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We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

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We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!
 
Geezuz, we need our Republic back. Its gotten to the point where I am sorry for the Trump apologists now, at least those that are actually US Citizens. The only way to "justify" being a Trump apologist now is to be an agent of a foreign adversary.
 
OMG... Panic!!!!!!!!!!
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!

Another soap box thread.

Dismissed. (see my sig)
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!

Perhaps the population wants more change. Perhaps they don't want to go down the post-modern-semi-socialist-semi-communist-anti-freedom path.
 
We just need a president who is sane and not a crook. An adult with integrity.
 
The most accurate thread title today
 
you need to come up with better hit lines. ones that are actually believable.
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!

We need stability--Vote for the REVOLUTION!!!!! probably won't work outside the DNC base.

Just a hunch.
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!

I think Sanders should "explain to people" how Medicare for All Works - ( as AN OPTIONS)

Under that Option... (he should modify his stand and message) ( EVERYONE has Medicare deductions from their paycheck until age 65, regardless of what age under 65 they elect the option of Medicare for All (who want it) CURRENTLY, even at age 65 people still have to pay for PART B, .. except under some of the Part C Plans.

1. Medicare for All - would be a Public Option, those who want it can and those who don't can choose another options

2. Under Medicare for All... (Year 1) lower the age to 55 to coverage option, as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 55 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

3. Under Medicare for All... (Year 2) lower the age to 45, as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 45 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

4. Under Medicare for All... (Year 3) lower the age to 35, as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 35 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

5. Under Medicare for All... (Year 4) lower the age to (any), as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 35 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

6. Children are covered under the plan their parents choose, and for that, the payroll deduction will have a small % increase for each child,

7. Lease the Public Option for those who want to keep what they have.

8. Those who want to Join the ACA Exchange can do so, the medical coverage expense under ACA will be the same as what Medicare Pays to Medical Providers, ACA will sell PART C type plans, (or they can be the designee for PART C).. this will ensure people have lower premiums and the cost for medical care to providers will work the same as it does under Medicare. Basically, ACA would mirror Medicare... People who have no job, would be covered under ACA original standards.
ACA will coordinate with HUD, to ensure any persons "not working" are enrolled in job training programs, and can utilize HUD benefits until they are skill trained and are placed in a job positions.

Disabled will still be covered under Medicare and Medicaid.

This will free up funds used for other programs to be used for "Job Skill Development"..
So, people fit into the category (1-4) of being:

1. Children Under 18,
2. 18-55 enrolled in Job Skill Training,
3. Working,
4. Past Age 65 or Disabled.

This covers our General Society with Categorical Coverage

That's Three Options for General Public Medical Coverage...

We don't need 50 ideas... we need basically 3, that give the options for people to choose.


As to Education:

STEP ONE.

1. RETURN "COMMUNITY COLLEGES" back to the Low Cost format they were BEFORE "RONALD REAGAN SCREWED IT UP".

2. (Year 2) RETURN "STATE UNIVERSITIES" back to the Low Cost format they were BEFORE "RONALD REAGAN SCREWED IT UP".


Economy:

1. Return to the Principles of Why the Stock Market was created, and...

2. Return to "QUARTERLY REPORTING" based on "ACTUAL PRODUCTION AND ACTUAL SALES".... and control the madness of the system built upon speculation.

3. Stop Companies from using "Extreme Debt" to overtake other companies. Make it Law, that NO COMPANY can Finance more than 25% of the cost of taking over another company, and if a company they seek to take over has existing debt, that debt must be paid by the company seeking to buy the company with the debt.

4. We won't have companies that are "over leveraged"!!!!

5. Eliminate Stock Options for Executives, Any Stock Options Cost Reduction must be provide to ALL employees on a equal cost basis.

6. Executive Bonus, 'cannot exceed the "yearly salary of the lowest paid employee", and Executive cannot get more than one bonus a year.

7. Cap Executive Compensation of any PUBLIC TRADED COMPANY, to be nor more than 100 times the lowest employee's hourly wage.
 
I think Sanders should "explain to people" how Medicare for All Works - ( as AN OPTIONS)

Under that Option... (he should modify his stand and message) ( EVERYONE has Medicare deductions from their paycheck until age 65, regardless of what age under 65 they elect the option of Medicare for All (who want it) CURRENTLY, even at age 65 people still have to pay for PART B, .. except under some of the Part C Plans.

1. Medicare for All - would be a Public Option, those who want it can and those who don't can choose another options

2. Under Medicare for All... (Year 1) lower the age to 55 to coverage option, as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 55 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

3. Under Medicare for All... (Year 2) lower the age to 45, as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 45 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

4. Under Medicare for All... (Year 3) lower the age to 35, as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 35 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

5. Under Medicare for All... (Year 4) lower the age to (any), as he said in the first year, BUT, those who are 35 must still have their payroll deduction for medicare deduced.

6. Children are covered under the plan their parents choose, and for that, the payroll deduction will have a small % increase for each child,

7. Lease the Public Option for those who want to keep what they have.

8. Those who want to Join the ACA Exchange can do so, the medical coverage expense under ACA will be the same as what Medicare Pays to Medical Providers, ACA will sell PART C type plans, (or they can be the designee for PART C).. this will ensure people have lower premiums and the cost for medical care to providers will work the same as it does under Medicare. Basically, ACA would mirror Medicare... People who have no job, would be covered under ACA original standards.
ACA will coordinate with HUD, to ensure any persons "not working" are enrolled in job training programs, and can utilize HUD benefits until they are skill trained and are placed in a job positions.

Disabled will still be covered under Medicare and Medicaid.

This will free up funds used for other programs to be used for "Job Skill Development"..
So, people fit into the category (1-4) of being:

1. Children Under 18,
2. 18-55 enrolled in Job Skill Training,
3. Working,
4. Past Age 65 or Disabled.

This covers our General Society with Categorical Coverage

That's Three Options for General Public Medical Coverage...

We don't need 50 ideas... we need basically 3, that give the options for people to choose.


As to Education:

STEP ONE.

1. RETURN "COMMUNITY COLLEGES" back to the Low Cost format they were BEFORE "RONALD REAGAN SCREWED IT UP".

2. (Year 2) RETURN "STATE UNIVERSITIES" back to the Low Cost format they were BEFORE "RONALD REAGAN SCREWED IT UP".


Economy:

1. Return to the Principles of Why the Stock Market was created, and...

2. Return to "QUARTERLY REPORTING" based on "ACTUAL PRODUCTION AND ACTUAL SALES".... and control the madness of the system built upon speculation.

3. Stop Companies from using "Extreme Debt" to overtake other companies. Make it Law, that NO COMPANY can Finance more than 25% of the cost of taking over another company, and if a company they seek to take over has existing debt, that debt must be paid by the company seeking to buy the company with the debt.

4. We won't have companies that are "over leveraged"!!!!

5. Eliminate Stock Options for Executives, Any Stock Options Cost Reduction must be provide to ALL employees on a equal cost basis.

6. Executive Bonus, 'cannot exceed the "yearly salary of the lowest paid employee", and Executive cannot get more than one bonus a year.

7. Cap Executive Compensation of any PUBLIC TRADED COMPANY, to be nor more than 100 times the lowest employee's hourly wage.

That load of BS is not at all what Sanders has proposed under S. 1129, yet may be what you have "deduced" instead.

Text - S.1129 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Medicare for All Act of 2019 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
 
Most of the commentators come slinging slap stick ... they'd don't think well enough to propose an idea... they get off on ... silly attack comments... that's the type of ignorance we are dealing with in America.

It's a bunch of old people, who come to web sites to get their "belligerent idiocy comment fix for the moment"... they have no constructive plan of idea about anything, and these comments continue to demonstrate that.. all they have is some "cult devotion to right wing republican confederacy where the plutocrats tell them what to say, because they certainly don't give them any details of plans or ideals. they just tell them, "we have a plan"... and to date.. that plan has NOT been put in detail or explain to any of them... they only plan they get told is to "Attack Anything that is Not Republican". Sadly, keeping people this ignorant is a sure way to keep them contained, and then follow that up with gerrymandering them into cage like "ethnicity based" segregations... and they are dumb enough to claim they are free. When they can't even embrace the principle of what is America... which is to be a "FREE THINKING PEOPLE'...

Limbaugh, FOX and Right Wing Media is incessantly feeding them what to say, like they are trained parakeets .. and they run out with bluster, saying stuff they know nothing about, and have no skill set to research to find the truth of facts.

So... they come to web forms with their "one liner" idiocy... and that's their daily drama fix... and the walk away more insidious by the moment... still being led like sheep.

This is the level of ignorance that gave America the vile of Slavery, The atrocious stupidity of Segregation, and the Hoodwinking of using the word Conservative... which means nothing but try and repeat the past and conserve the process of trying to repeat the past.

It's pure sickening.. in this 21st Century that such levels of collective ignorance still is damaging America and the Greatness of what the Declaration of Independent was fought for to Establish of American Democracy... to be based on "Equality For ALL"... where "every human being is "equality"... and One Person, One Vote.
 
That load of BS is not at all what Sanders has proposed under S. 1129, yet may be what you have "deduced" instead.

Text - S.1129 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Medicare for All Act of 2019 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Learn to read, this is what was said:

I said:
Under that Option... (he should modify his stand and message) 1. Medicare for All - would be a Public Option, those who want it can and those who don't can choose another options


If you want to read something different into it, that's on you.... I did not say ... I quoted Sander Plan... I proposed "IDEAS".... IF you don't like them, then post your own.
 
Learn to read, this is what was said:

I said:
Under that Option... (he should modify his stand and message) 1. Medicare for All - would be a Public Option, those who want it can and those who don't can choose another options


If you want to read something different into it, that's on you.... I did not say ... I quoted Sander Plan... I proposed "IDEAS".... IF you don't like them, then post your own.

Whoops....we must have been posting at the same time.
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!

We do need some stability, and a good dose of adult behavior as well. That also won't happen under Trump, though I don't think that we'd get that under Sanders either. I mean, I'd expect Sanders to at least behave himself a lot better than Trump, but his policies would be rather disruptive.
 
Learn to read, this is what was said:

I said:
Under that Option... (he should modify his stand and message) 1. Medicare for All - would be a Public Option, those who want it can and those who don't can choose another options


If you want to read something different into it, that's on you.... I did not say ... I quoted Sander Plan... I proposed "IDEAS".... IF you don't like them, then post your own.

I know exactly what you did - pretended (deduced?) that Sanders has (or should have) some other "optional" plan in mind and that he was just kidding about having an M4A mandate as described in his actual Senate bill and campaign speeches.
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!

Nobody qualified wants to be associated with the prick. Anyone with more smarts than Trump (pretty much everyone), gets fired.
 
Perhaps the population wants more change. Perhaps they don't want to go down the post-modern-semi-socialist-semi-communist-anti-freedom path.

Which 'path' is that, and who is advocating this alleged "semi-communist anti-freedom" nonsense you are alleging? Details please.
 
I think the posted keyed that Bernie should "modify his stand and his position"

Yep, and if a frog had wings then it would enjoy softer landings. Of course, that is not a feature of an actual frog only a suggested improvement to a frog. ;)
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!

I can't stress enough how the sensationalistic approach to issues harms the message. I don't think the idea that the country is going to some how end if candidate A is elected/re-elected resonates with the broader public; maybe it's fine for the die-hard supporters, but that's about it. The Democratic Party will have to deal with the fact their party is divided and so far there really isn't anyone who serves as a "unifier". Warren is trying to fill that role, but I don't see that happening given her recent performances. I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect we're into another round of the Democratic Party trying to scuttle the front runner because they have no one else who can motivate their moderate base the same way Sanders is doing.
 
I know exactly what you did - pretended (deduced?) that Sanders has (or should have) some other "optional" plan in mind and that he was just kidding about having an M4A mandate as described in his actual Senate bill and campaign speeches.

Think what you want... if you don't have an idea of your own... why are you even talking?
 
We need STABILITY in our Governance, it won't happen until Trump is gone..!!!

He cannot fill position with qualified people, and the musical chairs game has gotten old and the song and dance around the seats has been and continues to be a disaster for the nation and its people, its a disaster for our global relations.

He has done nothing but increase the gap the wealthy have over the working poor.

I think the DNC should call a meeting with All Candidates and help them merge their policy idea's into a cohesion that can be conveyed to the people... as a "unified message" of policy, programs and methods and means that will be pursued. This will help in Senate Races and House Races to get a program that will work for America and we can get forward traction as a nation.

It is not going to happen under Republicanism!!!


The Bernie presidency will be the same as the Trump presidency. Bernie will get none of his programs passed except for raising taxes and only that because democrats want to raise taxes.

Bernie will be like Trump, sitting in the oval office twiddling his thumbs all day.
 
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