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Barr taps network of prosecutors to review Russia-Ukraine cases

Simon W. Moon said:
Someone might be miffed Huber couldn't lock up Kween Killary over Uranium One etc.
So many strike outs.

If they keep trying and trying and trying, eventually they will get something.
Look at how many times and ways they've investigated Clinton.
At some point, they will eventually catch the roadrunner.
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Or they will continue slamming head first into the wall.
 
Mycroft said:
The reason for this is that Barr can't trust the people he has in DC. Too many die-hard Trump haters. Heck, some of them will even sacrifice their careers if it'll get Trump.
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Well I guess if you call anyone who has any respect for the rule of law a "Trump-hater", then I guess you may be right.
 
eohrnberger said:
Kinda like the prosecutorial malfeasance of the Mueller investigation, right?

www.foxnews.com › politics › michael-flynn-lawyer-accuses-prosecutio...
Sep 10, 2019 - Former national security adviser Michael Flynn's legal team indicated in ... are seeking to have the case against him thrown out, accusing the prosecution of "egregious conduct and suppression” of possibly exculpatory evidence. ... DOJ memo that "exonerates" Flynn from being a Russian agent which the ...
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You realize that linking to a defendants attorneys claims and then pretending that they are factual isn't going to convince anyone of anything right? It's a dishonest and bull**** argument on your part. Do better.​
 
chuckiechan said:
I agree.
For some reason ordinary people who have no real power, including the people here should want fair and even handed persecutions. Period. And I don’t see the risk to anyone here beyond their talking points, and if an investigation was found to me more political than criminal why do you defend it? I’ll tell you why: it’s a mountain you can’t climb down from.
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Freudian slip?
 
roughdraft274 said:
Or they will continue slamming head first into the wall.
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Not sure what you mean.

The obstruction cases uncovered in the Mueller report are enough to land him in jail the second he steps out of the whitehouse.

And as far the impeachment trial, don't confuse his acquittal with his innocence. Just ask the GOP senators who acquitted him:

"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a president from office."
-Marco Rubio (R-FL)

“It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation. But the Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate."
-Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
 
roughdraft274 said:
You realize that linking to a defendants attorneys claims and then pretending that they are factual isn't going to convince anyone of anything right? It's a dishonest and bull**** argument on your part. Do better.
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Don't like the truth coming out, eh? :shrug:

Those citations are hardly the only citations supporting the Mueller team's (and their hand picked buddies in the DOJ) prosecutorial malfeasance.

Driving political opponents to bankruptcy with what amounts to government sanctioned and instigated legal harassment now counter as 'proper and responsible prosecution'?
How much are you going to bitch when such cuts against you?

Oh, wait. Have't you already bitched about Barr and Durham investigating the malfeasance in the DOJ, FBI and CIA? I'm guessing you already have.
 
jnug said:
The issue is not who is conducting these "inquiries", investigations, reviews whatever! Its that they are being conducted IT ALL. This nonsense has got to stop. Its only happening at this point to feed Trumpkins disinformation apparatus. Anybody that really thinks Prosecutors will even know what they are looking at needs his head examined. Sort of hard to carry out an actual meaningful "review" when you don't even know what you are looking at.
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Nonsense.

This whole Flynn mess is filled with questions. Missing 302's, edited 302's, threats against family members...the list goes on. It's way past time that SOMEONE oversees the actions of the DOJ prosecutors...and that someone has to be someone out of the Beltway loop.
 
jnug said:
What a load of horse manure. The swamp has gotten deeper and invested with more snakes since Trump has been there than at any other time and Barr is one of the biggest, fattest snakes of them all. Nobody but nobody, not even Tricky Dick and his AG Mitchell have used the DOJ the way Trump/Barr are using it.
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I'll value your opinion for what's it's worth.


Barr pushes back against Trump's criticism of Justice Dept ...
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4 days ago - Attorney General William Barr pushed back hard Thursday against President Donald Trump’s criticism of the Justice Department, saying, “I’m not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody.” ... A senior Justice Department official claimed department leadership was “shocked” at the ...

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4 days ago - Barr pushes back against Trump's criticism of Justice Dept., says tweets 'make it impossible for me to do my job'

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[/URL]4 days ago - During an interview with ABC News on Feb. 13, Attorney General William P. Barr responded to comments made by President Trump ridiculing ...
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I agree with Barr, and Graham, and McConnell, Trump should heed the advice of Barr and stop Tweeting and talking about it publicly. No sense in making it harder on Barr, as Barr has quite a politicized DOJ and FBI mess to clean up after Obama was done with it, politicizing and using them as political weapons.

I'm only hoping that Barr's up to the task required of him, for the good of the nation.
 
Mycroft said:
The reason for this is that Barr can't trust the people he has in DC. Too many die-hard Trump haters. Heck, some of them will even sacrifice their careers if it'll get Trump.
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Political / career suicide vest? Yeah, we've seen thing in the last 3 years, haven't we?
 
ataraxia said:
Well I guess if you call anyone who has any respect for the rule of law a "Trump-hater", then I guess you may be right.
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I don't.

I call someone a Trump hater if they take action designed to damage Trump for no other reason than they hate Trump.
 
Bullseye said:
Absolutely horse ****. First off, the investigation into McCabe that was cancelled was only on the charge he leaked some classified information to the media. There are many other things he'll answer for. Second the DOJ investigation had limited scope and pointed out several issues that require investigations.
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i have my fingers crossed that these traitors will be brought to justice eventually. America cries out for the powerful who ran our government and used their offices in an attempted coup be severely punished.
 
Mycroft said:
I don't.

I call someone a Trump hater if they take action designed to damage Trump for no other reason than they hate Trump.
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Back in April 2018, Trump told the White House counsel that he wanted the Justice Dept to prosecute two of his political adversaries, James Comey and Hillary Clinton. Since Barr took over as Attorney General (of the United States - not of Trump) a year ago, he's been doing exactly what Trump asked him to do.

He has accused the FBI of spying on Trump's campaign. He totally distorted and whitewashed Robert Mueller's report and undermined his investigation into whether Trump obstructed justice. He has meddled in the Roger Stone sentencing recommendations and now has hired two outside prosecutors to review the Michael Flynn case. All these things that Bill Barr has done are not a mistake. The things Bill Barr has done and the things he has written are a reflection of what he believes and who he is, and what he believes is un-American. What he believes is that the president should be above the law. Americans do not believe that the president should be above the law.

People like myself that lived through Watergate became extremely disappointed in our justice system. It was frightening to realize that it had completely failed. Two of our Attorney General's went to prison and all because the president wanted to abuse our system and use it to help him in his election campaign. After Watergate, people needed to be convinced that our country is a country of laws, not of men. After Watergate there were reforms in the Justice Dept and it took a lot to reestablish trust in the government. People needed convincing that 'no man is above the law.'

We're right back where we were in 1974, with an Attorney General that's destroying those protections that were established after Watergate.There is a renewed loss of trust in the Justice Dept because of what Bill Barr is doing. If you're a Trump excuser and a believer that Bill Barr is right, you are participating in a critical and perilous time for our country and you can tell your grandchildren that you stood idly by and watched as the rule of law eroded in this country.
 
Bullseye said:
Absolutely horse ****. First off, the investigation into McCabe that was cancelled was only on the charge he leaked some classified information to the media. There are many other things he'll answer for. Second the DOJ investigation had limited scope and pointed out several issues that require investigations.
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DOJ could not get a GJ indictment.

That is telling, a decent prosecutor as they say could indict a ham sandwich

Just another person subjected to being on the TEL- Trump Enemies List- and good ol Billy can start any investigation he wants.

Now pray tell, what has come of all those investigations
Squat
 
Mycroft said:
Not a conspiracy. Heck, one just sacrificed his career last week.
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So many people.
How do you suppose that they are able to so carefully coordinate everybody?
 
Bullseye said:
Facts and you are not acquainted, are you?
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Please, do inform me of the facts including links/references from verifiable sources.

Start with the “many other things” that you think McCabe will answer for.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
So many people.
How do you suppose that they are able to so carefully coordinate everybody?
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What do you think was coordinated? How many people are you talking about?
 
chuckiechan said:
Barr taps network of prosecutors to review Russia-Ukraine cases | Fox News



Barr appears to be determined to settle the issue of the dual justice system. For that, I applaud. The big problem is everything takes so damn long, the players will all be dead and gone.

It seems to me a single prosecutor should be able to screen a single dependents case in a couple of months.
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What "emerging allegations tied to Ukraine?"

That is the way it goes with the Trump administration. There are always these fathom allegations that are never explained. For five months we heard Trump talk about the crime and corruption of the Bidens. Not once did he ever explain what the hell he was talking about. No one else knows, either.

Now he has his Attorney General looking into "emerging allegations," whatever they are.

As it turns out Barr has set up a channel for Trump's other lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his Ukrainian adventures. Rudy has been investigating the Bidens since last spring. So far we haven't heard a thing other than "emerging allegations."
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Please, do inform me of the facts including links/references from verifiable sources.

Start with the “many other things” that you think McCabe will answer for.
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why should I? Since you're not acquaints with facts, it'll make no difference.
 
JANFU said:
DOJ could not get a GJ indictment.

That is telling, a decent prosecutor as they say could indict a ham sandwich

Just another person subjected to being on the TEL- Trump Enemies List- and good ol Billy can start any investigation he wants.

Now pray tell, what has come of all those investigations
Squat
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Sure, fine, believe whatever you want.
 
eohrnberger said:
Don't like the truth coming out, eh? :shrug:
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Should I just requote my last post since you have utterly failed to address it? You can't just claim that you've made a point because there's other info out there. The info you offered is bull**** arguments from a defense attorney. They mean nothing. But keep pretending if it makes you feel better.
 
Mycroft said:
The reason for this is that Barr can't trust the people he has in DC. Too many die-hard Trump haters. Heck, some of them will even sacrifice their careers if it'll get Trump.
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"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's probably a duck"

Unless you're a conservative media consumer.

Then it's the DEPE STAYT!
 
I wonder if people around here are aware that Barr is required by the FISA court to look at EVERYTHING that was involved in the four Carter Page FISA warrants because at least two of them were based on incorrect/fraudulent information.

To address the consequences of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants the DOJ and FBI informed the court they would begin a process to “sequester” all collected evidence from all four FISA warrants.

If you consider that several DOJ offices may be involved with the material under review, including the Southern District of New York; The Eastern District of New York; The Eastern District of Virginia; The Washington DC District, and even Main Justice itself; it makes sense that outside DOJ personnel would be needed for this review.

Additionally, all of the various FBI field offices who may have used the FISA authorizations as the underpinning evidence to gain separate Title-1 and/or Title-3 warrants, wiretaps or National Security Letters, in their various investigative cases would also need to be reviewed. This is an aspect the media is not discussing while they write opinions about AG Bill Barr bringing in outside DOJ attorneys.

Barr’s “Outside Prosecutors” and the FISC Sequestration Agreement… | The Last Refuge
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So...instead of this false, Trump-hating media driven nonsense about Trump/Barr attacking their opponents, this action is driven by a FISA court order. Barr is simply complying with instructions from the courts.
 
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