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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Then even if they make more, its still going to suck because there is still not quite enough money to go around, leading back to my point.
    I can see the appeal to lower-income families already facing rising costs in rent, utilities, food, healthcare etc.

    According to a new survey, 70% of families are paying rates the government defines as unaffordable, and nearly half of families spend 15% or more of their household income on care.

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    After-School $244
    Child Care Center $213
    Family Care Center $199
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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is precisely why "job creators" favor the "safety net" system - why pay 100% of low wage workers more if you can pay a bit more in taxes and let the government pay (only a carefully selected) 12% to 15% of them more?
    Not sure I understand you. Where do you get those numbers from? And why would an employer need to pay 100% of workers more? I'm just talking about the ones with 2-3 (or more) kids.

    I remember a few years back there were some study that found people who worked at Walmart could not afford to shop at Walmart. Don't people have the right to shop where they work?
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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Having a choice between the candidate for a bigger federal government and the candidate for a huge federal government, both beholden to those supplying them campaign cash, is not a choice that I am willing to make.
    That's fine but it's still a wasted vote. Yes, it's your choice to waste it.

    Quote Originally Posted by eman623 View Post
    I remember a few years back there were some study that found people who worked at Walmart could not afford to shop at Walmart. Don't people have the right to shop where they work?
    People have the right to shop wherever they want. Whether they have a right to "AFFORD" something at a place of their work the answer is of course not. You think all Tesla employees can afford Teslas? How about all jewelry store employees?

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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    I wonder how many people out there are thinking to themselves...why in the Sam hell do I have to pay for "free" childcare when I don't have any children that need care?
    IDK man. Why do the American people have to shell out trillions of dollars to pay for wars that don't make us any safer or accomplish anything?
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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by eman623 View Post
    Not sure I understand you. Where do you get those numbers from? And why would an employer need to pay 100% of workers more? I'm just talking about the ones with 2-3 (or more) kids.

    I remember a few years back there were some study that found people who worked at Walmart could not afford to shop at Walmart. Don't people have the right to shop where they work?
    My point, which is not hard to understand, is that only a minority of "needy households" (about 12% to 15% of the population) get "safety net" assistance. Employees are paid based on their job duties (employment positions) not based on how many kids they have (or lack).

    Rest assured that most Walmart associates can and do shop at Walmart (and/or other lower priced stores) - it's not as if SNAP (or a meager paycheck) goes further by shopping at a (higher priced) convenience store.
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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    While I don't agree with Sander's methods, these are things that he does ponder and the questions that come up revolve around the issues he is most passionate about.
    Here’s a hint, or something to ponder. Doubling the tax burden for working Americans of all tax brackets and the doubling of the size of government spending over the next ten years isn’t going to give anyone a better quality of life other than for those that manage it.

    Combine that with the not ready for primetime Green-Deal implemented you could see your utility cost at least double and all goods relying on transit increase, that means everything you purchase.

    If you take the Sanders plans or even the liberal plans and work the numbers every working American takes a huge hit. Again, as stated in my original post in this thread as snark, Bernie knows that supplemented/free childcare will be necessary. I messed up part is it will probably cost more per family than what we have now with tax credits. Welcome to the free cake crew.

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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by woodsman View Post
    Posts like this are amusing but saddening to think it could be a legitimate opinion.

    It’s also notable that posts like this show up on BS threads, Bernie Sanders. It shows how clueless the free cake crew with Bernie voters are.
    Makes me sad, too. However, this plan would fully utilize the kid cages and make money for rich people.

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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    I am fine with free child care as long as the parent is employed.


    So an unemployed single mother who most needs the childcare doesn't get it. So much for what society is all about.

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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    IDK man. Why do the American people have to shell out trillions of dollars to pay for wars that don't make us any safer or accomplish anything?
    Right?

    I mean, DJT is getting us out of those things.

    MAGA 2032.

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    Re: Bernie offers voters "free" childcare

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Right?

    I mean, DJT is getting us out of those things.


    Oh wait- you're serious?
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