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Lara Trump shares QAnon video

NeverTrump said:
When people don't run for the hills from this insane conspiracy theory and profusely deny it, that means you at least in some part agree with the cult of Q's teachings.
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You still don't get why Lara Trump retweeted that particular YouTube vid, do you?
 
vesper said:
This is the second day in a row I have heard the term QAnon. It must not be something that the majority of us are aware of. I learned yesterday it is some right-winged group used by the left to be an insult. I thought about that today and what is considered right-wing today would include the ideology of President John Kennedy. Heck the ideology of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln, Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Paine, the list goes on today would be considered far right-wing according to the left today.
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Where did you "learn" that? Even Fox News has reported that QAnon, a far right wing conspiracy group is posting false cures for the coronavirus. I doubt any of the people you mention would have anything al all to do with QAnon, but Lara Trump does.
 
vesper said:
At Media Matters?, Daily Kos?, Slate?, HufoPufo? The Democratic Underground? The Village Voice? New Yorker? It may well have been. I don't normally read those publications. QAnon has not come up in many places I get my news.
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Hard to believe. Even Fox has covered them.
 
Condor060 said:
We are talking about 2020. Not 2016. In 2020, TODAY, U.S. officials have told Sanders that Russia is attempting to help his presidential campaign as part of an effort to interfere with the election. Not Trump.
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U.S. Officials have told Sanders and Trump that Russia is interfering.

Russia most likely interfering with Sanders to help Trump. Follow the dots.
 
Old 'N Chill said:
Isn't she just a Trump by marriage, maybe that's why she's least offensive? She's still offensive to me, I've heard her on Christian conservative talk radio numerous times, another nutter like junior.
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Who else are they going to send to Christian Radio? Jared or Ivanka? Melania? Maybe Jr. with his new girlfriend?
 
JMR said:
Where did you "learn" that? Even Fox News has reported that QAnon, a far right wing conspiracy group is posting false cures for the coronavirus. I doubt any of the people you mention would have anything al all to do with QAnon, but Lara Trump does.
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Please provide a link.
 
vesper said:
Please provide a link.
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What is QAnon, the conspiracy theory group showing up to Trump rallies? | Fox News

There are several conspiracy theories this group has latched on to, especially the belief there is a network of people, including in the U.S. government, that wants to take down Trump and his administration, according to The New York Times.

With the outbreak of the Coronavirus, QAnon followers have begun to spread false "treatments" for the virus. Furthermore, the group have accused liberal billionaire George Soros of rigging the Iowa Democratic caucuses following its flawed outcome.

A previous theory, according to NPR, held that Special Counsel Robert Mueller was not actually investigating allegations of Russian interference and collusion in the 2016 election. Rather, the former FBI director looked into prominent Democrats — including former President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, Trump’s 2016 opponent — and their relationship with Russia or potential connections to a massive (unsubstantiated) pedophile ring.

Another belief is the military asked Trump to run for president in order to deal with the nefarious group of people in government, according to NPR.

The group also has its own lingo. Aside from calling the leader simply "Q," they refer to those who attempt to debunk the group and its theories as “clowns,” and those who follow along as “bakers."
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JMR said:
What is even more amazing is that Sanders has repudiated any aid from Russia, in contrast to Trump who sees nothing wrong with their help.
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Trump never said that.
 
NeverTrump said:
You can share videos from non-insane people that support Trump right??? Oh wait...
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You didn't even bother to watch the video, the subject of your thread, did you?
 
trixare4kids said:
You didn't even bother to watch the video, the subject of your thread, did you?
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It's clear what it is. I don't watch or need to watch political propaganda to determine what it is, even from candidates I like.
 
NeverTrump said:
It's clear what it is. I don't watch or need to watch political propaganda to determine what it is, even from candidates I like.
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So you admit that you prefer to stay misinformed on the subject matter of your thread, the video.

:wow:
 
trixare4kids said:
Why would I bother to debunk George Soros's funded Mutterings?

Pretty clear the author of your Trump family hit piece didn't bother to watch the rather benign pro-America You Tube video.
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She's promoting a QAnon conspiracy nutjob. She's got roughly 800k followers and just sent at least 10s of thousands of them to this idiot's YouTube account that's almost exclusively pushing Q bull****.

As an equivalent, much of what Klukker David Duke says online isn't overtly racist or anti-Semitic, but the President's family promoting his videos and social media would be just as problematic. This seems obvious.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
You started a thread about a video which you have never seen simply to bash Trump. What you called it (aka described it as) makes no difference because you have never seen it. I know what this thread "actually is" because I read your OP. You found a link that bashed Trump and proceeded to share it.
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IMO, a member of Trump's family shouldn't be promoting the YouTube account of a prominent Q promoter. I looked and there's plenty of sources for it, and Lara Trump happened to pick the account of that idiot to promote to her 800k followers.

Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/LaraLeaTrump/status/1230881245783089153

Follow it through, see what this YouTube account represents if you want. It's sort of like retweeting the KKK's upload of a Trump video, directing your viewers to the KKK Youtube account. If you think that's something OK for Lara Trump, OK, we can agree to disagree.
 
vesper said:
This is the second day in a row I have heard the term QAnon. It must not be something that the majority of us are aware of. I learned yesterday it is some right-winged group used by the left to be an insult. I thought about that today and what is considered right-wing today would include the ideology of President John Kennedy. Heck the ideology of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln, Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Paine, the list goes on today would be considered far right-wing according to the left today.
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If you've not heard of QAnon until today, that's quite a feat, but your determined ignorance of the group isn't a good excuse to misrepresent what the group represents. You can start like many things with wiki: QAnon - Wikipedia

Point is it's not that the groups is "far right" but that they believe the unhinged musings of some unknown person who calls himself "Q" and who pushes baseless CTs out to his audience.

The problem here is sometimes the group is used as a generalized insult, like right wingers using Antifa to smear the left, even those who have nothing to do with that group, but here Lara Trump is literally promoting one of the main Q online accounts.
 
vesper said:
At Media Matters?, Daily Kos?, Slate?, HufoPufo? The Democratic Underground? The Village Voice? New Yorker? It may well have been. I don't normally read those publications. QAnon has not come up in many places I get my news.
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Well, if you follow Trump on Twitter, check out some of those commenting. You'll find a lot of them referencing Q directly, in their profiles. So, no, you don't have to ever visit Media Matters - just Trump's social media and the social media of his prominent supporters. This is common: #WWG1WGA

Put that into a Twitter search and see what you get. One at the top at this moment is this. Check our her bio:

https://twitter.com/MadLoveMomma/status/1231037102139363329

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So when Q is being pushed by the President and his team, you might pay attention just a little bit. Some of us have which is why we object to this CT being spread by Trump's family.
 
Metric Mouse said:
Yes, but Trump retweets things that praise him (or things that he believes praise him), completely irrespective of any link to "Q". The original post is a clear example - Nothing in the video is remotely conspiratorial or obscure; it is literally Trump quotes set to music. Qanon draws their conspiracy from Trumps actions and inclinations, not the other way around. The fact that you suggest Q anons message is being "amplified" by the White House is an absurd conspiracy; there is no evidence that Q has any reach into the presidential administration.
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Lara Trump just promoted this Q moron's YouTube account. Go see for yourself what he's pushing on that account. It's almost entirely a series of videos with up to 1.7 million views promoting QAnon.

So it's not a CT, and there's evidence on this very thread in the OP. Here's Lara Trump promoting Q: https://twitter.com/LaraLeaTrump/status/1230881245783089153
 
Cardinal said:
Bernie is going to stand solidly with NATO. If Trump wins a second term, he'll withdraw from NATO. That's just a fact, and Putin knows it.

If you're Putin and you have the ability to put your thumb on the scale, there's no argument. You're going with Trump.
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Bernie rails about NATO members shouldering more of the funding in the exact same way Trump does, a clear signal that he would be happy with a less active role in NATO. He also argues against accepting new NATO members because it might "antagonize Russia". Of course, these countries just happen to be at the top of Russia's absorption list over the next decade...

He's only one step away from Trump on Russian foreign policy (and much other foreign policy), and it's not a big step.
 
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