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trump going insane - or insanely corrupt - abusing pardon power

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From early in his time in office, trump has shown he will abuse the pardon power to pardon famous convictions who especially deserve the convictions; including betraying his promise to be against 'immunity for the elites' and corruption.

His first pardon was the infamous Joe Arpaio, a corrupt Sheriff and national right-wing darling.

His third was the infamous Scooter Libby, who had already wrongly avoided jail with a commutation by Bush, for lying about his role in exposing a CIA officer as political punishment to her husband, who had exposed Bush lying about an argument in the Iraq war.

His fifth was the infamous right-wing propagandist Dinesh D'Souza, one of whose propaganda pieces attacked Hillary in the campaign.

His sixth and seventh were of the far-right militants who had made national news seizing a federal building, convicted of arson.

His eighth was of a soldier who had murdered an Iraqi man in US custody.

November 15, he pardoned two more soldiers who had murdered Afghan people. Etc.

But now, the 'unleashed' trump has gone nuts with the corrupt pardons.

Some of the most famous, justified convictions are being commuted (for the Democrat) and pardoned (for the Republicans).

Remember the governor who abused his power to appoint a Senator by selling it, Rob Blagojevich? Can't have politicians punished for THAT, trump must think - commuted, over the objection of Illinois Republicans.

The most infamous Wall Street 'junk bond' conviction, Michael Milken? Pardoned.

Rudy's terrible corrupt former police chief and partner in crime, who Bush had crazily appointed to head the new Department of Homeland Security, before he was disgraced and convicted, Bernie Kerik? Pardonedd.

Even the former owner of the San Francisco 49'ers.

CNN has a good article discussing the apparent reasons behind some of the more well-known recipients:

The common thread of these moves isn't partisanship or Trump's commitment to criminal justice reform or anything like that. It's far simpler: It's that these individuals had friends in high places, friends who argued for Trump to use his unique presidential pardon power to make their problems go away.

Now, none of that is to say that the people Trump pardoned weren't deserving of it. (The debate over how long served is "right" and sentencing guidelines is for another piece.) It is to say that the reason that people like Blagojevich or Milken or Kerik came to Trump's attention is because they had high-profile friends advocating for them and/or Trump has seen them (or their cases) on TV.

Take the Blagojevich case. Here's how Trump explained his decision to commute the former Illinois governor who was convicted of attempting to sell an appointment to a vacant US Senate seat:

"We have commuted the sentence of Rod Blagojevich. He served eight years in jail -- a long time. I watched his wife on television, I don't know him very well, I've met him a couple of times. He was on for a short while on 'The Apprentice' years ago. He's very far from his children, they're growing older, they're going to high school now. They don't get to see their father outside of an orange uniform. I saw that and I did commute his sentence. So he'll be able to go back home with his family after serving eight years in jail. That was a tremendously powerful, ridiculous sentence in my opinion and in the opinion of many others. ... It was a prosecution by the same people -- Comey, Fitzpatrick -- the same group."

He said the quiet part out loud! "I watched his wife on television." Yes! He did! Because Patti Blagojevich went on Fox News -- the home channel of the President -- over the last few years to plead the case for her husband, the former Democratic governor. (She also called the Russia investigation a "witch hunt" just in case you were wondering whether she was directly appealing to Trump or not.)

Here's the secret to getting a Trump presidential pardon - CNNPolitics
 
Trumps argument is that the justice system is corrupt (it is) and thus those who violate the dictates of DeepState/The Swamp/The Uniparty/The Failed Intelligentsia are treated more harshly than are those who sing the songs they are told to sing. Trump sees himself of righting the scales a bit, he sees himself as promoting fairness, promoting justice.
 
Trump sees himself of righting the scales a bit, he sees himself as promoting fairness, promoting justice.

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Trumps argument is that the justice system is corrupt (it is) and thus those who violate the dictates of DeepState/The Swamp/The Uniparty/The Failed Intelligentsia are treated more harshly than are those who sing the songs they are told to sing. Trump sees himself of righting the scales a bit, he sees himself as promoting fairness, promoting justice.

No, he's bailing out his buddies, covering his own fat orange @$$, and he knows it. Yes, he probably sees it as 'fair' but not really righting any genuine wrongs; rather like the tax-dodging, he thinks he can get away with it because he's 'smart'. In reality, it's just that the Senate refuses to hold him to account because it's afraid of his voters.
 
This DOJ list is for pardons only!

Here are a few from the list:

Pardons Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017)

Pardons Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017)

James Robert Adelman

Offense:
Conspiracy to embezzle by trustee or officer; embezzlement by trustee (five counts); making a false account (Northern District of Oklahoma)

Sentence:


12 years' imprisonment; $350,000 restitution (February 27, 1989)


John Clyde Anderson

Offense:
Conspiracy to import a controlled substance (Southern District of California)

Sentence:


Three years’ imprisonment, suspended; three years’ probation, conditioned upon six months’ confinement; two years’ special parole (August 21, 1972)


Zachary James Ray Anderson

Offense:
Conspiracy to defraud the United States by knowingly and without lawful authority producing false identification documents (Western District of Kentucky)

Sentence:


15 months' imprisonment; two years' supervised release (April 17, 2003)


Octavio Joaquin Armenteros, aka Octavio Joaquin Armenteros-Iglesias

Offense:
Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine (Middle District of Florida)

Sentence:


46 months' imprisonment; three years' supervised release (November 3, 1995)


Stephen Lee Arrington

Offense:
Conspiracy to distribute cocaine; distribution of cocaine (Central District of California)

Sentence:


Three years' imprisonment, three years' special parole (September 2, 1983) (as amended July 24, 1985)


John R. Barker, aka Johnnie Ray Barker

Offense:
Illegal acquisition and possession of food stamp coupons (Northern District of Iowa)

Sentence:


Two years' probation; $250 restitution (November 23, 1983)


Yolanda DeAnn Beck

Offense:
Distribution of cocaine base (Central District of Illinois)

Sentence:


30 months' imprisonment; three years' supervised release; $100 restitution (June 2, 1995)


Lisa Ann Bell, fka Lisa Ann Link

Offense:
Misprision of conspiracy to possess cocaine with intent to distribute (Northern District of Georgia)

Sentence:


15 months' imprisonment; one year of supervised release, conditioned upon 80 hours of community service (February 10, 2003)


Herbert Eugene Bennett

Offense:
Mail fraud; making and subscribing to a false tax return (three counts) (Northern District of Texas)

Sentence:


Three years' probation, conditioned upon nine months' home confinement; $3,000 fine; $26,440.95 restitution (July 2, 1996)


Carrie Ann Burris

Offense:
Conspiracy to import 50 grams or more of a mixture and substance containing a detectable amount of methamphetamine (District of New Mexico)
 
Just a few from the list!


Commutations Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017)

Commutations Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017)

Abdulmuntaqim Ad-Deen

Offense:


Possession with intent to distribute cocaine base

District/Date:


District of Maryland; October 8, 2008

Sentence:
235 months' imprisonment; five years' supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to a term of 180 months' imprisonment, conditioned upon enrollment in residential drug treatment


Lesly Alexis

Offense:


Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute more than five kilograms of cocaine powder and more than 50 grams of cocaine base

District/Date:


Northern District of Florida; July 29, 2003

Sentence:
384 months' imprisonment; five years' supervised release; $1,000 fine

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to a term of 262 months' imprisonment


Gary J. Anderson

Offense:


Possession with intent to distribute MDMA; distribution of MDMA

District/Date:


District of Massachusetts; March 16, 2009

Sentence:
240 months' imprisonment; 10 years' supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to expire on July 18, 2017


Terry Anderson

Offense:


Conspiracy to manufacture and distribute methamphetamine; conspiracy to launder money

District/Date:


Eastern District of Texas; May 1, 1997

Sentence:
360 months' imprisonment; five years' supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to expire on January 19, 2019, conditioned upon enrollment in residential drug treatment


Kevin Lavon Andrews

Offense:


Carrying or possessing a firearm in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime; possession with the intent to distribute 50 grams or more of crack cocaine

District/Date:


Middle District of Florida; February 11, 2009

Sentence:
300 months' imprisonment; 120 months' supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to a term of 156 months' imprisonment, conditioned upon enrollment in residential drug treatment


Daniel Ary, Jr.

Offense:


Possession with intent to distribute; possession of a firearm in relation to drug trafficking

District/Date:


Western District of Louisiana; March 6, 2008

Sentence:
180 months' imprisonment; eight years' supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to expire on May 19, 2017


Demetrius S. Autery

Offense:


Possession with the intent to distribute 50 grams or more of cocaine base

District/Date:


Middle District of Florida; April 4, 2007

Sentence:
240 months' imprisonment; 10 years' supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to expire on May 19, 2017


Connie Avalos

Offense:


Conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine

District/Date:


Eastern District of Kentucky; November 30, 2009

Sentence:
Life imprisonment; no supervised release term

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to a term of 235 months, conditioned upon enrollment in residential drug abuse treatment


Derrick L. Baines

Offense:


Possession with intent to distribute 50 grams or more of crack cocaine

District/Date:


Western District of Louisiana; June 27, 2006

Sentence:
240 months’ imprisonment; 10 years’ supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to expire on January 19, 2019, conditioned upon enrollment in residential drug treatment


Tonya Barney

Offense:


Possession of methamphetamine with intent to distribute

District/Date:


District of Utah; June 10, 2010

Sentence:
204 months’ imprisonment; 10 years’ supervised release

Terms of grant:


Prison sentence commuted to expire on January 19, 2019, conditioned upon enrollment in residential drug abuse treatment
 
No, he's bailing out his buddies, covering his own fat orange @$$, and he knows it. Yes, he probably sees it as 'fair' but not really righting any genuine wrongs; rather like the tax-dodging, he thinks he can get away with it because he's 'smart'. In reality, it's just that the Senate refuses to hold him to account because it's afraid of his voters.

That is the story told by the corporate media, the propagandizers... which is obviously wrong because Trump has nothing to gain by these acts other than doing good work for the nation.
 
See how it works? Obama was a caring, compassionate president when he used pardons and commutations.
Trump does it and he is the mean orange man. Bad Trump, Bad Trump! :peace
 
From early in his time in office, trump has shown he will abuse the pardon power to pardon famous convictions who especially deserve the convictions; including betraying his promise to be against 'immunity for the elites' and corruption.

His first pardon was the infamous Joe Arpaio, a corrupt Sheriff and national right-wing darling.

His third was the infamous Scooter Libby, who had already wrongly avoided jail with a commutation by Bush, for lying about his role in exposing a CIA officer as political punishment to her husband, who had exposed Bush lying about an argument in the Iraq war.

His fifth was the infamous right-wing propagandist Dinesh D'Souza, one of whose propaganda pieces attacked Hillary in the campaign.

His sixth and seventh were of the far-right militants who had made national news seizing a federal building, convicted of arson.

His eighth was of a soldier who had murdered an Iraqi man in US custody.

November 15, he pardoned two more soldiers who had murdered Afghan people. Etc.

But now, the 'unleashed' trump has gone nuts with the corrupt pardons.

Some of the most famous, justified convictions are being commuted (for the Democrat) and pardoned (for the Republicans).

Remember the governor who abused his power to appoint a Senator by selling it, Rob Blagojevich? Can't have politicians punished for THAT, trump must think - commuted, over the objection of Illinois Republicans.

The most infamous Wall Street 'junk bond' conviction, Michael Milken? Pardoned.

Rudy's terrible corrupt former police chief and partner in crime, who Bush had crazily appointed to head the new Department of Homeland Security, before he was disgraced and convicted, Bernie Kerik? Pardonedd.

Even the former owner of the San Francisco 49'ers.

CNN has a good article discussing the apparent reasons behind some of the more well-known recipients:



Here's the secret to getting a Trump presidential pardon - CNNPolitics

You know it's literally impossible for the president to abuse his pardon power. Right?

There's no standard, anywhere, stating who can and can't receive a presidential pardon for a Federal crime.
 
Trumps argument is that the justice system is corrupt (it is) and thus those who violate the dictates of DeepState/The Swamp/The Uniparty/The Failed Intelligentsia are treated more harshly than are those who sing the songs they are told to sing. Trump sees himself of righting the scales a bit, he sees himself as promoting fairness, promoting justice.

Most of the sane world sees Trump as a lunatic.
 
I hate to see the pardon/commutation power used by a president or a governor. If I had my way this is one power that elected officials would not have.
 
It appears to me, that while Democrats try to explain the difference between justice and corruption to Republicans, it's a waste of time, because there is no difference to them. The most utterly corrupt act to protect a Republican from justice is, for Republicans, what justice is. And wrongly persecuting a Democrat, would be justified. It's how they think.
 
Trumps argument is that the justice system is corrupt (it is) and thus those who violate the dictates of DeepState/The Swamp/The Uniparty/The Failed Intelligentsia are treated more harshly than are those who sing the songs they are told to sing. Trump sees himself of righting the scales a bit, he sees himself as promoting fairness, promoting justice.

All about fighting corruption in Ukraine and rewarding it in America.

Whodathinkit?

Oh yeah.

Anybody paying attention.
 
From early in his time in office, trump has shown he will abuse the pardon power to pardon famous convictions who especially deserve the convictions; including betraying his promise to be against 'immunity for the elites' and corruption.

His first pardon was the infamous Joe Arpaio, a corrupt Sheriff and national right-wing darling.

His third was the infamous Scooter Libby, who had already wrongly avoided jail with a commutation by Bush, for lying about his role in exposing a CIA officer as political punishment to her husband, who had exposed Bush lying about an argument in the Iraq war.

His fifth was the infamous right-wing propagandist Dinesh D'Souza, one of whose propaganda pieces attacked Hillary in the campaign.

His sixth and seventh were of the far-right militants who had made national news seizing a federal building, convicted of arson.

His eighth was of a soldier who had murdered an Iraqi man in US custody.

November 15, he pardoned two more soldiers who had murdered Afghan people. Etc.

But now, the 'unleashed' trump has gone nuts with the corrupt pardons.

Some of the most famous, justified convictions are being commuted (for the Democrat) and pardoned (for the Republicans).

Remember the governor who abused his power to appoint a Senator by selling it, Rob Blagojevich? Can't have politicians punished for THAT, trump must think - commuted, over the objection of Illinois Republicans.

The most infamous Wall Street 'junk bond' conviction, Michael Milken? Pardoned.

Rudy's terrible corrupt former police chief and partner in crime, who Bush had crazily appointed to head the new Department of Homeland Security, before he was disgraced and convicted, Bernie Kerik? Pardonedd.

Even the former owner of the San Francisco 49'ers.

CNN has a good article discussing the apparent reasons behind some of the more well-known recipients:



Here's the secret to getting a Trump presidential pardon - CNNPolitics

I don't know if he's insane. Without a doubt he's as dumb as a rock.
 
Trumps argument is that the justice system is corrupt (it is) and thus those who violate the dictates of DeepState/The Swamp/The Uniparty/The Failed Intelligentsia are treated more harshly than are those who sing the songs they are told to sing. Trump sees himself of righting the scales a bit, he sees himself as promoting fairness, promoting justice.

Many folk live in delusions, doesn't mean those imagined worlds are real.
 
Most of the sane world sees Trump as a lunatic.

And you don't need to say that to those of us who live in reality. The others, those who worship him as a cult, are a lost cause....pathetic bunch of fools.
 
Most of the sane world sees Trump as a lunatic.

Are you sure? Are you sure it's not the insane world who sees Trump as a lunatic? After all, one would suppose the insane would see only the insanity in a person.
 
That is the story told by the corporate media, the propagandizers... which is obviously wrong because Trump has nothing to gain by these acts other than doing good work for the nation.

Except of course signalling to anybody who might testify against trump for a lighter sentence that they have nothing to worry about, Daddy trump will save them.
 
He's corrupt as anything, but neither: he's never had to pay a real price for corruption and he knows his supporters won't exact it, so the strategy is openly "**** you so what?"

As if that isn't a potential death knell.
 
He's not going insane, he IS insane and therefore insanely corrupt. He has proven that repeatedly, long before his latest abuse of pardon power. He's an ignorant, selfish POS who needs to get the boot, in one way or another.

By the word 'going', I didn't mean trump is changing, I mean that his actions are increasing - it's like when you say someone 'went crazy shooting up a mall', it didn't mean that they changed right then, it meant they did an action. Also, the word insane is not only about trump, but about the level of corruption.
 
Trumps argument is that the justice system is corrupt (it is) and thus those who violate the dictates of DeepState/The Swamp/The Uniparty/The Failed Intelligentsia are treated more harshly than are those who sing the songs they are told to sing. Trump sees himself of righting the scales a bit, he sees himself as promoting fairness, promoting justice.

It doesn't matter how Trump sees himself. The sad truth is that he is not intelligent enough to be president of the United States
 
You know it's literally impossible for the president to abuse his pardon power. Right?

There's no standard, anywhere, stating who can and can't receive a presidential pardon for a Federal crime.

That's not quite true... a President could abuse the power by issuing a pardon to encourage someone not to testify against him. Then it could be construed as an obstruction of justice. The recipient of the pardon would also forfeit his/her 5th Amendment right to self-incrimination protection... seeing how they had already received a pardon for the crime.
 
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