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Bloomberg claims he led NYC through 9/11

Giuliani was fired because of it, and Bloomberg was hired to lead NYC back from it, which he did.
 



This is a good one.


Looks like he's pro gun reform too. I guess all the gun people are already Trump supporters so Bloomberg thinks gun reform is safe to run on.
 
Giuliani was fired because of it, and Bloomberg was hired to lead NYC back from it, which he did.

"I led a complex, diverse city through 9/11..."
 
Don't worry about it... Bloomberg is the worst thing to happen to Democrats this primary season, and all he has is distortions to run on. Like his ads featuring Obama giving him praises, implying support that Obama has not made a statement on.
 
Funny watching both the right and left attacking Bloomberg, yet he is popular among voters and is a serious threat when it comes to the election.
Fun stuff to watch unfold.
 
Giuliani was fired because of it, and Bloomberg was hired to lead NYC back from it, which he did.

Giuliani was NOT fired, You are spreading false information! He proudly served 2 terms as mayor. He was in office when NYC was attacked!

The New York City mayoral election of 2001 was held on November 6, 2001. Incumbent Republican mayor Rudy Giuliani could not run again due to term limits.





Giuliani was highly visible in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center. After the attacks, Giuliani coordinated the response of various city departments while organizing the support of state and federal authorities for the World Trade Center site, for citywide anti-terrorist measures, and for restoration of destroyed infrastructure. He made frequent appearances on radio and television on September 11 and afterwards — for example, to indicate that tunnels would be closed as a precautionary measure, and that there was no reason to believe that the dispersion of chemical or biological weaponry into the air was a factor in the attack.


Rudy Giuliani during the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia
 
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Don't worry about it... Bloomberg is the worst thing to happen to Democrats this primary season, and all he has is distortions to run on. Like his ads featuring Obama giving him praises, implying support that Obama has not made a statement on.

Bloomberg should be running as a Republican but he can't because he is somewhat honest and he hasn't taken the alt-right in as an adopted child.

Everyone thought that Pat Buchanan was an unrepentant racist in the 1980s but he is moderate compared to Trump and the GOP who defend him, despite not possessing either a spinal column or a moral center.
 

Rudy was hiding in his bunker for three days before emerging, Mike with his volunteer staff from his corporate headquarters were giving out coffee, doughnuts, and blankets at ground zero to first responders on 9/11 from 11pm forward. Other members of his staff were scavenging and scrounging gas masks and delivering them to ground zero. Mike and his people got no headlines, didn't want them. Rudy announced he was a hero when he finally stepped out of hiding. I was there, I witnessed all the aftermath. I remember when the volunteers from Lido Bakers which supplied bread for school lunches throughout the city, giving out sandwiches, cups of soup and coffee turned their backs on Rudy.
 
Another problem: What a cluster F the rebuilding of the Trade Center site has been.

Actually, no. The new Trade Center buildings are fully rented and nicer looking than the twin towers, took awhile to work out the insurance details because the insurers didn't want to pony up. Almost entirely rebuilt. The only mess, the new Fulton Street MTA center, a separate MTA politically corrupt construct. Very little of the prior station was damaged.
 
Actually, no. The new Trade Center buildings are fully rented and nicer looking than the twin towers, took awhile to work out the insurance details because the insurers didn't want to pony up. Almost entirely rebuilt. The only mess, the new Fulton Street MTA center, a separate MTA politically corrupt construct. Very little of the prior station was damaged.

Almost 20 years later I should hope it is almost entirely rebuilt.

Have you heard that the Chinese can build 1000 bed hospitals in under two weeks, or that the Empire State building took just over a year?
 
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Maybe you don't understand this, but Rudy Giuliani was mayor for just 3 months following 9/11. After the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center, the rescue and recovery clean-up of the 1.8 million tons of wreckage from the WTC site took 9 months. Mike Bloomberg was elected less than 2 months after the terrorist attack on the WTC and sworn in as Mayor of NY on Jan. 1st which means he was mayor for 6 months of the recovery while Giuliani was only in office for 3 of the 9 months.

This was a time when many believed that crime would return, businesses would flee, and New York would take decades to recover. Instead, under Mayor Bloomberg’s leadership, the city and lower Manhattan, came back stronger and faster than anyone expected. From his first day in office, he was right there spending time with the men and women working at Ground Zero, As the NY mayor, Mike Bloomberg made rebuilding lower Manhattan in ways that would honor all those killed that day—a top priority.
 
Almost 20 years later I should hope it is almost entirely rebuilt.

Have you heard that the Chinese can build 1000 bed hospitals in under two weeks, or that the Empire State building took just over a year?

Chinese build with lathing construction, lasts about 30 years when over two stories. The land they built on was previously cleared, and the contractor was the People's Liberation Army. 1,000 beds but few doctors, nurses and almost no equipment and supplies. We built longer lasting Quonset huts in two days, by the thousands. Some are still in use.

The Empire State Building foundation took 18 months for excavation and preparation prior to construction. It was built with kiln dried bamboo main beams in the foundation, which were ordered and built 4 years prior to construction. No stronger main beams were available at the time. Kiln dried bamboo is still a preferable material for high rise construction foundations. Encased in cement, life expectancy greater than 500 years. The high iron went up in 11 months, ordered from American Steel in Pittsburgh 4 years earlier. The facade went up almost simultaneously. The antenna which completed exterior height construction went up 2 years later. After a plane crashed into the building, I think in 1933, could have been later, exterior safety lighting was added. Interior build out took a decade above the 8th floor.

I recently developed a 10,000 sq ft mansion in Columbia County NY. The structure almost entirely factory prefab. Laid the foundation of pour plasticized cement in two days, dried for three, construction completed in 5 days including a custom interior build out. Built at a cost of $11 mil, closed at $28 mil, $14 mil less than nearby listings considered lower quality in design, appurtenances, interior space, natural light and ecosystem integration. About 1k sq ft is a dedicated water recovery, heating and cooling system, and hot house garden for year round use. An interior lap swimming pool, 6 bedrooms, 6 full bathrooms upstairs, 2 half bathrooms downstairs, a full eat in semi professional kitchen, dining room for 12, music room with a new Steinway baby grand, a 3k sq ft great room with two fireplaces and 14' beamed ceilings, custom lighting. A sun room on the west, a mudroom at the back door with deck around the entire rear, another outdoor pool, outdoor showers, a storage building and maintenance shed. A separate 6 car garage, stable for 12 horses. In the front is a roofed 1,600 sq ft veranda. 8' windows in the southwest rear, 6' windows for the rest of the house. A second floor private terrace off the master bedroom suite on the second floor. A fully ventilated attic that can be sealed in the winter with the touch of button. Plenty of other amenities including a terra cotta roof, and imported cremona marble floors from Italy for the entire first floor, salvaged teak for the second story floors and paneling. The veranda, rear deck and second story balcony are of American oak. It was sold before construction commenced. The land, 42 acres including drainage cost an additional $12 mil, including a natural pond, two trout streams. The buyer had to purchase the land prior to construction, as well as pay separately for power grid connections.

Time is money, but quality is a different matter. For something as complex as the new Trade Center construction, I expected a build time of 2 decades because of the complexities. Silverstein showed he is an excellent planner.
 
Chinese build with lathing construction, lasts about 30 years when over two stories. The land they built on was previously cleared, and the contractor was the People's Liberation Army. 1,000 beds but few doctors, nurses and almost no equipment and supplies. We built longer lasting Quonset huts in two days, by the thousands. Some are still in use.

The Empire State Building foundation took 18 months for excavation and preparation prior to construction. It was built with kiln dried bamboo main beams in the foundation, which were ordered and built 4 years prior to construction. No stronger main beams were available at the time. Kiln dried bamboo is still a preferable material for high rise construction foundations. Encased in cement, life expectancy greater than 500 years. The high iron went up in 11 months, ordered from American Steel in Pittsburgh 4 years earlier. The facade went up almost simultaneously. The antenna which completed exterior height construction went up 2 years later. After a plane crashed into the building, I think in 1933, could have been later, exterior safety lighting was added. Interior build out took a decade above the 8th floor.

I recently developed a 10,000 sq ft mansion in Columbia County NY. The structure almost entirely factory prefab. Laid the foundation of pour plasticized cement in two days, dried for three, construction completed in 5 days including a custom interior build out. Built at a cost of $11 mil, closed at $28 mil, $14 mil less than nearby listings considered lower quality in design, appurtenances, interior space, natural light and ecosystem integration. About 1k sq ft is a dedicated water recovery, heating and cooling system, and hot house garden for year round use. An interior lap swimming pool, 6 bedrooms, 6 full bathrooms upstairs, 2 half bathrooms downstairs, a full eat in semi professional kitchen, dining room for 12, music room with a new Steinway baby grand, a 3k sq ft great room with two fireplaces and 14' beamed ceilings, custom lighting. A sun room on the west, a mudroom at the back door with deck around the entire rear, another outdoor pool, outdoor showers, a storage building and maintenance shed. A separate 6 car garage, stable for 12 horses. In the front is a roofed 1,600 sq ft veranda. 8' windows in the southwest rear, 6' windows for the rest of the house. A second floor private terrace off the master bedroom suite on the second floor. A fully ventilated attic that can be sealed in the winter with the touch of button. Plenty of other amenities including a terra cotta roof, and imported cremona marble floors from Italy for the entire first floor, salvaged teak for the second story floors and paneling. The veranda, rear deck and second story balcony are of American oak. It was sold before construction commenced. The land, 42 acres including drainage cost an additional $12 mil, including a natural pond, two trout streams. The buyer had to purchase the land prior to construction, as well as pay separately for power grid connections.

Time is money, but quality is a different matter. For something as complex as the new Trade Center construction, I expected a build time of 2 decades because of the complexities. Silverstein showed he is an excellent planner.

Yet another quality post from you...Thank You.

I dont agree that the rebuilding of World Trade Center was well done, and a huge part of that was lack of leadership at the top, to include Bloomberg,...but as we both know I know who you are, and you are the expert....plus I have never caught you lying....just wrong.
 
Bloomberg has the Trump right and the prog left scared: they should be.
 
Bloomberg = On the Yellow Brick Road To Nowhere

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Yet another quality post from you...Thank You.

I dont agree that the rebuilding of World Trade Center was well done, and a huge part of that was lack of leadership at the top, to include Bloomberg,...but as we both know I know who you are, and you are the expert....plus I have never caught you lying....just wrong.

Bloomberg had as much to do with the planning and redevelopment of the Trade Center, as Giuliani. Nothing but sound bytes. Same with Andy Cuomo. The site is owned by the Port Authority of NY and NJ, but the 99 year land lease is entirely in the hand of Silverstein Properties, and that is where and with whom all decisions were resolved, with exception of safety recommendations from the NYFD. The real obstacles and time consumers were the insurance companies with their litigation, in the end costing them more, and politicians with their hands out as Larry Silverstein publicly and privately smacked them down. 16 unions attempted to shakedown the construction, 16 union leaders were tied to mobsters and did time for extortion, fraud, racketeering and so on in Federal prisons doing hard time.

I've had the pleasure of sitting down to lunch with Larry more than a few times, at the B'Nai Brith Real Estate Lodge, as a guest of different members. He's a physically small man, unassuming, and charming. Started out as a real estate salesman renting apartments in Forest Hills Queen on the same block where I later had my offices. By then his main office was a mile away in the main commercial area of Forest Hills, on a prime corner where he owned the block, and had a bank on the first floor as his anchor tenant, while his everyday office was in Manhattan in Tribecca before it was called Tribecca. His first hand knowledge base was up there with the best, Durst, Helmsley and the rest who rebuilt Manhattan. Unlike Elliot Spitzer's father and many others, these guys quietly told the wise guys where to get off, and the same with the politicians. None of them ever backed down from a fight with any of the clowns, and they did not lose. Yet, they were all humble and generous, not just with money but their time for those starting out, no matter how small or ethnic background. Larry still has his house in Forest Hills Gardens, a few blocks from his office which is still operating. And a two block walk to the Long Island Railroad station which he still uses to commute to Manhattan. No chauffeured limousine or huge 4 wheeler. He drives a 20 some odd year old Buick and wears off the rack suits, shirts from Macy's, gifted ugly ties. He dotes on his wife and grandchildren, as he should. Married for more than 50 years. The Trade Center is his. I always laughed when I read in the papers, of Larry showing up two or three hours late for meetings with Bloomberg, the mayor, and then leaving after 15 minutes, excusing himself with "I've work to do." There would be photos in the papers the next day, Bloomberg standing with his mouth hanging open.

BTW, Durst had the most interesting operating philosophy, "Never buy a building you can't walk to in 15 minutes or less from your home." He owned every major Broadway theater building, and most of the Times Square important properties. Now in the hands of his sons and daughters except for Fred, who will soon be going on trial for murder in California. His siblings bought him out after their father passed. He terrified them. None of Durst's competitors believed he would succeed. Now those theaters are major cash cows, as are all the buildings he acquired in midtown. Those former SRO's now boutique hotels.

Men like Fred, Sant Chatwal, when Koch declared a moratorium on SRO conversions to co-ops and condos, bought them for a pittance, returning to their former glory as top class hotels per their certificates of occupancy. They gentrified before it was a common practice and fashionable, building empires. Learning from Harry Helmsley. Harry did it with old office buildings, abandoned apartment buildings, blocks of tenements he tore down, turning them into A class buildings. Cashing out by refinancing, and then investing in more buildings. Chase Bank's hidden source of recurring income. Harry and Larry Hilton learned from Freedman Roth Realty where they both started as salesmen, the oldest and longest running real estate brokerage in the city until Jesse Roth passed, and the company dissolved. Jesse's daughter Robyn married a good friend of mine, a then young architect I still work with tho we are both now old. They live in grandeur in Muttontown, on an estate inherited from her mother's family, the Rothchilds. Robyn was Andy Warhol's landlord and sponsor back in the day. She turned the Chelsea Hotel into party central after shows at her Mercer Arts Center in Soho. Great times at the time. The Mercer Arts Center went up in flames, a devastating fire, and is now part of NYU's expansion. The Chelsea Hotel, now a very, very expensive and exclusive condominium.
 
Maybe you don't understand this, but Rudy Giuliani was mayor for just 3 months following 9/11. After the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center, the rescue and recovery clean-up of the 1.8 million tons of wreckage from the WTC site took 9 months. Mike Bloomberg was elected less than 2 months after the terrorist attack on the WTC and sworn in as Mayor of NY on Jan. 1st which means he was mayor for 6 months of the recovery while Giuliani was only in office for 3 of the 9 months.

This was a time when many believed that crime would return, businesses would flee, and New York would take decades to recover. Instead, under Mayor Bloomberg’s leadership, the city and lower Manhattan, came back stronger and faster than anyone expected. From his first day in office, he was right there spending time with the men and women working at Ground Zero, As the NY mayor, Mike Bloomberg made rebuilding lower Manhattan in ways that would honor all those killed that day—a top priority.

Rudy led NYC through 9/11. Buy a calender.
 
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