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George Zimmerman sues Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren over tweets honouring Trayvon Martin

Hawkeye10 said:
Told by a 911 operator, who had no legal authority, Zimmerman was under no obligation to follow that advice.
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But the thing is.....He should have followed that advice
 
Royal PITA said:
Sad but true. OTOH, if Martin hadn't been cutting classes and smoking pot, he wouldn't have been kicked out of his school and out of his house to go "visit" his father.
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Yeah, if only he was not a black kid walking home from the store in a white neighborhood.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Told by a 911 operator, who had no legal authority, Zimmerman was under no obligation to follow that advice.
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Glad to see you agree he was playing superhero. If he had followed that simple advice there would be no dead bodies, and no ridiculous threads about Zimmerman's victimhood.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Pandering to a voter identity group using fake racism nonsense - the vast majority of racial minority US crime victims (of which Trayvon Martin was not - see the definition of acquitted) are killed by other racial minority perps.
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American said:
George Zimmerman sues Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren over tweets honouring Trayvon Martin

Time for Democrats to help us relive the incident that Obama used to vastly worsen the racial divide in America. Buttigieg and Warren are jackasses.
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OP's and Responses like the above (and too many more to list in a single post) really show how easily triggered conservative white guys have become over the last decade, or so.

You people literally lost your minds over the reality of simply dealing with an African-American POTUS.

And, quite clearly, many of you still haven't recovered.
 
Citizen said:
But the thing is.....He should have followed that advice
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Why? Zimmerman was a wannabe police officer, and he had taken some training from the police as a neighborhood watch leader....he had every reason to suspect that his knowledge was better than that of some random 911 operator that he did not know.
 
JMR said:
Glad to see you agree he was playing superhero. If he had followed that simple advice there would be no dead bodies, and no ridiculous threads about Zimmerman's victimhood.
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He took seriously his promise to help protect his neighborhood, a neighborhood that had for years seen a lot of crime, with the police never successfully dealing with it....I never disputed this.
 
JMR said:
Actually one witness reported that there was a whimpering sound that stopped with the sound of a gun shot. She thought it was Martin.
The evidence did not contradict Zimmerman (being in Florida and all) it did not confirm his account.

Zimmerman was told to get in his car by the police.
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So why did the jury accept his account?


No, the police didn't tell him to get in his car. Again, did Zimmerman do anything illegal?
 
JMR said:
That is not an incorrect statement. Zimmerman was asked if he was following Martin. He said yes. He was told not to do so, and to get in his car.

I'm claiming that Zimmerman panicked while playing superhero and shot Trayvon. Are you claiming he is some kind of victims?
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When you can actually quote that, I'll believe it.....but I know you can't. Have you even read the transcript or are you going by some other "source"?

Forensics doesn't back up your claim but it does Zimmerman's.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
And water is wet.

How is that relevant? Most Whits are killed by other Whites. Most Asians are killed by other Asians.

If Treyvon where a White kid and some Black fake cop grown man stalked him and killed him there is no way we get the same result. I guess self-defense is only for White people...
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You might want to look up the legal definition of stalking.

Also, black cops have killed white kids. Seeing you deny it is interesting, but not the first time on this thread I've seen anti-gun, pro-Martin people distort the truth.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Why? Zimmerman was a wannabe police officer, and he had taken some training from the police as a neighborhood watch leader....he had every reason to suspect that his knowledge was better than that of some random 911 operator that he did not know.
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Excuses, excuses
 
American said:
George Zimmerman sues Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren over tweets honouring Trayvon Martin

Time for Democrats to help us relive the incident that Obama used to vastly worsen the racial divide in America. Buttigieg and Warren are jackasses.
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I live near where that incident happened. Zimmerman called the cops and told them he was following martin. The cops told him to stop following him, he didn't and martin ended up dead and yet you support zimmerman?

He stalked the kid and killed him. Is the right so lost you folks now support this and and call the two politicians jackasses for remembering that sad day.

Just wow.
 
WillyPete said:
Even more basically, he didn't refer to Zimmerman at all.

That Zimmerman wasn't convicted of anything doesn't mean Martin's death wasn't an avoidable tragedy Zimmerman played a part in.

Both of them had opportunities to deescalate or disengage, but neither did.

We've taken the wrong lessons from this event.
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Stop being reasonable.
 
j brown's body said:
The irony is that if Martin had been armed and shot Zimmerman because he felt an imminent threat, he'd be a right-wing hero. But he was Black and responded with fists instead of a gun, so he deserved to die.
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If martin had been armed and shot zimmerman, martin would be sitting in jail for some degree of murder or manslaughter. Who disagrees?
 
JMR said:
Actually one witness reported that there was a whimpering sound that stopped with the sound of a gun shot. She thought it was Martin.
The evidence did not contradict Zimmerman (being in Florida and all) it did not confirm his account.

Zimmerman was told to get in his car by the police.
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Correct. There were no eyewitnesses. I live nearby, zimmerman stalked and killed the kid, period. All we have is zimmerman's account but his own words actually convict him of at least stalking. The cops told him to stop following martin, he didn't and martin ended up killed. What's not to understand?
 
straykatz said:
Did he specifically name Zimmerman? Nope...and Zimmerman should know better than anyone that you can't convict on a presumption...if that were true he would be behind bars because most presumed him guilty as hell.
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You don't have to specifically name someone if it's obvious who is being referenced.
 
Royal PITA said:
Let me know what crimes Zimmerman broke so we can discuss this logically.
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You're seeking an argument that doesn't exist. The results of the trial were correct, legally. There was never sufficient evidence to charge Zimmerman, never mind convict him.

But, as I'm sure you're aware, legal =/= moral. Should we pretend that because he broke no laws, he is blameless?

Zimmerman and Martin both acted poorly, but Zimmerman created the situation and escalated at every opportunity. He accepted (thrust upon himself, more like) a responsibility he was not competent to perform. In his efforts to "protect" his neighborhood, he killed a kid from that same neighborhood.
 
Fishking said:
You don't have to specifically name someone if it's obvious who is being referenced.
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Please, look at the tweats being discussed, and help us see the obvious reference to Zimmerman.

“Trayvon Martin would have been 25 today,”
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“How many 25th birthdays have been stolen from us by white supremacy, gun violence, prejudice, and fear?#BlackLivesMatter.”
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Where are you hanging your lawsuit?

Zimmerman stated that he was afraid for his life, it is the crux of his self-defense rationale. These tweats aren't even contrary to his own legal position in his trial.

As best as I can tell, Zimmerman is reacting to the voices in his head that explain to him regularly that what he did was wrong (not illegal, wrong.)
 
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WillyPete said:
You're seeking an argument that doesn't exist. The results of the trial were correct, legally. There was never sufficient evidence to charge Zimmerman, never mind convict him.

But, as I'm sure you're aware, legal =/= moral. Should we pretend that because he broke no laws, he is blameless?

Zimmerman and Martin both acted poorly, but Zimmerman created the situation and escalated at every opportunity. He accepted (thrust upon himself, more like) a responsibility he was not competent to perform. In his efforts to "protect" his neighborhood, he killed a kid from that same neighborhood.
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Correct. Just like Obama interfering; legal but not moral for a President to take sides before a trial. It's unlikely Zimmerman would have been charged if not for Obama's interference.
 
Royal PITA said:
Correct. Just like Obama interfering; legal but not moral for a President to take sides before a trial. It's unlikely Zimmerman would have been charged if not for Obama's interference.
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You have no way of knowing that. There was a massive public outcry over the audio recordings (many thought the piteously cries begging for help came from Martin, at first.)

I'd also challenge you to produce the statement where you think Obama took sides.
 
WillyPete said:
You have no way of knowing that. There was a massive public outcry over the audio recordings (many thought the piteously cries begging for help came from Martin, at first.)
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The outcry was fanned by Obama as you should recall.
 
Royal PITA said:
The outcry was fanned by Obama as you should recall.
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I recall massive demonstrations when they initially announced there would be no charges. Where Obama was in that I don't recall. I don't find it particularly interesting or relevant either as his comments were pretty mild.

Maybe Zimmerman should sue Obama next. I'm sure that will bring him closure, so he doesn't feel the need to lash out every time someone mentions the kid he killed while "protecting the neighborhood."
 
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