I'm not a Warren fan But....................

She's shrill and borderline histrionic. She's the old lady who complains that you have 11 items in the 10 or below checkout line.

Hawkeye10 said:

People are going to vote Sanders for the same reason so many vote Trump: "Oh the elites hate him THAT much.....OK, Thats my Guy right there!".

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That's fine, everything went right if you're a Sanders supporter. I'm trying to figure out the obsession to take down number two while enhancing number one. That goes against historical political wisdom if one wants to win.

3leftsdoo said:

Some excellent observations.

If Bernie wins Purple Nevada, look out, cuz he da man!

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I think Sanders win in Nevada is pretty well set in concrete. Now if he wins South Carolina, which is possible if Biden continues to slip, yep, watch out.

Perotista said:

That's fine, everything went right if you're a Sanders supporter. I'm trying to figure out the obsession to take down number two while enhancing number one. That goes against historical political wisdom if one wants to win.

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Well we know how dim the elites are now, and how much they still believe in the power of their Propaganda even though it has not worked against Trump over four years....at the moment it looks to me like they expect to keep Sanders from winning on the first vote, and so long as they do it does not matter how many delegates he has..everything you see now is about the second vote..who wins that.

Does this help?

Hawkeye10 said:

Well we know how dim the elites are now, and how much they still believe in the power of their Propaganda even though it has not worked against Trump over four years....at the moment it looks to me like they expect to keep Sanders from winning on the first vote, and so long as they do it does not matter how many delegates he has..everything you see now is about the second vote..who wins that.

Does this help?

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Not really. If the current trend holds, a mighty if. But if it does chances are Sanders will have all the delegates he needs 2/3rds through the primaries. If not that, he'll be the defacto nominee well enough ahead, no one could catch him. There hasn't been an open or brokered convention since 1952 and that was under the old smoke room, favorite son system with only 10-15 primaries and some of those were non-binding as delegates go. Just beauty contests. I don't expect a brokered or open convention this time either. A open or brokered convention hasn't come close since the modern primary system began in 1976. But political pundits always seem to talk about it.

Now if you're saying none of the candidates have the faintest idea of what they're doing or what they need to do to win, I'll buy that.

Condor060 said:

She did kick some Bloomburg ass in the debates last night.

This is what happens when you have people telling you how great you are for decades but find yourself in front of millions debating politicians who hate you for buying your way into a political debate. Talk about deer in the headlights look. :lamo IT WAS AWESOME

Here are the best highlights of the devastation. How much you wanna bet Bloomburg (Once ousted from the nomination) takes his money and goes home.

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He's a Republican number one, he's just another rich man that is used to doing what he wants and buying people off, just like our president, number two.

TobyOne said:

She's shrill and borderline histrionic. She's the old lady who complains that you have 11 items in the 10 or below checkout line.

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And, as it turns out, knees you in the nuts if you don't mind her. :shock:

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Perotista said:

That's fine, everything went right if you're a Sanders supporter. I'm trying to figure out the obsession to take down number two while enhancing number one. That goes against historical political wisdom if one wants to win.

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It's a good point; based on her single lukewarm reproach of Bernie last night, I'm thinking Lizzie is angling for the VP spot & took out Bernie's main competition as an indication of her formidable skill/value.

The others just resent the Hell out of Bloomie & his late entry, especially as they're going nowhere, and have worked hard to get there!

Perotista said:

I think Sanders win in Nevada is pretty well set in concrete. Now if he wins South Carolina, which is possible if Biden continues to slip, yep, watch out.

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It'll be an interesting test of where the state (NV) is.

A LOT of migration from Cali is turning it ever Bluer, but it's VERY Red outside of Vegas itself.

3leftsdoo said:

It's a good point; based on her single lukewarm reproach of Bernie last night, I'm thinking Lizzie is angling for the VP spot & took out Bernie's main competition as an indication of her formidable skill/value.

The others just resent the Hell out of Bloomie & his late entry, especially as they're going nowhere, and have worked hard to get there!

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Good point. That also might have been Christie's motivation when he destroyed Rubio in the GOP NH primary back in 2016. The VP slot. But the fact remains, if you're back in the pack, you're not going to move close to number one, the leader by attacking number two. It's like baseball standings. Entering the week 10 games behind first and 8 games behind second. After the week, you did real good by attacking number two. The problem now is you're 12 games behind the leader while only 4 behind number two. As for winning, you're worse off than before the week began. Unless you're angling for number two, the VP. The VP slot is sort of a wild card slot when one can't win the division, the nomination.

3leftsdoo said:

It'll be an interesting test of where the state (NV) is.

A LOT of migration from Cali is turning it ever Bluer, but it's VERY Red outside of Vegas itself.

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Not unusual. Very Democratic in and around the big cities, Republican in small towns and rural areas. Same here in Georgia. The Atlanta, Columbus, Augusta areas very deep blue, the rest, red.

Condor060 said:

She did kick some Bloomburg ass in the debates last night.

This is what happens when you have people telling you how great you are for decades but find yourself in front of millions debating politicians who hate you for buying your way into a political debate. Talk about deer in the headlights look. :lamo IT WAS AWESOME

Here are the best highlights of the devastation. How much you wanna bet Bloomburg (Once ousted from the nomination) takes his money and goes home.

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But, but, but didn't donald say he was going to spend his own money he didn't need any donors? I seem to recall candidate trump telling his audience, "I'm so rich". And then the base of the gop falls for the con man's schtick and votes for the east coast elitist. The very kind of person they claim to despise.

bongsaway said:

But, but, but didn't donald say he was going to spend his own money he didn't need any donors? I seem to recall candidate trump telling his audience, "I'm so rich". And then the base of the gop falls for the con man's schtick and votes for the east coast elitist. The very kind of person they claim to despise.

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Nope, He never said any of that. Where were you when he started his voter donation site the day he stated he was running for office? Not to mention here you are with yet another whataboutism.

Trump said he wasn't supported or owned by any lobbyist. But its your lie, you can tell it any way you want.