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Will Coronavirus affect Dow?

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I'm not afraid of this virus that much by itself. It's the lingering possible pandemic combined with a few other events, and stock valuation corrections.


U.S. stock futures pointed to sharp declines on Wall Street at the open on Monday as the number of coronavirus cases outside China surged, stoking fears of a prolonged global economic slowdown from the virus spreading.

As of 9:11 a.m. ET, Dow Jones Industrial Average futures were down 907 points, indicating a drop of 900 points at the open.

Monday’s moves came as investors watch developments surrounding the coronavirus outbreak that was first reported in China, but has spread rapidly in other countries especially South Korea and Italy, which reported a spike in the number of confirmed cases in recent days.

Buffett told CNBC’s Becky Quick on “Squawk Box.” “You look at car holdings —railcar holdings, moving goods around. And there again, that was affected by the tariffs too because people front-ended purchases, all kinds of things.” Buffett added he still recommends buying stocks.

Monday’s moves came as investors watch developments surrounding the coronavirus outbreak that was first reported in China, but has spread rapidly in other countries especially South Korea and Italy, which reported a spike in the number of confirmed cases in recent days.

“There remains a large degree of uncertainty surrounding the virus, and no one knows how this will ultimately play out,” said Keith Lerner, chief market strategist at Truist/SunTrust Advisory. “With stock prices and valuations still near cycle highs, the risk of a worsening virus outbreak has not been priced into the market to a great extent.”

Dow drops more than 900 points as coronavirus cases outside of China surge
 
I'm not afraid of this virus that much by itself. It's the lingering possible pandemic combined with a few other events, and stock valuation corrections.

Fear is contagious, as well.....
 
Impeach DJT. It's all his fault.
 
Since so much of our manufacturing comes from China, and because China is ground zero for this thing, it's going to make a mess in the short term. Once reports start coming in that infections are declining the economy will pick back up. If the rate of infection increases then we've got a zombie apocalypse and DOW performance won't be a top priority. Either way we're good...except for the zombie apocalypse part. That could be bad.
 
Fear is contagious, as well.....

Fear and confidence are the driving factors for the markets. So far, I believe confidence may have been too high for too long.
 
Fear and confidence are the driving factors for the markets. So far, I believe confidence may have been too high for too long.

Its temporary. Pandemics always end. We are long overdue for a bear market but I dont see this as the trigger
 
Since so much of our manufacturing comes from China, and because China is ground zero for this thing, it's going to make a mess in the short term. Once reports start coming in that infections are declining the economy will pick back up. If the rate of infection increases then we've got a zombie apocalypse and DOW performance won't be a top priority. Either way we're good...except for the zombie apocalypse part. That could be bad.

The disease is not that deadly yet unless it mutates. It's the shutting down of businesses and quarantining of whole cities and provinces that's causing the slow down in trade, production, and sales.
 
Its temporary. Pandemics always end. We are long overdue for a bear market but I dont see this as the trigger

It probably will be temporary but there's a possibility it will travel the world around several times as the Spanish Flu did. Or be seasonal.
 
It probably will be temporary but there's a possibility it will travel the world around several times as the Spanish Flu did. Or be seasonal.

I met with an immunologist last night. He is not worried. He says Sars was much worse.
 
The disease is not that deadly yet unless it mutates. It's the shutting down of businesses and quarantining of whole cities and provinces that's causing the slow down in trade, production, and sales.

Yep. That it's continuing to spread to other industrialized nations is going to spook the market, but to your earlier point about market confidence, it's all based on speculation on how it will impact business. China's taken some pretty large measures which impact its businesses, and I'm sure that's playing a part along with the spread to Europe and Japan.
 
Since so much of our manufacturing comes from China, and because China is ground zero for this thing, it's going to make a mess in the short term. Once reports start coming in that infections are declining the economy will pick back up. If the rate of infection increases then we've got a zombie apocalypse and DOW performance won't be a top priority. Either way we're good...except for the zombie apocalypse part. That could be bad.

Yep, better go buy more guns and stock up on lots of ammo. I have a link to a company building zombie-proof bunkers. Did you read 'The Stand'?
 
It probably will be temporary but there's a possibility it will travel the world around several times as the Spanish Flu did. Or be seasonal.

Yes, and Spanish Flu killed an estimated 80-100 million-and that was in the days before you could fly with your infection across the world in a matter of hours...nearly 250,000 died in Britain alone in 1918-19.
 
I met with an immunologist last night. He is not worried. He says Sars was much worse.

SARS killed 774 people and infected 8,098 between November 2002 and July 2003. The new disease, known as COVID-19, has killed nearly three times that many people in eight weeks. And infected 75,500.
 
SARS killed 774 people and infected 8,098 between November 2002 and July 2003. The new disease, known as COVID-19, has killed nearly three times that many people in eight weeks. And infected 75,500.

Ok. Panic. I am.not selling any stock
 
Yes, and Spanish Flu killed an estimated 80-100 million-and that was in the days before you could fly with your infection across the world in a matter of hours...nearly 250,000 died in Britain alone in 1918-19.

I'm not comparing it to the Spanish Flu, I'm more concerned about the reaction to it and the effect it has on the global economy. The Dow is currently down 790 pts today.
 
Yep, better go buy more guns and stock up on lots of ammo. I have a link to a company building zombie-proof bunkers. Did you read 'The Stand'?

The Stand? That was a long time ago and from what I recall, it was more about the Anti-Christ and didn't involve zombies. Then again, I think it involved a trip to Las Vegas so it's still all good.
 
Ok. Panic. I am.not selling any stock

Blue chips, historically, in the long run, are a safe bet still. It's these flash traders that use algorythms that will cause panic.
 
Blue chips, historically, in the long run, are a safe bet still. It's these flash traders that use algorythms that will cause panic.

And the stock market will take a hit. Maybe even 10%. But it wont last long
 
And the stock market will take a hit. Maybe even 10%. But it wont last long

It probably won't last long but nobody can foresee bubbles, like the housing collapse, until they burst. Some economists have been predicting a substantial correction for awhile due to excessive debt.
 
I'm not afraid of this virus that much by itself. It's the lingering possible pandemic combined with a few other events, and stock valuation corrections.

Bernie moves ahead and the Dow sinks.
 
The Stand? That was a long time ago and from what I recall, it was more about the Anti-Christ and didn't involve zombies. Then again, I think it involved a trip to Las Vegas so it's still all good.

No, no zombies! But it did involve a global pandemic. The book has now grown to 1400 (count 'em), pages. I managed to get about halfway through before boredom overtook.
 
It probably won't last long but nobody can foresee bubbles, like the housing collapse, until they burst. Some economists have been predicting a substantial correction for awhile due to excessive debt.

Yes, the 'boom-bust cycle' will inevitably kick in at some point, as it always does. Enjoy the sugar rush while it lasts...

Boom And Bust Cycle
 
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