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Why Does Putin Want Trump?

JackA said:
Putin wanted Trump in 2016, that we know, conspiracy or no conspiracy. If he had wanted Hillary (for him like wanting a toothache) Trump, for one thing, would not have been able to secretly negotiate for a Moscow hotel through most of the primary season. On top of that Putin admitted flat out in a press conference he preferred Trump and before that the intelligence services uncovered various Russian efforts to help cause his choice to materialize. Now, Putin wants Trump for a second term, according to Trump's own national intelligence service. Why does he? Two obvious benefits to Russia come to mind. One, Trump has been a thorn in our trans Atlantic alliances, weakening them to Russia's benefit. Two, Trump has been a strikingly divisive force in the United States, weakening us to Russia's benefit. Seem like two good reasons to me.
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There was also evidence that the Russians threw out money to also support Hillary. The aim was to create division in the country and among the parties and their supporters. It clearly worked.
 
Paradoxical said:
That you guys are still clinging to this long ago debunked Russian collusion nonsense is disturbing. I just don't get it. It's really weird and odd and strange. What's the deal? Do you want to get Trump sooooo bad you feel a need to resurrect the dead
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Your post arrived in a grave condition sad to say.

Because Barr misrepresented the Mueller Report before the public could receive it and Barr did so consciously, willfully and with a mal intent, ie, premeditation and with the purpose of evasion.

The fact of collusion is anyway so yesterday given especially that Putin-Trump & Rowers have moved on to bigger and worse things -- the destruction of the Article 3 Judiciary and of justice itself to include abusing pardon powers. So the American Right considers the persecutions in the DOJ pipeline to be only a cleanup job.
 
Integrityrespec said:
There was also evidence that the Russians threw out money to also support Hillary. The aim was to create division in the country and among the parties and their supporters. It clearly worked.
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Putin Trump LLC.

Very limited liability given Putin lives abroad and Trump is not subject to indictment.

Trump as potus is a complete failure at protecting the American people from the attacks by Putin and his cult of Rowers.
 
Integrityrespec said:
There was also evidence that the Russians threw out money to also support Hillary. The aim was to create division in the country and among the parties and their supporters. It clearly worked.
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That’s why mcconnell won’t stop it.
 
US&THEM said:
Schiff if is the intel chairman by law he has access to intel. Nunes is a bumbling fool who has shown his ass more than once and he has had direct communication with Parnas and never came clean as he asked questions during the impeachment hearings.

Nunes is a national embarrassment.
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It was Schiff that went on national TV professing he had “direct” and “ample” evidence of Trump being a Russian asset
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It was Schiff that opened the impeachment hearings with a parody of a Soprano movie skit about Trumps call
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It was Schiff who ran to the press at every break in the hearings to give his opinion of how Trump will be removed
FAIL

It was Schiff who secretly subpoenaed phone records of Nunes and leaked them to the media
FAIL

It was Schiff who misrepresented his connections to the whistleblower, pretending not to know his identity
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It was Schiff who misrepresented the testimony of Morrison's during the House investigation when the transcript of Morrison’s testimony reveals he saw nothing inappropriate about the call.
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It was Schiff that tried to remove a sitting president in just 78 days
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It was Schiff that tried to threaten, intimidate, bully, coerce, and cajole several Republican members of the US Senate into cowering and acquiescing before his illogical rants.
FAIL

If you're going to talk about a national embarrassment, standing up for Schiff is about the most hypocritical thing you could ever conceive.
 
Linc said:
That’s why mcconnell won’t stop it.
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Condor060 said:
It was Schiff that went on national TV professing he had “direct” and “ample” evidence of Trump being a Russian asset
FAIL

It was Schiff that opened the impeachment hearings with a parody of a Soprano movie skit about Trumps call
FAIL

It was Schiff who ran to the press at every break in the hearings to give his opinion of how Trump will be removed
FAIL

It was Schiff who secretly subpoenaed phone records of Nunes and leaked them to the media
FAIL

It was Schiff who misrepresented his connections to the whistleblower, pretending not to know his identity
FAIL

It was Schiff who misrepresented the testimony of Morrison's during the House investigation when the transcript of Morrison’s testimony reveals he saw nothing inappropriate about the call.
FAIL

It was Schiff that tried to remove a sitting president in just 78 days
FAIL

It was Schiff that tried to threaten, intimidate, bully, coerce, and cajole several Republican members of the US Senate into cowering and acquiescing before his illogical rants.
FAIL

If you're going to talk about a national embarrassment, standing up for Schiff is about the most hypocritical thing you could ever conceive.
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Yes exactly if you replace Schiff with Trump your post is dead on
 
US&THEM said:
Yes exactly if you replace Schiff with Trump your post is dead on
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So you think Trump was trying to get Trump impeached? Yeah, that makes sense. Care to try again.
 
trixare4kids said:
Again..
“I accept our intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place,” Trump said.
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When did he finally say that?
 
trixare4kids said:
Again..
“I accept our intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place,” Trump said.
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So he admitted it after denying it or deflecting it. Our country is attacked and he turns into Mr. Wishy Washy. And now he repeats the pattern. No surprise. A true patriot would have his hair on fire talking tough to his sweetheart Putin. But then again, he did investigate and tell us Putin denied it about 2016, so there’s that. I feel reassured, and will consider voting for the Trump-Putin ticket in November.
 
JackA said:
Putin wanted Trump in 2016, that we know, conspiracy or no conspiracy. If he had wanted Hillary (for him like wanting a toothache) Trump, for one thing, would not have been able to secretly negotiate for a Moscow hotel through most of the primary season. On top of that Putin admitted flat out in a press conference he preferred Trump and before that the intelligence services uncovered various Russian efforts to help cause his choice to materialize. Now, Putin wants Trump for a second term, according to Trump's own national intelligence service. Why does he? Two obvious benefits to Russia come to mind. One, Trump has been a thorn in our trans Atlantic alliances, weakening them to Russia's benefit. Two, Trump has been a strikingly divisive force in the United States, weakening us to Russia's benefit. Seem like two good reasons to me.
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You missed the real reason. the real reason is that, in Trump, Putin has hopes of eventually getting the sanctions lifted. See Exxon has secured the rights to millions of Acres in Russia to explore for oil. The sanctions prevent Exxon , who is really the only company that can do this, to explore the lands for oil which estimates have would enrich Putin to the tune of some 500 billion, as Putin uses his oil company as his private piggy bank. Do you recall who the former CEO of Exxon was? It was Tillerson.

And whom do you think ultimately was responsible for Tillerson being recommended to Trump to be Secretary of State?

Elementary, my dear Watson, it was Putin, of course. Also recall that Tillerson was awarded Russia's highest civilian Medal of Honor by Putin himself

And the right wonders why Democrats call Trump a Russian operative
 
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Moderate Right said:
Putin is sowing all of this into your head and you fall for it hook, line, and sinker. You guys run around like chickens with your heads cut off screaming Trump isn't the legitimate president, let's impeach him. You are doing exactly what Putin wants you to do and you are too blind to see that it is the left who are actually colluding with the Russians.
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Didn't you get the memo?

Putin said democrats ars colluding with ukrainians
 
element94 said:
Nobody cares more about 2016 than you guys.:roll:
Anybody would be better, including those that were running on the GOP side, than the overflowing toilet that is the Trump "administration".
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Seeing as how things have progressed. I'll take your opinion of the current GOP as slightly less than inspired.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
Tell me something. Which is worse?

During the height of the WikiLeaks disclosures provided by Russian military intelligence, Trump asked for more help from Russia.

Or:

During the height of the WikiLeaks disclosures provided by Russian military intelligence, Trump was dumb enough to joke about asking Russia for more help.

Regardless of your answer, Trump made himself look like an idiot.

Please note from my post, that was only the beginning of Trump's loyalty to Russia. During last summer, Trump held up invaluable military aid to an ally in a shooting war with Russia, Ukraine.
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I think he made those who thought he was serious about finding DESTROYED emails look dumb. I LOVED the fact the Julian Assange leaked them and am mystified why the Democrats went ballistic over releasing emails. One would think your side would be happy that emails which showed how good and moral your party was were being revealed.

In any event, Trump at least knew you don't find destroyed emails in he first place, knew that he could needle Hillary by suggesting Russia do it, when all of America knew it was Julian Assange and NOT Russia that got them in the first place.
 
Tangmo said:
Your post arrived in a grave condition sad to say.

Because Barr misrepresented the Mueller Report before the public could receive it and Barr did so consciously, willfully and with a mal intent, ie, premeditation and with the purpose of evasion.

The fact of collusion is anyway so yesterday given especially that Putin-Trump & Rowers have moved on to bigger and worse things -- the destruction of the Article 3 Judiciary and of justice itself to include abusing pardon powers. So the American Right considers the persecutions in the DOJ pipeline to be only a cleanup job.
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Please drop this nonsense. Weissmann leaked the report to the press because Barr said he found NO collusion or obstruction. It was the team of assassins with Weissmann doing the leaking that didn't like that Barr spoke the truth.
 
Condor060 said:
So you think Trump was trying to get Trump impeached? Yeah, that makes sense. Care to try again.
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Trump doesn’t think enough to understand what are laws are and we all should abide by them.
 
captaintrips said:
Maybe him and obama can sit in a cell together.

With hilary !

That would be fun to watch.

But... but first we have to at least start pretending that American laws apply equally to EVERYBODY within our borders ... Can you imagine THAT ???

I CAN, but I don't see it ever happening.

Not with the MOB we've had in charge of our "government" for the last 50, 100 ? years
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Yet another Trumpster whataboutism. Nonsense based on nothing.
 
US&THEM said:
Trump doesn’t think enough to understand what are laws are and we all should abide by them.
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Trump has not respect or interest in laws.

He is above them.

His fans think he is above them (although when you point that out, they default to the usual collection of talk radio one liner attempt to deflect,derail, or play the empty whataboutism games.

These people are going to got to the rally and cheer for the man who wants to be their king.
 
Paradoxical said:
Your side PAID for dirt on Trump from Russia using FBI agents, but that's OK, eh?
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My side? I am and have always been a registered Independent. The FBI conducted an investigation because of Carter Page and Popadopulous. When someone surrounds one self with morons and hacks that is what happens.
 
OscarLevant said:
You missed the real reason. the real reason is that, in Trump, Putin has hopes of eventually getting the sanctions lifted. See Exxon has secured the rights to millions of Acres in Russia to explore for oil. The sanctions prevent Exxon , who is really the only company that can do this, to explore the lands for oil which estimates have would enrich Putin to the tune of some 500 billion, as Putin uses his oil company as his private piggy bank. Do you recall who the former CEO of Exxon was? It was Tillerson.

And whom do you think ultimately was responsible for Tillerson being recommended to Trump to be Secretary of State?

Elementary, my dear Watson, it was Putin, of course. Also recall that Tillerson was awarded Russia's highest civilian Medal of Honor by Putin himself

And the right wonders why Democrats call Trump a Russian operative
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I don't know if sanctions relief is the "real" reason but it's an additional reason. Trump would need a heretofore oppositional Congress to do it but considering our drip drop sinking into undivided government that may not be far off.
 
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