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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by JackA View Post
    Putin wanted Trump in 2016, that we know, conspiracy or no conspiracy. If he had wanted Hillary (for him like wanting a toothache) Trump, for one thing, would not have been able to secretly negotiate for a Moscow hotel through most of the primary season. On top of that Putin admitted flat out in a press conference he preferred Trump and before that the intelligence services uncovered various Russian efforts to help cause his choice to materialize. Now, Putin wants Trump for a second term, according to Trump's own national intelligence service. Why does he? Two obvious benefits to Russia come to mind. One, Trump has been a thorn in our trans Atlantic alliances, weakening them to Russia's benefit. Two, Trump has been a strikingly divisive force in the United States, weakening us to Russia's benefit. Seem like two good reasons to me.
    Russia just wants to create division. I don't think they give a damn about anything else.

    If they really wanted Trump to be president, the last thing they would do is allow us to know it.
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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    So if Russia wanted Trump, and Trump won, I guess they wanted Pelosi and is why Democrats won the house in 2018.

    See how that works.

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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

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    Because Putin is ex-KGB and knows how to use people to destroy his enemies or adversaries. In this case he is using Trump to destroy the United States by robbing it blind.

    Trump "thinks" he can play Putin. Trump is not in Putin's league. Comparatively speaking Trump neither knows the game nor the score. Trump is simply putty in Putin's hands. Ultimately while it will look like Trump has executed his Imperial Executive complete with succession plan, he will only end up being Putin's tool as will DonDon's successor, either Don Jr or Ivanka.

    Trump will end up controlling the means of finance through installing his hacks and thugs at Treasury, IRS and the Federal Reserve to go along with his takeover of DOJ via Barr. Putin will simply syphon off Billions of Dollars. Funny, we are going to end up easier to manipulate for Putin than Ukraine. Now that is a hell of a note isn't it! Manafort Trump and Putin end up executing the exact same plan Manafort and Putin had for Ukraine only this time much more successfully.
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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Because Trump is anything but the status quo, and the status quo whether Democrat or Republican, doesn't benefit Russia.
    Correct. The status quo being democratic traditions and institutions. As authoritarians, they both oppose them.

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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

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    Russia, Russia, Russia, LOL. Here we go again.
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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    If Bernie is the nom, Putin will be delighted. He won't care who wins because either will make America worse.
    Unless a good Libertarian candidate emerges, I can support a moderate Dem. Biden, Klobuchar, or Mayor Pete. If it's Bernie, I will abstain. I bet I'm not alone.

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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    Correct. The status quo being democratic traditions and institutions. As authoritarians, they both oppose them.
    Of course they do, of course. Trump is politically an outsider. He doesn't accept traditional political status quo for that reason. It has nothing to do with being an authoritarian because he isn't, that's more 2016 butthurt whining.

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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by JackA View Post
    Putin wanted Trump in 2016, that we know, conspiracy or no conspiracy. If he had wanted Hillary (for him like wanting a toothache) Trump, for one thing, would not have been able to secretly negotiate for a Moscow hotel through most of the primary season. On top of that Putin admitted flat out in a press conference he preferred Trump and before that the intelligence services uncovered various Russian efforts to help cause his choice to materialize. Now, Putin wants Trump for a second term, according to Trump's own national intelligence service. Why does he? Two obvious benefits to Russia come to mind. One, Trump has been a thorn in our trans Atlantic alliances, weakening them to Russia's benefit. Two, Trump has been a strikingly divisive force in the United States, weakening us to Russia's benefit. Seem like two good reasons to me.
    What Russia wanted in 2016 was to sow distrust in our election system which they succeeded. They're probably trying to sow more distrust for 2020. The more divided we become, refusing to accept election results to to lack of trust, the weaker we are and the stronger or at least having the advantage of being united Russia is.

    Hillary lost because of her laziness, her inept campaign strategy, hiding from the media, her ho hum campaign, lack of energy and fire in the belly, she came across as aloof and elitist. Among many other reasons. Most of the above she had full control over. Let's not forget making Sanders support very angry at her for the DNC and Democratic party leaders rigging the primaries in her favor.

    Russia got what it wanted. If Russia can sow more distrust in our elections for 2020, you can bet the farm they will. What Russia wants is for half the people to view whoever is elected as illegitimate. To divide us to a point where we won't accept the results if our side loses. We're there now.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by JackA View Post
    Putin wanted Trump in 2016, that we know, conspiracy or no conspiracy. If he had wanted Hillary (for him like wanting a toothache) Trump, for one thing, would not have been able to secretly negotiate for a Moscow hotel through most of the primary season. On top of that Putin admitted flat out in a press conference he preferred Trump and before that the intelligence services uncovered various Russian efforts to help cause his choice to materialize. Now, Putin wants Trump for a second term, according to Trump's own national intelligence service. Why does he? Two obvious benefits to Russia come to mind. One, Trump has been a thorn in our trans Atlantic alliances, weakening them to Russia's benefit. Two, Trump has been a strikingly divisive force in the United States, weakening us to Russia's benefit. Seem like two good reasons to me.
    Our intelligence way back in 2016 told Obama that Russia wanted to undermine our democracy. We know they have been trying their best to pit both sides against the other. And, everything they are doing is working tremendously. For three years now the left have been running around like loony tunes screaming the sky is falling, the sky is falling and that the 2016 election wasn't legitimate and trying to impeach Trump. How best to perpetuate this for another four years by backing Trump in any way they can so the left will continue running around like loony tunes for five more years.

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    Re: Why Does Putin Want Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbyoung View Post
    Putin supports Trump in pursuit of a weaker America.
    Yes. By making the left run around with full blown TDS claiming that Trump isn't the legitimate president and should be impeached. You're playing right into the Russian's hands.

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