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Little by little, people are starting to figure out things out.

enderpotato00 said:
The far left has hijacked the Democratic Party, while the far right has hijacked the Republican Party. We need moderates again.
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There is a reason I push third party voting.

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Luther said:
And how ya doing with that?
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Every year more people are voting third party, and third party candidates are on more ballots.

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maquiscat said:
Every year more people are voting third party, and third party candidates are on more ballots.

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And every year they get blown out by the two powerhouses

Creating other parties does not solve our real ill's, and that is our very citizenry itself
 
maquiscat said:
Nobody says all conservatives/Trump support are racist, and yet there it was ....

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what are you smoking? lots of dems say all conservatives are all racist all the time, on here in fact.
 
maquiscat said:
Every year more people are voting third party, and third party candidates are on more ballots.

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Creating other parties does not solve our real ill's, and that is our very citizenry itself
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You don't believe me do you?


 
Good4Nothin said:
He's a Marxist, but his power as president would be very limited. He would just push it a little more in that direction, but you don't have to worry about him turning this country communist.
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Yeah except the Democrats despise the constitution and I wouldn’t put it past Sanders to go full dictatorial. However he doesn’t need to do that, he can set Antifa on conservatives and order the justice department to stand down. Like in Spain before the civil war and Chile before the coup, Bernie’s radical followers can be freed to commit terrorism in the hopes of provoking a right wing reaction and then declare a state of emergency
 
Luther said:
So instead of Trump losing the popular vote by 3 million in 2016, it will only be 2 million this time(LOL)
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The electoral college was created because we are STATES and not Europe and they didn't want the most populous states to always get the president they wanted. I bet you that if the West Coast always voted Republican, the left would NOT want the popular vote to decide who is president all the time.

But......this lady is 100% right. The Dems are screwed. NO ONE will beat Trump in November. he is a human dynamo at campaigning. No matter who the Democratic candidate is, their rallies will be a high school gym compared to Trump's football stadiums overflowing into the streets. Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, Mark Zaid, Vindman KNOW this and this is the reason why they tried to impeach him. Like her, they watched his rallies and said ......

We're SCREWED!!
 
Chomsky said:
Yeah, but those online knitting groups with their roving bands of social justice warriors! I'm shaking in my boots!
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Online knitting groups?

Do you know anything about knitting societies?

They do exist, my Aunt belongs to one.

Simply do an online search as to their existence. In fact, simply google College Knitting Societies and you will find a number of them listed around the country.

If you think that all they talk about is new yarns and how to do a particular stitch, they you have another think coming.

They sit around and talk while they knit. Such conversations can be extremely political, and like any other group of people who get together on a regular basis, they can form strong shared opinions.

They can also be active on those opinions, and as they already have an organized social group, they can act as a group if it suits their ideals.

So I did not find that young lady's comments very surprising at all. Her comments are not ludicrous simply because she is a member of, and knows activists who are members of, knitting societies.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
One would hope so.

But as the woman in the video points out, echo-chambers are not listening, and they keep trying to drown any opposition out.

As long as they continue to have the support of the MSM, such propaganda can work miracles on the minds of "the masses."

Call someone a demon often enough, and people will come to believe it.
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Finally someone from the left that actually recognizing what is wrong with the leftist party today.
I wish it would have finished her going to the rally. i am sure she was met with open arms and welcomed like most people are
at a trump rally.

All of the hate and violence spouted by these extremist are starting to turn normal reasonable people off. You can tell they are
out of control when they start consuming their own. it is the sign of the most unhealthiest of mentalities.
 
eohrnberger said:
While I would like to share in your optimism I think it needs to be tempered with the fact that some 30% of Democrat voters are supporting:

  • a life long communist who calls himself a 'Democratic Socialist', and yet won't define his use of the term
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  • That's a lie. Bernie defines it at just about every debate.
    Political positions of Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia
    Sanders identified his conception of "democratic socialism" with Franklin D. Roosevelt's proposal for a Second Bill of Rights,[6][7] saying that democratic socialism means creating "an economy that works for all, not just the very wealthy," reforming the political system (which Sanders says is "grossly unfair" and "in many respects, corrupt"), recognizing health care and education as rights, protecting the environment, and creating a "vibrant democracy based on the principle of one person, one vote."[8] He explained that democratic socialism is not tied to Marxism or the abolition of capitalism but rather describes a program of extensive social benefits, funded by broad-based taxes.[9]

    In short, DSs are basically FDR dems. That's it. Noam Chomsky, and an actual socialist, even confirmed it.
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    [*]falsely claims some Northern European nations are 'socialist', when they themselves claim they are capitalist
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    "Socialism" is a term so watered down over the years, it's practically lost it's meaning, so to call Bernie "falsely claims", is really a bogus argument. By Bernie's own definition of democratic socialism, that DS is basically FDR capitalism, Bernie is correct.

    But republicans disingenuously want to call him a liar because Bernie's popular use of the term does not agree with the classic definition.


    [*]one who has yet to refute or revise his earlier public statements of wanting to nationalize many key industries, turning the means of production over to the state
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    Another lie.

    Bernie Sanders
    "In his career as a US Senator, Sanders has backed away from such ardent calls for nationalization, but maintained similar rhetoric on wealth inequality. In one 2015 speech, he said he didn't want the government to take over private business or 'own the means of production.' "

    [*]one who wishes to impose ever more federal government control over both the states and the electorate
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    "the electorate" what does that even mean?

    Bernie favors just regulation, as do all dems. You're just fearmongering here.

    [*]one who wishes to steal 1st, 2nd, 4th and 6th amendment rights from the electorate
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    Evidence, please of "theft".

    [*]one who's plans are to expand federal government spending to some $96T over the next 10 years, some 4x the current federal tax income
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    maybe according to some alt - right economists. Middle class will have more disposable income under M4A. Premiums will be eliminated, and the taxes spread across the board, leaning far more heavily on those who can afford it. In short, the removal of premiums will result in a net savings for the middle class, despite increased taxes. Also in the savings mix is preventing pharma from ripping off the nation.
    [*]one who has been living on public money all his life, and hasn't produced or contributed a single thing that holds value, not even a single significant bill in his many decades in public office
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    This is a disingenuous statement. "living off public money", implies "welfare" which is a lie. Bernie's big ideas have taken a long time to take hold, but of late, he has singlehandely reshaped the Democratic party's platform more than any other person in the DNC. That is his major accomplishment. And now that the left is going his way, he will be in a position to effect change, if elected. In the past, republicans and moderates have blocked him, so it's understandable. Another 'thing of value' which all senators ( or most, but definitely Bernie ) is to vote in the senate and congress, and he's done that throughout his career.

    But the right are famous for lying, for example, they are saying dem congress are "do nothing", which is a lie given that over 400 bills (no doubt many of which are inspired by Bernie and AOC's positions on policy ) are sitting on McConnell's desk, which he is ignoring. The real do nothings are the republicans in the senate.

    All this is seriously, and legitimately worrying, should he succeed in being elected to high office. How does someone with such a life history represent the nation?
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    Yeah, I accept that the right is worried about Bernie. What they should be worried about is Trump being reelected.
 
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maquiscat said:
Nobody says all conservatives/Trump support are racist, and yet there it was ....

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Once again, another mindless deflection and the refusal or inability to address the statement. Never miss an opportunity to attack the president while defending the Socialist agenda of the DEMONcrat part.
 
OscarLevant said:
That's a lie. Bernie defines it at just about every debate.
"Socialism" is a term so watered down over the years, it's practically lost it's meaning, so to call Bernie "falsely claims", is really a bogus argument. By Bernie's own definition of democratic socialism, that DS is basically FDR capitalism, Bernie is correct.

But republicans disingenuously want to call him a liar because Bernie's popular use of the term does not agree with the classic definition.
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Sanders is a self proclaimed socialist which means he believes in everything that it entails. which is government controlled means of production and that
there are massive social programs funded by taxpayers. that is the core belief of a socialist.

"In his career as a US Senator, Sanders has backed away from such ardent calls for nationalization, but maintained similar rhetoric on wealth inequality. In one 2015 speech, he said he didn't want the government to take over private business or 'own the means of production.' "
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Let me know when he gives up his 6 houses. *yawn* so tire of the live like i say not as i do leftist hacks.

Bernie favors just regulation, as do all dems. You're just fearmongering here.
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You will find that most republican support common sense regulations like you can't send raw sewage into a river.
what we don't support is stuff like your yard is now a wetland because it gets an 1nch of standing water when it rains hard.

Evidence, please of "theft".
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the first amendment covers a lot of things from free speech to religious freedom (something loathed by the left) to freedom of press to freedom to gather.
we all know that democrats are anti-gun and when it comes to guns have no clue what they are talking about.
the other 2 need a bit more explanation i agree. however the democrats have become the party of your guilty until you prove yourself innocent. that is kind of scary actually.

maybe according to some alt - right economists. Middle class will have more disposable income under M4A. Premiums will be eliminated, and the taxes spread across the board, leaning far more heavily on those who can afford it. In short, the removal of premiums will result in a net savings for the middle class, despite increased taxes. Also in the savings mix is preventing pharma from ripping off the nation.
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So far the estimated cost of bernie's healthcare plan is about 34 trillion. I would add another 10% for overhead which would be ~40 trillion. even with cost saving factored in that would only lower it by 15-20 trillion. that means there is at least 20-25 trillion in NEW spending. Other options that on their own could fund Medicare for All, according to the study, include a 25 percent income surtax; a 42 percent value-added tax on consumption; a move to more than double all individual and corporate tax rates; or, more likely, a combination of taxes.

The report estimated that taxing the rich, corporations and the financial sector could cover only one-third of the total cost on its own.

This is a disingenuous statement. "living off public money", implies "welfare" which is a lie. Bernie's big ideas have taken a long time to take hold, but of late, he has singlehandely reshaped the Democratic party's platform more than any other person in the DNC.
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ACtually it isn't a lie. his own friends and people that knew him said that he lived pretty poor. He would have required federal assistance or state assistance. as he never really had a job. he did odd end stuff here and there but his main work was being a politician. Bernie's big idea are all failures that have already been seen and done. they don't work in real life.
There isn't a lie there. he has lived off the public dime his whole life.

But the right are famous for lying, for example, they are saying dem congress are "do nothing", which is a lie given that over 400 bills (no doubt many of which are inspired by Bernie and AOC's positions on policy ) are sitting on McConnell's desk, which he is ignoring. The real do nothings are the republicans in the senate.
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400 pieces of crap just to say you wrote bills is not doing something. most of refer to it as busy work. it is doing something to make it look like you are doing something when you are not.


Yeah, I accept that the right is worried about Bernie. What they should be worried about is Trump being reelected.
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not at all i am not worried about trump getting re-elected. With trump i get to keep more of the money i work for so i can provide for my
family.

under sanders i will be severely crippled in how i can support my family.
mainly because he wants to take the bulk of my income and send it to the government.
I can't afford all of bernie's free stuff.
 
Moonglow said:
The author of the tape is a know person who creates stories he doesn't report on them.
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Ok so you can't tell us what was fake about it thanks for letting us know.
It seemed that there were 2 real people having a real conversation
so there was nothing fake about it.

you would need to prove that 1 of the two people were lying.
 
ludin said:
Ok so you can't tell us what was fake about it thanks for letting us know.
It seemed that there were 2 real people having a real conversation
so there was nothing fake about it.

you would need to prove that 1 of the two people were lying.
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Get me the raw footage before editing and I can show you.
 
Moonglow said:
Get me the raw footage before editing and I can show you.
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sorry that is up to your to prove your case not me. you said it was fake you have 0 proof that it was fake.
so have a nice day.
 
ludin said:
sorry that is up to your to prove your case not me. you said it was fake you have 0 proof that it was fake.
so have a nice day.
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Glenn is no longer on TV because of his fake veneer but you may lap up his piss productions all you like.
 
Moonglow said:
Glenn is no longer on TV because of his fake veneer but you may lap up his piss productions all you like.
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*yawn*
thanks for playing.
 
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