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Latinos Love Bernie, And Not Just In Nevada

Risky Thicket said:
One more tax cut like your man Trump "gave" us the last time, continuing insurance and big pharma cost increases, the non-existent Trump Party healthcare plan, tariff wars, continued corporate welfare, three-plus more years of no (badly needed) infrastructure improvements and we are all going to need free things.
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You forget that there's no such thing as free things?
I'm not voting for a clown like Sanders who is going to raise taxes drastically on the middle class. You know all that free stuff he promises, like medicare for all?,... Sanders doesn't even know how much it's going to cost!
 
3leftsdoo said:
Bernie has a lot of black voter support, but SC is unclear.
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Polling has it Biden sanders Steyer but with delegate apportionment, Sanders isn't likely to pick up much with Biden #1 and Steyer a close third. One thing about Texas and NC is that as many as a third of voters say they still might change their minds before Super Tuesday so Bernie's narrow leads in both places is supersoft.
 
trixare4kids said:
You forget that there's no such thing as free things?
I'm not voting for a clown like Sanders who is going to raise taxes drastically on the middle class. You know all that free stuff he promises, like medicare for all?,... Sanders doesn't even know how much it's going to cost!
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So you much prefer the GOP/Trump Party healthcare plan?
 
3leftsdoo said:
For those wondering about Bernie's pivot from more sensible immigration policy to an open borders stance, his Nevada win today explains everything:

It's the Latino vote, beautiful.

A surprising microcosm of national voter demographics, the ever more Blue and diverse Silver State came out big for Bernie today.

And in more bad news for Bernie Bashers, Old Yeller ranks head & shoulders above any other Democrat in national polls tracking the Latino vote.

At this point, it's not looking good for Never Berners, but the party will see some healing if he's not cheated out of the nomination again, so shortsighted Sanders Slammers will be rewarded nonetheless if he's the nominee.

The general, of course, is a different story...
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At this point I think it looks like Bernie is headed to win the Democratic nomination. Next stop is in South Carolina and he is basically tied with Biden which was suppose to be the big win for Biden to spring him into Super Tuesday. Tonight Bernie was in Texas that is rich in delegates holding a nice size rally already working the Super Tuesday states.

I wonder if all those Democrats Biden, Buttigieg, Bloomer and Klobuchar were banking on are those Democrats that are voting for Trump? I say that because there's a good percentage of Democrats that are going to vote for Trump because their party went too far left.

And then there are the Independents....how many of them will be able to vote for Bernie in a National election? I just don't see it. I could be wrong but I believe this is why so many in the Democratic party are worried at this time.
 
trixare4kids said:
He's popular with young, impressionable Latinos, but not with older Latinos, many who view him as a guy with big ideas who can't get anything done.
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I view him like that, too. In all his years in Congress, what has he accomplished? He's just a dreamer and people are buying into his hype.
 
hermit said:
I view him like that, too. In all his years in Congress, what has he accomplished? He's just a dreamer and people are buying into his hype.
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People hear free and they really think it's gonna' be free. Hype is the perfect word for his brand of snake oil.
 
If Sanders wins the nomination, expect massive sums of money going into Republican congressional elections as a safeguard.
 
joko104 said:
If Sanders wins the nomination, expect massive sums of money going into Republican congressional elections as a safeguard.
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In that case, Americans who hate Republicans more than they like socialist ideas for their families should not support Bernie Sanders. They should be scared of Republicans getting money. Right?
 
Drawdown said:
Polling has it Biden sanders Steyer but with delegate apportionment, Sanders isn't likely to pick up much with Biden #1 and Steyer a close third. One thing about Texas and NC is that as many as a third of voters say they still might change their minds before Super Tuesday so Bernie's narrow leads in both places is supersoft.
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SC is a MUCH bigger deal for Bidenites than Berners; Bernie & his flock would be happy with a 2nd place finish, but if Joe doesn't win...
 
vesper said:
At this point I think it looks like Bernie is headed to win the Democratic nomination. Next stop is in South Carolina and he is basically tied with Biden which was suppose to be the big win for Biden to spring him into Super Tuesday. Tonight Bernie was in Texas that is rich in delegates holding a nice size rally already working the Super Tuesday states.

I wonder if all those Democrats Biden, Buttigieg, Bloomer and Klobuchar were banking on are those Democrats that are voting for Trump? I say that because there's a good percentage of Democrats that are going to vote for Trump because their party went too far left.

And then there are the Independents....how many of them will be able to vote for Bernie in a National election? I just don't see it. I could be wrong but I believe this is why so many in the Democratic party are worried at this time.
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Democrats are between a rock and a hard place & need to think about 2024.

Bernie really is the McGovern of 2020; he can't win the general, but the party has to go with him.
 
hermit said:
I view him like that, too. In all his years in Congress, what has he accomplished? He's just a dreamer and people are buying into his hype.
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A free invisible pony is better than no pony at all!

Less poop to muck too!

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joko104 said:
If Sanders wins the nomination, expect massive sums of money going into Republican congressional elections as a safeguard.
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It's a potential down-ticket issue for the House, but I think the Donks hold on.

The Sanders Slammers will make much of it, but National does not = Local.
 
Jean-s said:
Bernie Sanders respects people regardless of ethnicity. It is no surprise that he is popular among Latinos.
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Is this the same Senator Bernie who voted against increasing immigration quotas for non Europeans 4 times?
 
3leftsdoo said:
Democrats are between a rock and a hard place & need to think about 2024.

Bernie really is the McGovern of 2020; he can't win the general, but the party has to go with him.
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I think there is a lot of truth in your statement.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Who doesn't love free stuff? :thumbs:

He's already stumping in Texas & is looking unstoppable, having garnered surprising liberal support in The Big Sandy.

Florida may be less than friendly, but everywhere else?

Mi corazon = Belongs to Bernie
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The Miami Cuban expatriate culture endorses a man who shook hands with Fidel and Che. :lamo
 
trixare4kids said:
People are so stupid to believe Sander's shtick. Just look at his record. One of the worst do nothing records in congress.
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He got a post office renamed.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Is this the same Senator Bernie who voted against increasing immigration quotas for non Europeans 4 times?
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That was pre-2020 Bernie, comprende?
 
OldFatGuy said:
The Miami Cuban expatriate culture endorses a man who shook hands with Fidel and Che. :lamo
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Florida less than friendly IS an understatement, yes. :thumbs:
 
Risky Thicket said:
One more tax cut like your man Trump "gave" us the last time, continuing insurance and big pharma cost increases, the non-existent Trump Party healthcare plan, tariff wars, continued corporate welfare, three-plus more years of no (badly needed) infrastructure improvements and we are all going to need free things.
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So far this year, I've noticed all but two of my meds that I was taking last year at the same time of the year, have gone down by as much as 20%. One went up $2 for a 90 day supply, the other is now free. A custom tailor made med, that is now covered entirely by a grant from a shoe retailing company. I still have no idea why for the grant.

If anyone bothers to analyze infrastructure needs, more than 90% of needed infrastructure maintenance and reconstruction falls in the hands of the individual states and multi-state authorities like the NY & NJ Port Authority, The Mississippi River Alliance, and so on. Almost every airport is privately owned, the exceptions are like Stewart Airport, a former US Air Force cite, now leased out to private operators. It's under reconstruction to alleviate overcrowding at Newark and JFK Airports. Amtrak, a quasi public agency is anyone's guess, but ridership keeps decreasing, and freight rail traffic over privately held rail right of ways, increasing. Flying is faster, less and less expensive, and far more convenient.

Ike organized the construction of the national highway system with bond issues, to be paid by tolls. Now construction costs for reconstruction are 30 times higher discounting inflation, both because of materials costs and labor regulations. No one wants the necessary higher tolls, and of course we can suspend the labor regulations if we once again import Chinese coolies.

I may want a few free things, but I don't need free things. I have a bad habit. I take pride in paying my own way. But then the gods have blessed with good joss.
 
OldFatGuy said:
So far this year, I've noticed all but two of my meds that I was taking last year at the same time of the year, have gone down by as much as 20%. One went up $2 for a 90 day supply, the other is now free. A custom tailor made med, that is now covered entirely by a grant from a shoe retailing company. I still have no idea why for the grant.

If anyone bothers to analyze infrastructure needs, more than 90% of needed infrastructure maintenance and reconstruction falls in the hands of the individual states and multi-state authorities like the NY & NJ Port Authority, The Mississippi River Alliance, and so on. Almost every airport is privately owned, the exceptions are like Stewart Airport, a former US Air Force cite, now leased out to private operators. It's under reconstruction to alleviate overcrowding at Newark and JFK Airports. Amtrak, a quasi public agency is anyone's guess, but ridership keeps decreasing, and freight rail traffic over privately held rail right of ways, increasing. Flying is faster, less and less expensive, and far more convenient.

Ike organized the construction of the national highway system with bond issues, to be paid by tolls. Now construction costs for reconstruction are 30 times higher discounting inflation, both because of materials costs and labor regulations. No one wants the necessary higher tolls, and of course we can suspend the labor regulations if we once again import Chinese coolies.

I may want a few free things, but I don't need free things. I have a bad habit. I take pride in paying my own way. But then the gods have blessed with good joss.
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Keep taking your medicine.
 
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