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    Is Buttigieg Toast?

    I was looking at the polling in all of the Super Tuesday states and found not one poll showing Buttigieg in first place. For the most part it was all Bernie and Biden at the top of the polls with very few exceptions and not one of those exceptions was Buttigieg. Is he toast? Is he pretty much done for after Super Tuesday?

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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    From what I know about primaries is that they are very volatile. You never really know until it's over.

    If they don't get good showings come Super Tuesday, one or two will drop out.

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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    Last night he was petty and desperate.
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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    Pete been toast. He is polling at like 2% with African Americans.
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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    I was looking at the polling in all of the Super Tuesday states and found not one poll showing Buttigieg in first place. For the most part it was all Bernie and Biden at the top of the polls with very few exceptions and not one of those exceptions was Buttigieg. Is he toast? Is he pretty much done for after Super Tuesday?
    Yes, and yes.
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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    Pete been toast. He is polling at like 2% with African Americans.
    That isn’t really a problem. A focus group of African Americans in North Carolina identified that black people don’t have a problem with Pete’s positions on the issues or his actions as Mayor of South Bend. In fact, there is widespread support of his Douglas Plan. According to that focus group, what black voters have a problem with is his sexual orientation. It isn’t insurmountable - per the participants they’d be inclined to ignore it if he were to be endorsed by black leaders and celebrities. And he is starting to see those endorsements. But even if he doesn’t, what you’re suggesting is that it’s a good thing that someone would be riding a wave of bigots and homophobes to the convention.

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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

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    That isn’t really a problem. A focus group of African Americans in North Carolina identified that black people don’t have a problem with Pete’s positions on the issues or his actions as Mayor of South Bend. In fact, there is widespread support of his Douglas Plan. According to that focus group, what black voters have a problem with is his sexual orientation. It isn’t insurmountable - per the participants they’d be inclined to ignore it if he were to be endorsed by black leaders and celebrities. And he is starting to see those endorsements. But even if he doesn’t, what you’re suggesting is that it’s a good thing that someone would be riding a wave of bigots and homophobes to the convention.
    You mean the support for his Douglas Plan that he feigned with his ludicrous 'opt out' policy?

    https://theintercept.com/2019/11/15/...-black-voters/

    Pete Buttigieg accused of falsely touting South Carolina black support - Business Insider

    Democrat Pete Buttigieg overstated pledges of support from black leaders, public figures - ABC News

    His sexual orientation isn't the main problem at all.
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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistik View Post
    It is according to black voters per the focus group.

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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    It is according to black voters per the focus group.
    I'm not sure how a one off South Carolina focus group speaks definitively on behalf of black voters as a whole; even in that focus group, it was not considered by them to be disqualifying:

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    It's however telling that, rather than come to terms with the real reason Pete lacks popularity with black voters no matter where they are in this country, Pete's campaign and supporters would evidently prefer to label and dismiss them homophobic deplorables instead. Even when you consider the more systemic differentials on racial lines like approval for gay marriage, it still isn't nearly large enough to explain the huge discrepancy between white and minority support plaguing Pete's campaign.
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    Re: Is Buttigieg Toast?

    No he isn't toast. He is still in the running for a VP shoulder tap... maybe.
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