Pence reported could refuse to certify the results, which would put the election into the House to decide - which sounds good since it's controlled by Democrats, but it would be where each state gets one vote, and a majority of states are Republican in the House, so it would go to trump.
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The vice president counts and announces the votes before a joint session of Congress. The person who receives more than half of the electoral votes, is elected president. No vice president is required to certify the results.
Should nobody receive a majority of the electoral vote, the election is thrown to the House where the vote is by state. However, I do not know if states themselves have rules on how that is to be handled-- simple majority, ect

You usually start off a thread much better than this.
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Craig234 said:
1. Republicans can still change the state rules to assign delegates by Congressional districts, which applies the thumb on the scale from Gerrymandering to the presidential election. To give an idea how powerful that would be, they've won big House majorities while losing the vote by millions, and in 2012, Obama's 5 million vote victory would have lost the election.

2. Republican legislators have the power to simply vote to require the delegates to vote for trump, no matter who the voters selected. They began to try this in 2000 in Florida, in case Gore won the recount (which he would have, but it was blocked).

3. Pence reported could refuse to certify the results, which would put the election into the House to decide - which sounds good since it's controlled by Democrats, but it would be where each state gets one vote, and a majority of states are Republican in the House, so it would go to trump.

There are apparently all real, plausible semi-legal ways trump could steal the election. #2 and #3 are courtesy of Thom Hartmann.

Of course, trump is law abiding and would never abuse power this way, right?
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Aren't you starting this narrative a little early?

I mean his opponent hasn't even been chosen yet.
 
Mason66 said:
Aren't you starting this narrative a little early?

I mean his opponent hasn't even been chosen yet.
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No.

The Republicans' and trump's behavior is clear; the opponent is irrelevant.
 
Not much interest in the threats how the election could be stolen. OK then.
 
Craig234 said:
1. Republicans can still change the state rules to assign delegates by Congressional districts, which applies the thumb on the scale from Gerrymandering to the presidential election. To give an idea how powerful that would be, they've won big House majorities while losing the vote by millions, and in 2012, Obama's 5 million vote victory would have lost the election.
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Lets get this nonsense out of the way. First none of those have happened. So this argument is moot.

2. Republican legislators have the power to simply vote to require the delegates to vote for trump, no matter who the voters selected. They began to try this in 2000 in Florida, in case Gore won the recount (which he would have, but it was blocked).
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Wrong again. Per the last court ruling electors are free right to vote for whoever they want. The 10 circuit appeals court ruled as other courts have ruled
that electors 1. cannot be punished or removed for being faithless 2. cannot be penalized. it is going to the Supreme court of the US.
So no state can order their electors to vote for a specific person it is unconstitutional. Electors for years have followed the will of the people.
Gore lost the recount 3 times. the SCOTUS put a stop to it because they were using very subjective standards across different counties to count votes.
they also stopped it because there was not a full recount issued and there should have been.

3. Pence reported could refuse to certify the results, which would put the election into the House to decide - which sounds good since it's controlled by Democrats, but it would be where each state gets one vote, and a majority of states are Republican in the House, so it would go to trump.
There are apparently all real, plausible semi-legal ways trump could steal the election. #2 and #3 are courtesy of Thom Hartmann.
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Listening to crack heads for legal advice and people evidently tripping on drugs is not a good way to get your political information.
hartmann needs to lay off the pills and go back to his tin foil hats.

Of course, trump is law abiding and would never abuse power this way, right?
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Trump has nothing to do with this. he has 0 power over how any of this works.
we have a conspiracy theory forum for a reason.
 
Craig234 said:
Not much interest in the threats how the election could be stolen. OK then.
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we have no interest in TDS conspiracy theories.
 
More leftist paranoid delusions.
 
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