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Bernie Sanders' 1972 Violent Rape Fantasy Article Surfaces

tacomancer said:
There is a huge difference between assaulting someone or joking about it (i.e. grabbing by the *****) and discussion of a sexual fantasy that someone may have.

That difference is called consent.
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When you are joking about something that never really happened consent doesn't come into the picture.
 
tacomancer said:
Missing the point. Trump bragged about sexual assault.
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So? He was bragging to a friend about things that never happened and it was not meant to be aired on the six o'clock news. It was a private conversation. He didn't write an article about it.
 
Moderate Right said:
So? He was bragging to a friend about things that never happened and it was not meant to be aired on the six o'clock news. It was a private conversation.
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Perhaps they never happened, but him bragging is still a major issue
 
Moderate Right said:
When you are joking about something that never really happened consent doesn't come into the picture.
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Still missing the point, this is not something you joke about.
 
tacomancer said:
Still missing the point, this is not something you joke about.
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I hear Bernie was originally planning to write about a group of mimes.

They did unspeakable things to someone.

:doh
 
Moderate Right said:
You are comparing apples to car tires. The point is, Bernie does something like this and the left accepts it and explains it off but refuses to let Trump or the right explain things off on their side, such as Trump was just bragging to a buddy about things that never actually happened. Funny how you guys say that everything coming out of Trump's mouth is a lie unless it is to your political advantage and then all of a sudden Trump isn't lying anymore.
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So, you don't have a tape of Sanders bragging about sexual assault. I do have audio of Anus P. McPuckerface bragging about it. Game over.
 
3leftsdoo said:
I hear Bernie was originally planning to write about a group of mimes.

They did unspeakable things to someone.

:doh
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Ok, that was funny!
 
tacomancer said:
I am not following you. How does an article about sexual expression have anything to do with Trump?
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Wouldnt that question have best been asked to the writer of the 2nd comment in this thread? or the 4th? Or the 6th?
 
VanceMack said:
Wouldnt that question have best been asked to the writer of the 2nd comment in this thread? or the 4th? Or the 6th?
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They are free to ask me if they want, but ModerateRight addressed me specifically.
 
tacomancer said:
There is a huge difference between assaulting someone or joking about it (i.e. grabbing by the *****) and discussion of a sexual fantasy that someone may have.

That difference is called consent.
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You seriously dont know that the "grab them by the *****" comment was ALL ABOUT women that consented to that behavior? Come on now...really? After all this time...you SERIOUSLY dont know that?
 
VanceMack said:
You seriously dont know that the "grab them by the *****" comment was ALL ABOUT women that consented to that behavior? Come on now...really? After all this time...you SERIOUSLY dont know that?
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It must an interesting world you live in where you think that this bragging implied consent.
 
tacomancer said:
They are free to ask me if they want, but ModerateRight addressed me specifically.
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What was asked of you was in regard to 'explanations' of the two actions being discussed....you seem to be a sucker for the explanation of the one and have no knowledge of or interest in the explanation of the other. Perhaps that explains your continued misinformation...still...after all this time...regarding Trumps comment.
 
tacomancer said:
It must an interesting world you live in where you think that this bragging implied consent.
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You dont actually know what was said, do you? You literally dont have a clue what was actually said.

Amazing.
 
VanceMack said:
You dont actually know what was said, do you? You literally dont have a clue what was actually said.

Amazing.
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ahh, this tactic again. *sigh* ok

show me the consent in this statement.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.
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Here is the full context in case you need it: Full transcript: Donald Trump's lewd remarks about women on Days of Our Lives set in 2005 | The Independent
 
VanceMack said:
What was asked of you was in regard to 'explanations' of the two actions being discussed....you seem to be a sucker for the explanation of the one and have no knowledge of or interest in the explanation of the other. Perhaps that explains your continued misinformation...still...after all this time...regarding Trumps comment.
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uh huh, show me, in specifics, oh great teacher, where my logic is wrong.
 
tacomancer said:
ahh, this tactic again. *sigh* ok

show me the consent in this statement.



Here is the full context in case you need it: Full transcript: Donald Trump's lewd remarks about women on Days of Our Lives set in 2005 | The Independent
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:lamo

How embarrassing. You cant even be honest in your response. Why when discussing the "grab them by the *****" line did you not CITE the "grab them by the *****" line?

Wow...I figured it was just out of ignorance. But now...it looks more like your lie is deliberate.

That speaks VOLUMES of you.
 
tacomancer said:
uh huh, show me, in specifics, oh great teacher, where my logic is wrong.
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You already showed it...when you demonstrated your dishonesty.

How ****ing embarrassing. Sad to say...NOT shocking...but embarrassing nonetheless.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

How embarrassing. You cant even be honest in your response. Why when discussing the "grab them by the *****" line did you not CITE the "grab them by the *****" line?

Wow...I figured it was just out of ignorance. But now...it looks more like your lie is deliberate.

That speaks VOLUMES of you.
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VanceMack said:
You already showed it...when you demonstrated your dishonesty.

How ****ing embarrassing. Sad to say...NOT shocking...but embarrassing nonetheless.
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:lol: This is your best defense? To try and deflect when I clearly showed him bragging about sexual assult (thus providing for my claim).

I wonder what tomorrow's "you don't know what you are talking about" attempt you will make on me will be.
 
tacomancer said:
So BDSM is an invention of communism now? Of course it isn't.

He was talking about gender norms.

The Bernie Sanders 'Rape Fantasy' Essay, Explained : It's All Politics : NPR
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I think that this sums it up nicely:

Campaign spokesman Michael Briggs called the essay a "dumb attempt at dark satire in an alternative publication" in an interview with CNN, adding that it "in no way reflects his views or record on women." He added, "It was intended to attack gender stereotypes of the '70s, but it looks as stupid today as it was then."
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It was some ham-fisted attempt to comment on gender stereotypes that looks really bad through 2020 optics.

The claim by the OP that this is "rape fantasy" is nothing more than a dishonest and inaccurate portrayal for the ignorance of partisans.
 
tacomancer said:
:lol: This is your best defense? To try and deflect when I clearly showed him bragging about sexual assult (thus providing for my claim).

I wonder what tomorrow's "you don't know what you are talking about" attempt you will make on me will be.
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If you mean my 'best defense' is pointing out your deliberate dishonesty and lie, I would say...sure. And its a helluva defense.

It turns out you DID know...and you lied bout it. See...that was a little surprising. Im not sure why it surprised me but it did.
 
VanceMack said:
If you mean my 'best defense' is pointing out your deliberate dishonesty and lie, I would say...sure. And its a helluva defense.

It turns out you DID know...and you lied bout it. See...that was a little surprising. Im not sure why it surprised me but it did.
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I gave you the quote and the article to mount your defense, you didn't.
 
Ikari said:
I think that this sums it up nicely:



It was some ham-fisted attempt to comment on gender stereotypes that looks really bad through 2020 optics.

The claim by the OP that this is "rape fantasy" is nothing more than a dishonest and inaccurate portrayal for the ignorance of partisans.
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It wasn’t a Rape fantasy?

You know something we don’t? That it’s based on actual events?
 
americanwoman said:
Do you not think even "normal" people have fantasies like that? Why do you think internet porn is so available and popular? Yes, it's not exactly a mainstream thing but many, many people are freaks on the down low and as long as their fantasies are not hurting anyone and if they do happen everyone is consenting there is no issue.
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As for BDSM, the perfect safe would would be meatloaf, since 'I would do anything for love, but I won't do that'
 
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