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VanceMack said:
Russia MUST be helping Trump. They cleverly managed to put that cast of clowns on the stage at the democrat debate and made them act like incompetent petty children.

Man, Russia has some serious reach....
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:lamo
 
Condor060 said:
News Flash, this is nothing new. Russia is involved in our politics just like we are in theirs. Trump has nothing to do with it.

Nobody denies whats been going on for 50 years. Nobody is buying its all Trumps fault and Trump and Putin are closet lovers.
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That doesn't jive with what you said before that. Yes, foreign interference in elections is a thing. Yes, it works to Trump's advantage presently. That's still a problem. It's a problem when Russia influences Americans in favor of Democrats too. That's the very simple concept that's lost on partisans.
 
Mr Person said:
I whited-out the rest of the stupid lying idiocy.

You are defending God's infantile and panicked behavior. Russia is trying to help him again. DNI reported it to - gasp - intelligence committee members. The report was to protect this thing you hate called The National Security of America.

But Trump flipped his ****, so so must you.

Would I be right if I guessed that the reason Trumpists wave around all these American symbols is that they understand that, deep down, they hate everything America actually represents?
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You whited out my post because you can't stand to read how ridiculous your thinking is. When its put in perspective, you white it out so you don't have to address it? Thats like running to your safe space because someone hurt your feelings.

Here are some more things you can white out that doesn't work for you either

Russia has been involved in US politics for over 50 years
The US is involved in Russian politics for just as long
Its not Trumps fault
Trump didn't collude with Russia
63 million voters are not Putin puppets
Nobody is going to follow you down any more rabbit holes about Russia Russia Russia
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You obviously underestimated how much the elites hate Trump.
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Yes, the elites hate Trump so much that they influenced Russia to interfere in the upcoming campaign, then let it leak so they could say Russia plans to interfere in the upcoming campaign. Wily elites.
 
Diesel said:
That doesn't jive with what you said before that. Yes, foreign interference in elections is a thing. Yes, it works to Trump's advantage presently. That's still a problem. It's a problem when Russia influences Americans in favor of Democrats too. That's the very simple concept that's lost on partisans.
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Explain to me how Russia wants Trump to be president

Explain how its beneficial for Russia to have a US president who is the first president to give lethal aid to Ukraine and another 10 million to their Navy to kill Russians.

Explain to me how Russia is influencing voters to vote for Trump

Seems to me if all this were true, they would want comrade Sanders. He already thinks like they do.
 
Linc said:
That’s why the trump-appointed acting DNI was just fired, for telling the truth about Russia.

Now we have an ADNI with no experience in intelligence, to go along with everyone else in trumpco with no experience or intelligence.
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A perfect fit for Trump, sort of a DeVos for foreign affairs.
 
Good4Nothin said:
Uh, did you somehow forget that Bernie IS a minority? Jews are one of the smallest minorities in this country. And we were persecuted until not long ago. Hey, where's my reparations?
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I don't think the current crop of Democrats think a Jew is a minority. He is whiter than I am and they only go by the color of your skin. So, sorry, Good4Nothin. You are Good4Nothin to them. You need some COLOR in you, boy! you won't get no victim status from just being a Jew! Besides, aren't all Jews rich? That definitely makes you a pariah. Only Bernie can be an exception to that rule because rich socialists are OK. You gotta learn the new rules.
 
bongsaway said:
It's now being reported Russia is once again helping trump. Story to be out tomorrow in the new york times.

Let me help the trump supporters. Fake news, hoax, another trump hating false article. Waaaaa, waaaaa, waaaa, we love trump.
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CNN is on it!

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What could Russia possibly say to make Trump win the election? Are they going to say Trump is going to give everyone free stuff?

Bernie already has that covered. He'll be the next president!

Actually there must have been polls done after the Nevada debate, so it's back to Russia collusion.
 
Condor060 said:
Oh, So now everyone are Putin puppets, but they don't know they're Putin puppets. Oookkkaaayyyyy

Wasn't that the same claim with Ukraine. Trump was bribing Zelensky, but Zelensky didn't know anything about being bribed, but even if he didn't know he was being bribed it has nothing to do with him being bribed?

We saw how that worked out for ya.

All these magical unicorn theories that never come to realization like

Kavanaugh is an alcoholic high school serial rapist
Trump is a planted Russian agent
All Trump loans are signed by Russian Oligarchs
Trump secretly bribed Ukraine without Ukraine knowing about it
Trump will be removed for the Emoluments clause
Trump has to provide his tax returns
Trump obstructed Congress firing Comey
Trump owes Russia billions of dollars

Meanwhile, In Colorado he has twice as many outside as he has inside and his New Jersey rally had 26% registered Democrats in attendance.

While you are here defaulting to the same old failed claims over and over looking for unicorns in fairy tale land.

Sorry, after 4 years of BS and fake claims nobody is listening anymore. If you need to have a fake Trump hate regurgitation fest its over there ------------>
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Come up with all the diversion you need, but at the end of the day Putin wants Trump as President and you are complicit and supportive of selling the nation out to Russians.
 
Condor060 said:
Explain to me how Russia wants Trump to be president

Explain how its beneficial for Russia to have a US president who is the first president to give lethal aid to Ukraine and another 10 million to their Navy to kill Russians.

Explain to me how Russia is influencing voters to vote for Trump

Seems to me if all this were true, they would want comrade Sanders. He already thinks like they do.
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I think if Russia could get its way, the US would just cease to exist altogether. Russia has been diametrically opposed to the US since the end of WWII. The end of the Cold War changed the rules but not the game. Since the US seems likely to exist for at least one more election, Russia's next best bet is to benefit the candidate that seems more likely to benefit it. I don't think political parties is the most important factor in Russia's calculus. The individual matters more than the party. In that regard, Trump is not a complicated nor a thoughtful person. He is easily manipulated by anything that appeals to his vanity. Congress and components of the executive branch will continue to obstruct some Russian aims no matter who the president is, but Russia sees a relatively friendly personality in Trump. As to the specifics, I encourage you to research them yourself. I'm sure Russia would try to influence voters in Sanders's favor given a number of different opponents, but in a matchup against Trump, the latter is clearly in Russia's greater interest.
 
Woah...heres a thought...what if BLOOMBERG is the Russian plant to get Donald Trump reelected???
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Bloomberg has made a ton of his money in China, and has proven willing to do what ever is required to keep the money flowing....and Russia is part of the New Chinese Empire......
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It all makes perfect sense...Comrade Mikhail Bloomberg....
 
Diesel said:
I think if Russia could get its way, the US would just cease to exist altogether. Russia has been diametrically opposed to the US since the end of WWII. The end of the Cold War changed the rules but not the game. Since the US seems likely to exist for at least one more election, Russia's next best bet is to benefit the candidate that seems more likely to benefit it. I don't think political parties is the most important factor in Russia's calculus. The individual matters more than the party. In that regard, Trump is not a complicated nor a thoughtful person. He is easily manipulated by anything that appeals to his vanity. Congress and components of the executive branch will continue to obstruct some Russian aims no matter who the president is, but Russia sees a relatively friendly personality in Trump. As to the specifics, I encourage you to research them yourself. I'm sure Russia would try to influence voters in Sanders's favor given a number of different opponents, but in a matchup against Trump, the latter is clearly in Russia's greater interest.
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This whole Russia thing is nothing but subterfuge. Their last aircraft carrier has to be towed. They are a broke nation and if we went to war with they would lose huge. The real threat to the US is China. The Russians aren't coming, they aren't going to take down America, and they are just being used as a convenient excuse.

If the Russians have such control over our elections and they love Republicans and Trump so much, how did they allow Democrats to take the House? Is Pelosi a Russian agent now?

I couldn't even believe my ears when I heard Hillary saying Tulsi was a Russian operative. This is just media hype preparing for another round of Russia Russia Russia part two.

China has the financial ability, manpower, Navy, weapons, technical abilities and motivations to take this country down hard. But China isn't a scary word. Its no different than Schiff looking for scary words that would get the most attention during the impeachment and wound up with bribery.

Having bad relations with Russia and North Korea doesn't benefit anyone. I have never understood why Democrats wants Trump to make a negative public statement about either. They know he won't so they just keep twisting that angle. They have their own cultures and reasons for how they operate. The good news is we don't pay NK hundreds of millions any more.
 
bongsaway said:
It's now being reported Russia is once again helping trump. Story to be out tomorrow in the new york times.

Let me help the trump supporters. Fake news, hoax, another trump hating false article. Waaaaa, waaaaa, waaaa, we love trump.
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You forgot the prime choice BULL****.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Come up with all the diversion you need, but at the end of the day Putin wants Trump as President and you are complicit and supportive of selling the nation out to Russians.
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Thats what you call all the failures of the party to take Trump down. Diversions?

The Russians aren't coming, they are a broke nation. Their last aircraft carrier has to be towed. If you want to fall for Russia Russia Russia part two, help yourself.

You wouldn't even know why Putin would want Trump as president. You just regurgitate it because its what you're told to do.

Its just fodder for the little brains to have something to squawk about.

Modern Russia inherited the military arsenal of the former Soviet Union, complete with a formidable force of nuclear-armed missiles, but it also inherited all the structural economic problems that plagued the USSR. Moreover, the breakup of the Soviet Union, and the loss of Soviet control over the eastern bloc, left Russia with a much smaller population and industrial base and a military arsenal that needs billions to stay effective.

In 1989, when the Soviet Union collapsed, its population was roughly 286 million. The U.S., by comparison, had a population of about 249 million. Since then, the U.S. population has grown to about 325 million, while that of Russia has fallen to about 143 million.

A comparison of automobile production between us can serve as a rough index of industrial capacity. In 2016, Russia produced about 1.3 million vehicles. The U.S. in comparison produced around 12.2 million vehicles.

In terms of GDP, in 1989 the Gross Domestic Product of the U.S. was $4.862 trillion, while that of the Soviet Union was $2.5 trillion. Per capita GDP was $19,800 versus $8,700.

By comparison, in 2016 Russia's GDP was $1.283 trillion, while that of the U.S. had grown to $18.62 trillion. Russian per capita GDP was roughly the same at $8,946, while that of the United States had increased to $57,608.

At $1.283 trillion, Russia's GDP is smaller than Turkey's and just barely larger than the Philippines. Alternatively, it is slightly larger than the state of New York and slightly smaller than that of Texas. Russia may have inherited the military arsenal of a super power, but it is an economic dwarf on the world stage.

The Kremlin's dilemma is that Russia's military aspirations are simply too big for its wallet. It may have a formidable military force, but that force requires maintenance to keep it effective and its technology has a life span. Most of it will be obsolete within one generation, all of it in less than two.

They are no more a threat the the US than Turkey is. If you want to worry about somebody, worry about China.
 
Condor060 said:
This whole Russia thing is nothing but subterfuge. Their last aircraft carrier has to be towed. They are a broke nation and if we went to war with they would lose huge. The real threat to the US is China. The Russians aren't coming, they aren't going to take down America, and they are just being used as a convenient excuse.

If the Russians have such control over our elections and they love Republicans and Trump so much, how did they allow Democrats to take the House? Is Pelosi a Russian agent now?

I couldn't even believe my ears when I heard Hillary saying Tulsi was a Russian operative. This is just media hype preparing for another round of Russia Russia Russia part two.

China has the financial ability, manpower, Navy, weapons, technical abilities and motivations to take this country down hard. But China isn't a scary word. Its no different than Schiff looking for scary words that would get the most attention during the impeachment and wound up with bribery.

Having bad relations with Russia and North Korea doesn't benefit anyone. I have never understood why Democrats wants Trump to make a negative public statement about either. They know he won't so they just keep twisting that angle. They have their own cultures and reasons for how they operate. The good news is we don't pay NK hundreds of millions any more.
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Yeah, this is why I don't take your posts seriously. Russia's a problem. It's not a problem. It's done this for decades. It's never done anything. Something about China. You don't have a position except pro-Trump/anti-anti-Trump.
 
Diesel said:
Yeah, this is why I don't take your posts seriously. Russia's a problem. It's not a problem. It's done this for decades. It's never done anything.
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I never said they weren't a problem and I never said they've never done anything, You just made that up. I said they are no match for the US. You're exaggerating.

And you don't take me seriously because you don't want to. Being blind doesn't fix anything, it just means your blind.

Something about China.
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Something about China huh? Please. I said China has the financial ability, manpower, Navy, weapons, technical abilities and motivations to take this country down hard.
That isn't something about China. It's a direct quote. More exaggerations

You don't have a position except pro-Trump/anti-anti-Trump.
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If you're just going to make up excuses then continue to believe whatever makes you happy. Talking to Liberals is a waste of time. You will talk yourselves into anything no matter what the evidence shows you just to feed your petty hate Trump agenda.
 
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3leftsdoo said:
Let me help you.

If you want serious replies to your topics, outline your point in the title rather than posting things like *Well well well.*

You're welcome.
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I notice you responded. Not with an answer but with a statement telling me how to compose my question. I apologize if the 'outline' confused you.
 
Acadia said:
Do you think we're Obama denying it like he did in 2016?
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Are you serious? Every trump supporter on here denies he had anything to do with russia last election and you're now telling me you don't deny it? That's hilarious.
 
 
bongsaway said:
It's now being reported Russia is once again helping trump. Story to be out tomorrow in the new york times.

Let me help the trump supporters. Fake news, hoax, another trump hating false article. Waaaaa, waaaaa, waaaa, we love trump.
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I'd impeach again! Nothing would be more fascinating to historians than the a President being impeached twice......then re-elected. That....that would be something for the histoey books.
My god if anyone out there is still on the fence about how deranged the left is....you shouldn't be. This is fascinating mass hysteria.
 
Condor060 said:
Sounds more like Liberals and Democrats already conceding to the huge loss coming in 2020 instead of just admitting their field of candidates are all flakes.
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Do you folks on the right all get your 'info' from the same source? You are the second person saying the dems have conceded. Funny I'm a dem and I haven't heard of any dems conceding.
 
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