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Why Does Putin Want Trump?

JackA said:
Putin wanted Trump in 2016, that we know, conspiracy or no conspiracy. If he had wanted Hillary (for him like wanting a toothache) Trump, for one thing, would not have been able to secretly negotiate for a Moscow hotel through most of the primary season. On top of that Putin admitted flat out in a press conference he preferred Trump and before that the intelligence services uncovered various Russian efforts to help cause his choice to materialize. Now, Putin wants Trump for a second term, according to Trump's own national intelligence service. Why does he? Two obvious benefits to Russia come to mind. One, Trump has been a thorn in our trans Atlantic alliances, weakening them to Russia's benefit. Two, Trump has been a strikingly divisive force in the United States, weakening us to Russia's benefit. Seem like two good reasons to me.
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Incredibly stupid. Putin was a Lt. Col in the KGB, he ain't stupid like you democrats. If he wanted Trump for some nefarious reason would he be out there saying so? Hell, no he wouldn't. He is just trolling the dumb ass democrats and they love it.
 
Condor060 said:
Already debunked. Schiff ran to the NYT with a fairy tale. It was never part of the briefing. Everyone but you knows this already.
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Schiff is much worse for this country than Trump. Schiff has floated several fairy tales about Trump that for his being a member of Congress would get him a very large lawsuit. Collusion, not true and Schiff keeps claiming it was. He's a Russian asset.
 
j brown's body said:
Russians gave money to the NRA and the NRA gave money to Trump.
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OMG, REALLY? Show us. Or are you just spewing Liberal BS again.

Other than Alexander Torshin giving $1000.00 to the NRA for a life membership payment, What money are you talking about?
 
OpportunityCost said:
He didn't pay his dues, he didn't become beholden to lobbyists, he regularly works outside the common wisdom of both parties. He does things his way, not the DC way and because of that, he is definitely an outsider.
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The consumate outsider, he is, in fact, only in it for himself.
 
JackA said:
Putin wanted Trump in 2016, that we know, conspiracy or no conspiracy. If he had wanted Hillary (for him like wanting a toothache) Trump, for one thing, would not have been able to secretly negotiate for a Moscow hotel through most of the primary season. On top of that Putin admitted flat out in a press conference he preferred Trump and before that the intelligence services uncovered various Russian efforts to help cause his choice to materialize. Now, Putin wants Trump for a second term, according to Trump's own national intelligence service. Why does he? Two obvious benefits to Russia come to mind. One, Trump has been a thorn in our trans Atlantic alliances, weakening them to Russia's benefit. Two, Trump has been a strikingly divisive force in the United States, weakening us to Russia's benefit. Seem like two good reasons to me.
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Because he is a broken man who is easy to manipulate.
 
Condor060 said:
OMG, REALLY? Show us. Or are you just spewing Liberal BS again.

Other than Alexander Torshin giving $1000.00 to the NRA for a life membership payment, What money are you talking about?
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Thanks for supporting my point. That is what we know about. And I believe it was $2500.
 
j brown's body said:
Incorrect. He is currently calling the warning of Russian 2020 election meddling a Democratic hoax.

As we watch Trump contradict his own intelligence community while covering for Russian interference, right-wingers here winder why Putin supports Trump.

The answer is staring us in the face.

Amazing.
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Hey, Well what do you know. Liberal news is now stating Russia is trying to get Bernie elected. It must be true right? Its from your own news sources. It must be true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html
 
Integrityrespec said:
Schiff is much worse for this country than Trump. Schiff has floated several fairy tales about Trump that for his being a member of Congress would get him a very large lawsuit. Collusion, not true and Schiff keeps claiming it was. He's a Russian asset.
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Setting aside your senseless screed about Schiff, he is a member of Congress with responsibilities related to this.

Informing Schiff that Russia might want Trump to win may have been to Trump an unacceptable handing of a political talking point to a sworn enemy and not the proper functioning of the government, which, is, of course, corrupt.

But Trump only has himself to blame as he covers for Russia and refuses to try to protect us from their interference.
 
Tangmo said:
The United States of America as you want it to be is not your God given right to have as the righteous gift of the rightwing God you've chosen to lord over your life. When we in the USA say "In God We Trust" it means Putin and his Russian God are alien to our God, ie, the Constitution which is a secular document to begin with.
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I am most definitely NOT a Christian. Putin has nothing to do with Trump and vice versa
 
Condor060 said:
Hey, Well what do you know. Liberal news is now stating Russia is trying to get Bernie elected. It must be true right? Its from your own news sources. It must be true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html
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From your source:

U.S. prosecutors found a Russian effort in 2016 to use social media to boost Sanders’s campaign against Hillary Clinton, part of a broader effort to hurt Clinton, sow dissension in the American electorate and ultimately help elect Donald Trump.
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Emphasis mine.

Here's a breath of fresh air:

“My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do.
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Why can't Trump say and do that?
 
Integrityrespec said:
Incredibly stupid. Putin was a Lt. Col in the KGB, he ain't stupid like you democrats. If he wanted Trump for some nefarious reason would he be out there saying so? Hell, no he wouldn't. He is just trolling the dumb ass democrats and they love it.
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Look past your nose at the unanimous findings of the intelligence agencies in 2016. Putin didn't mind acknowledging his preference since the interference by his government had already been fully exposed. Moreover, Trump was President by then so it was good politicking to say he favored him. You also demonstrate the "incredibly stupid" (if I may quote you) habit of countering an argument by cherrypicking a part of it and ignoring the rest, when it's by ignoring those points in your answer that you endorse them. In other words, you just agreed with me by ordinary debate standards though you obviously don't know it.
 
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j brown's body said:
Thanks for supporting my point. That is what we know about. And I believe it was $2500.
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I don't care what you believe. Where is all this money taken by the NRA from Russia and given to Trump so Russia could help him get elected?

All you got is a 1000 bucks? This is what you are squawking about. 1000 bucks? This is what you think was done in secret to elect a president of the US?

Just wow. Kind of brings all your post into reality, doesn't it.
 
Paradoxical said:
I am most definitely NOT a Christian. Putin has nothing to do with Trump and vice versa
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Putin is a Trump supporter, and Trump welcomes that support, and has used Russia's stolen information in his past campaign.
 
Condor060 said:
I don't care what you believe. Where is all this money taken by the NRA from Russia and given to Trump so Russia could help him get elected?

All you got is a 1000 bucks? This is what you are squawking about. 1000 bucks? This is what you think was done in secret to elect a president of the US?

Just wow. Kind of brings all your post into reality, doesn't it.
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A little corruption is okay? Wow.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Incredibly stupid. Putin was a Lt. Col in the KGB, he ain't stupid like you democrats. If he wanted Trump for some nefarious reason would he be out there saying so? Hell, no he wouldn't. He is just trolling the dumb ass democrats and they love it.
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So the Republucans are being prudent by ignoring our itel's warnings?

Do you guys even listen to yourselves?
 
j brown's body said:
A little corruption is okay? Wow.
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No, :lamo Your idea that 1000 bucks would help elect a president of the US is pretty juvenile. But hey. If its all you got, its all you got. :2rofll:
 
Condor060 said:
Wait a minute, one post ago this was all a conspiracy theory. Make up your mind.
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No what I am saying is common sense and the intel briefings are required by law.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Incredibly stupid. Putin was a Lt. Col in the KGB, he ain't stupid like you democrats. If he wanted Trump for some nefarious reason would he be out there saying so? Hell, no he wouldn't. He is just trolling the dumb ass democrats and they love it.
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AND, I guarantee Demorats best friend, Vladimir Putin, is enjoying himself observing how easily manipulated these dimwitted demorats ARE.

Hell, they run around doing what Vlad wants and he doesn't even have to make a request ! "Good little marionettes !" Vladimir Putin

It's weird, a little creepy but kind of fun to watch. Sort of a Twilight Zone the Outerlimits combination.

Communists and idiots running for president, the rest of it, the "media" etc etc
 
US&THEM said:
No what I am saying is common sense and the intel briefings are required by law.
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Shelby Pierson was giving classified intel briefings, not Maquire. And who said anything about being required by law?
 
Condor060 said:
You jump around faster than a rabbit in heat. Now that we agree Schiff shouldn't have access to any intel communications because he leaks them to the media,
What was Nunes caught doing again?
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Schiff if is the intel chairman by law he has access to intel. Nunes is a bumbling fool who has shown his ass more than once and he has had direct communication with Parnas and never came clean as he asked questions during the impeachment hearings.

Nunes is a national embarrassment.
 
The CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, the Senate Judiciary Committee all say that the Russians meddled in the elections.

Seven of the Trumpers have been convicted and have been, are in, or will be in prison.

The President has meddled with investigations and witnesses, so his time in front of the Judge will be coming.

The President is a criminal.
 
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Condor060 said:
Shelby Pierson was giving classified intel briefings, not Maquire. And who said anything about being required by law?
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Yea the guy who works directly for Maguire.
 
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