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MSNBC anchors keep comparing Sanders' campaign and its supporters to Nazis

Hypothetical said:
after hearing a bunch of them talk about Sanders, i'm pretty sure most of the MSM would rather have Trump win and try their luck again in 2024 if Sanders takes the nom.
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The traditional party elders don't think Sanders can pull enough moderate Dems to win against Trump when that's a rapidly shrinking demographic. It's going to take an extreme progressive, who can lean towards the Independents when they win their Party Nomination and run for the Election.
 
Moderate Right said:
I avoid Fox and CNN altogether. It's a total waste of time trying to find the truth needle in their haystacks. I actually watch NBC nightly news because I believe them to be the least biased of the three major networks. They're still biased but they are the best of the worst. I read things from a bunch of sources but won't read anything that has a known bias. I watch Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace because he is about as close to the middle as you can get. He'll attack both sides.
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I do a similar thing by being selective about where I gather news. Fox and CNN still offer some decent, nonpolitical info on breaking stories but are both nuts with the party bias.
 
TheGoverness said:
MSNBC and CNN wear their bias on their sleeve.
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Have you really watched a few hours of the prime time Fox folks, vs MSNBC, CNN? Really sit through an hour, and tally up the generalized attacks on the entire "left", democrats, the insults, the lies, the conspiracy theory nonsense, the phony anger and outrage, the low quality guests, the guests like the diGenova/Toensing who were actively working to get Firtash out of extradition to the U.S., while lobbying for Trump on Fox.

Bias? TheGoverness, I humbly submit that bias is not even in question, it's all the of the other things Fox news entertainers, and others like Rush, etc., that differentiate themselves so far from MSNBC, that the notion that people would compare them, makes it looks like Trump's propaganda works. "Both sides!!". "Phony fake news media!" He said it enough, and apparently, people even on the other side, start to believe it.

If Fox news was "simply biased like MSNBC", the world would be a better place.
 
Lovebug said:
What is going on? Are they "campaigning" against Sanders?


MSNBC anchors compare Sanders supporters to Nazis - Business Insider
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Mainstream democrat estbalishment doesn't want Bernie. Bernie isn't even a democrat. He's a socialsit. He will not beat Trump. They only let him run as a democrat because if he runs as an indpendent the democrats have no chance to win in 2020 and Bernie will have no chance to win in 2020. You have a classic case of "enemy of my enemy is my friend" except now that it looks as if Bernie may win the nomination, they ain't so friendly.
 
Mach said:
Have you really watched a few hours of the prime time Fox folks, vs MSNBC, CNN? Really sit through an hour, and tally up the generalized attacks on the entire "left", democrats, the insults, the lies, the conspiracy theory nonsense, the phony anger and outrage, the low quality guests, the guests like the diGenova/Toensing who were actively working to get Firtash out of extradition to the U.S., while lobbying for Trump on Fox.

Bias? TheGoverness, I humbly submit that bias is not even in question, it's all the of the other things Fox news entertainers, and others like Rush, etc., that differentiate themselves so far from MSNBC, that the notion that people would compare them, makes it looks like Trump's propaganda works. "Both sides!!". "Phony fake news media!" He said it enough, and apparently, people even on the other side, start to believe it.

If Fox news was "simply biased like MSNBC", the world would be a better place.
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sorry, but actually, a lot of what CNN and MSNBC do is outright propaganda. that's the problem. It's not fox calling people nazis for OBVIOUS propaganda reasons. it is not fox news naysaying the party they share an affinity with's OWN leading candidate. 90% of what fox reports about the left is stated WITH sources and/or actual video.

well lets say Tucker Carlson, not fox, because that is the main person I watch.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Most if not all Nazi comparisons are ridiculous. Trump is a Nazi. Obama is a Nazi. Bernie is a Nazi. Blah-blah-blah.

It lessens the impact of the term by using it so flippantly, but that's how it is, I guess.
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To be fair, Matthews wasn't calling Sanders a nazi.
 
Hypothetical said:
sorry, but actually, a lot of what CNN and MSNBC do is outright propaganda. that's the problem. It's not fox calling people nazis for OBVIOUS propaganda reasons. it is not fox news naysaying the party they share an affinity with's OWN leading candidate. 90% of what fox reports about the left is stated WITH sources and/or actual video.
well lets say Tucker Carlson, not fox, because that is the main person I watch.
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You're doing what am debating against. That you watch Tucker, and defend him, I understand that, it's just not reasonable to me, based on reality.

Take any word:
propaganda
lies
bias

Claiming "both sides" are guilty of these, is the problem.

It's 90 degrees outside, and you're outside with only shorts on.
A. The temperature drops to 89 degrees.
B. The temperatures drops to -40 degrees.

The temperature dropped in both cases, they are roughly equal. It's slick, and absurd.
 
Russia...Nazi...fascist...you kind of have to wonder if the media message says more about those sending the message or who they know the message is intended for.
 
Mach said:
You're doing what am debating against. That you watch Tucker, and defend him, I understand that, it's just not reasonable to me, based on reality.

Take any word:
propaganda
lies
bias

Claiming "both sides" are guilty of these, is the problem.

It's 90 degrees outside, and you're outside with only shorts on.
A. The temperature drops to 89 degrees.
B. The temperatures drops to -40 degrees.

The temperature dropped in both cases, they are roughly equal. It's slick, and absurd.
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well I am afraid I have exactly the opposite opinion about CNN and MSNBC.
 
VanceMack said:
Russia...Nazi...fascist...you kind of have to wonder if the media message says more about those sending the message or who they know the message is intended for.
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also how do they spout the EXACT Same buzzwords infallibly when they get on something? one says its a "constitutional crisis" there we go, EVERY MSM channel then races to state "constitutional crisis".

its like they're working together to hammer their propaganda into people's head or something...
 
Hypothetical said:
also how do they spout the EXACT Same buzzwords infallibly when they get on something? one says its a "constitutional crisis" there we go, EVERY MSM channel then races to state "constitutional crisis".

its like they're working together to hammer their propaganda into people's head or something...
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Its an old script...



No one can actually believe this isnt scripted and coordinated.
 
MSDNC will turn into a commercial for whoever wins the nomination, Sanders included, IMO. Matthews ****ed up pretty badly here, though.
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It's not just Matthews making WWII references.

Chuck Todd has pushed the narrative that Sanders supporters are "digital brown shirts".



Joy Reid invited a "body language expert" onto her show to explain why Sanders must be lying about a disagreement with Elizabeth Warren.



And then of course there is the classic of Matthews claiming Sanders wants to execute people like him in Central Park. :lamo





Now, what do these people have in common? They are all well paid, well connected figures in the Democratic establishment that benefit from maintaining the status quo where their taxes are low.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Mainstream democrat estbalishment doesn't want Bernie. Bernie isn't even a democrat. He's a socialsit. He will not beat Trump. They only let him run as a democrat because if he runs as an indpendent the democrats have no chance to win in 2020 and Bernie will have no chance to win in 2020. You have a classic case of "enemy of my enemy is my friend" except now that it looks as if Bernie may win the nomination, they ain't so friendly.
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Exactly!
This of course will come back to bite the DNC should forces like the leftist media,(MSNBC for example), gang up on Bernie and his base, calling them Nazis.
I do think there will be a brokered convention. Bernie will get cheated out of the nomination again. I can't see Bern's base voting for an establishment Democrat. They'll stay home before doing that. Trump will win in a landslide.
 
Hypothetical said:
sorry, but actually, a lot of what CNN and MSNBC do is outright propaganda. that's the problem. It's not fox calling people nazis for OBVIOUS propaganda reasons. it is not fox news naysaying the party they share an affinity with's OWN leading candidate. 90% of what fox reports about the left is stated WITH sources and/or actual video.

well lets say Tucker Carlson, not fox, because that is the main person I watch.
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I agree.
I find CNN and MSNBC full of bias and deceit.
If I had a nickel for every lie they've told about Trump, his family members, his campaign, his base....
 
Fox News is propaganda for the Republican Party.

Much of CNN, MSNBC, etc is propaganda for the corporate, MIC status quo.
 
TheGoverness said:
Most if not all Nazi comparisons are ridiculous. Trump is a Nazi. Obama is a Nazi. Bernie is a Nazi. Blah-blah-blah.

It lessens the impact of the term by using it so flippantly, but that's how it is, I guess.
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I guess the question should be WHY it's it done so often now? Nazi has been rendered just about useless because
everything is a Nazi! :doh
 
Common Sense 1 said:
I guess the question should be WHY it's it done so often now? Nazi has been rendered just about useless because
everything is a Nazi! :doh
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Argument of last resort. Enough gullible people fall for the nonsense.
Identify the guilty, and most of us will stand up against them.
 
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