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    Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    This is in response to understanding the federal government, and involves both descriptions of my belief of frustrations the general population goes through when trying to understand their federal government and also includes what I experience at times.

    I watch MSNBC all day, and other political content -- and I get frustrated with how complicated it is for the everyday person to understand and follow politics in my opinion. Complicated discussions about legislative priorities, debates, votes, supporters, detractors, and other complicated issues are discussed regularly on political outlets -- and it's frustrating how hard it is for the everyday person to understand what is being talked about from what I can tell.

    The subjects are always over-discussed with using big complicated words, debating over subjects for hours, days, months, or weeks, and involve so many players at times. How can the everyday person ever understand how their government works -- or how it's functioning on their behalf or not?

    It's horrible. I personally go out of my way to try and understand it better, but have a hard time doing so when paying attention to various things being discussed.

    It gets confusing. I get lost at times trying to pay attention to what's going on -- half the time I have a hard time understanding some of the language being used when discussing what's going on, and it makes me feel upset when it happens. How am I supposed to know how my government works well, if it's being discussed so difficultly?

    How can I understand what's being spoken about when it's all so bureaucratic? How can I understand when bureaucratic things in government are being described as bureaucratic using difficult to understand words like bureaucratic?

    How can I understand what's being discussed when easier to understand stand words aren't being used instead? When discussions aren't shorter? They normally are long and complicated. I feel as if most people who have political news or information shown to them don't go out of their way to try and understand it like I have and do.

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    Re: Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Jared View Post
    This is in response to understanding the federal government, and involves both descriptions of my belief of frustrations the general population goes through when trying to understand their federal government and also includes what I experience at times.

    I watch MSNBC all day, and other political content -- and I get frustrated with how complicated it is for the everyday person to understand and follow politics in my opinion. Complicated discussions about legislative priorities, debates, votes, supporters, detractors, and other complicated issues are discussed regularly on political outlets -- and it's frustrating how hard it is for the everyday person to understand what is being talked about from what I can tell.

    The subjects are always over-discussed with using big complicated words, debating over subjects for hours, days, months, or weeks, and involve so many players at times. How can the everyday person ever understand how their government works -- or how it's functioning on their behalf or not?

    It's horrible. I personally go out of my way to try and understand it better, but have a hard time doing so when paying attention to various things being discussed.

    It gets confusing. I get lost at times trying to pay attention to what's going on -- half the time I have a hard time understanding some of the language being used when discussing what's going on, and it makes me feel upset when it happens. How am I supposed to know how my government works well, if it's being discussed so difficultly?

    How can I understand what's being spoken about when it's all so bureaucratic? How can I understand when bureaucratic things in government are being described as bureaucratic using difficult to understand words like bureaucratic?

    How can I understand what's being discussed when easier to understand stand words aren't being used instead? When discussions aren't shorter? They normally are long and complicated. I feel as if most people who have political news or information shown to them don't go out of their way to try and understand it like I have and do.
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    Re: Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Jared View Post
    This is in response to understanding the federal government, and involves both descriptions of my belief of frustrations the general population goes through when trying to understand their federal government and also includes what I experience at times.

    I watch MSNBC all day, and other political content -- and I get frustrated with how complicated it is for the everyday person to understand and follow politics in my opinion. Complicated discussions about legislative priorities, debates, votes, supporters, detractors, and other complicated issues are discussed regularly on political outlets -- and it's frustrating how hard it is for the everyday person to understand what is being talked about from what I can tell.

    The subjects are always over-discussed with using big complicated words, debating over subjects for hours, days, months, or weeks, and involve so many players at times. How can the everyday person ever understand how their government works -- or how it's functioning on their behalf or not?

    It's horrible. I personally go out of my way to try and understand it better, but have a hard time doing so when paying attention to various things being discussed.

    It gets confusing. I get lost at times trying to pay attention to what's going on -- half the time I have a hard time understanding some of the language being used when discussing what's going on, and it makes me feel upset when it happens. How am I supposed to know how my government works well, if it's being discussed so difficultly?

    How can I understand what's being spoken about when it's all so bureaucratic? How can I understand when bureaucratic things in government are being described as bureaucratic using difficult to understand words like bureaucratic?

    How can I understand what's being discussed when easier to understand stand words aren't being used instead? When discussions aren't shorter? They normally are long and complicated. I feel as if most people who have political news or information shown to them don't go out of their way to try and understand it like I have and do.
    Well, this is my opinion of what you are seeing.

    You are not being presented with "news," but rather with political commentary designed to steer you along certain paths into certain points of view.

    The confusion you are experiencing is intentional.

    The presentations are designed to create an impression that those speaking have knowledge you don't, and an understanding that you have yet to grasp. They mix it all up so you come to believe that they know something you should. That since you cannot grasp it, then your lack of comprehension is a personal flaw compelling you to take it on faith that whatever conclusion they arrive at must be true.

    It's the old "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with B.S." playbook.

    The best way to overcome this is to take the time to parse some of the things they are expressing, and then go research them yourself. "Fact-Check," but not using their recommended sources. Follow your own paths, validate their source materials. Educate yourself.
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    Re: Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    It will always be difficult for those without an education in basic civics to comprehend how their own government functions. My advice is to learn something about civics. Preferably before you vote.

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    Re: Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well, this is my opinion of what you are seeing.

    You are not being presented with "news," but rather with political commentary designed to steer you along certain paths into certain points of view.

    The confusion you are experiencing is intentional.

    The presentations are designed to create an impression that those speaking have knowledge you don't, and an understanding that you have yet to grasp. They mix it all up so you come to believe that they know something you should. That since you cannot grasp it, then your lack of comprehension is a personal flaw compelling you to take it on faith that whatever conclusion they arrive at must be true.

    It's the old "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with B.S." playbook.

    The best way to overcome this is to take the time to parse some of the things they are expressing, and then go research them yourself. "Fact-Check," but not using their recommended sources. Follow your own paths, validate their source materials. Educate yourself.
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    Re: Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Jared View Post
    This is in response to understanding the federal government, and involves both descriptions of my belief of frustrations the general population goes through when trying to understand their federal government and also includes what I experience at times.

    I watch MSNBC all day, and other political content -- and I get frustrated with how complicated it is for the everyday person to understand and follow politics in my opinion. Complicated discussions about legislative priorities, debates, votes, supporters, detractors, and other complicated issues are discussed regularly on political outlets -- and it's frustrating how hard it is for the everyday person to understand what is being talked about from what I can tell.

    The subjects are always over-discussed with using big complicated words, debating over subjects for hours, days, months, or weeks, and involve so many players at times. How can the everyday person ever understand how their government works -- or how it's functioning on their behalf or not?

    It's horrible. I personally go out of my way to try and understand it better, but have a hard time doing so when paying attention to various things being discussed.

    It gets confusing. I get lost at times trying to pay attention to what's going on -- half the time I have a hard time understanding some of the language being used when discussing what's going on, and it makes me feel upset when it happens. How am I supposed to know how my government works well, if it's being discussed so difficultly?

    How can I understand what's being spoken about when it's all so bureaucratic? How can I understand when bureaucratic things in government are being described as bureaucratic using difficult to understand words like bureaucratic?

    How can I understand what's being discussed when easier to understand stand words aren't being used instead? When discussions aren't shorter? They normally are long and complicated. I feel as if most people who have political news or information shown to them don't go out of their way to try and understand it like I have and do.
    Stop watching MSNBC. In fact, stop watching ALL of the TV talking potato heads.

    If, like me, you MUST consume political news then choose a couple news aggregate sites...say, one left leaning and one right leaning. Then read what they choose to present to you, but learn to filter the bias. Learn to glean facts and winnow out the nonsense. Once you have the facts, you can easily research them on your own if you have questions about them. But beware...most times you WILL be getting only part of the story and you WILL be getting stuff that is irrelevant to the story.

    Anyway, I disagree with you. Understanding politics isn't really hard nor unfair. It's only made that way by those talking potato heads. They only want to influence useful idiots...you know, people who are like you, except that you want more. Useful idiots don't bother talking about being confused or frustrated. They just say, Okay to everything they hear and see.

    btw, I don't know anything about you...age, education, etc...but I'd say you are at a serious disadvantage if you don't "understand words like bureaucratic". I suggest you keep a dictionary...or a bookmarked dictionary site...at hand when you are checking out those news aggregate sites.

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    Re: Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Jared View Post
    This is in response to understanding the federal government, and involves both descriptions of my belief of frustrations the general population goes through when trying to understand their federal government and also includes what I experience at times.

    I watch MSNBC all day, and other political content -- and I get frustrated with how complicated it is for the everyday person to understand and follow politics in my opinion. Complicated discussions about legislative priorities, debates, votes, supporters, detractors, and other complicated issues are discussed regularly on political outlets -- and it's frustrating how hard it is for the everyday person to understand what is being talked about from what I can tell.

    The subjects are always over-discussed with using big complicated words, debating over subjects for hours, days, months, or weeks, and involve so many players at times. How can the everyday person ever understand how their government works -- or how it's functioning on their behalf or not?

    It's horrible. I personally go out of my way to try and understand it better, but have a hard time doing so when paying attention to various things being discussed.

    It gets confusing. I get lost at times trying to pay attention to what's going on -- half the time I have a hard time understanding some of the language being used when discussing what's going on, and it makes me feel upset when it happens. How am I supposed to know how my government works well, if it's being discussed so difficultly?

    How can I understand what's being spoken about when it's all so bureaucratic? How can I understand when bureaucratic things in government are being described as bureaucratic using difficult to understand words like bureaucratic?

    How can I understand what's being discussed when easier to understand stand words aren't being used instead? When discussions aren't shorter? They normally are long and complicated. I feel as if most people who have political news or information shown to them don't go out of their way to try and understand it like I have and do.
    LOL. I thing conversations are not long enough. We live in an ADD world.

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    Re: Does anyone feel it's unfair how hard it is to understand politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Jared View Post
    This is in response to understanding the federal government, and involves both descriptions of my belief of frustrations the general population goes through when trying to understand their federal government and also includes what I experience at times.

    I watch MSNBC all day, and other political content -- and I get frustrated with how complicated it is for the everyday person to understand and follow politics in my opinion. Complicated discussions about legislative priorities, debates, votes, supporters, detractors, and other complicated issues are discussed regularly on political outlets -- and it's frustrating how hard it is for the everyday person to understand what is being talked about from what I can tell.

    The subjects are always over-discussed with using big complicated words, debating over subjects for hours, days, months, or weeks, and involve so many players at times. How can the everyday person ever understand how their government works -- or how it's functioning on their behalf or not?

    It's horrible. I personally go out of my way to try and understand it better, but have a hard time doing so when paying attention to various things being discussed.

    It gets confusing. I get lost at times trying to pay attention to what's going on -- half the time I have a hard time understanding some of the language being used when discussing what's going on, and it makes me feel upset when it happens. How am I supposed to know how my government works well, if it's being discussed so difficultly?

    How can I understand what's being spoken about when it's all so bureaucratic? How can I understand when bureaucratic things in government are being described as bureaucratic using difficult to understand words like bureaucratic?

    How can I understand what's being discussed when easier to understand stand words aren't being used instead? When discussions aren't shorter? They normally are long and complicated. I feel as if most people who have political news or information shown to them don't go out of their way to try and understand it like I have and do.
    First, don't give so much of your time consuming news. Walk your dog or find a hobby. The 24/7 deluge of news and commentary pretending to be news will still be there when you log on to your computer or turn on your tv.

    Second, find credible sources from across the political bias spectrum, ignoring only the far left/right sources. No sense digging through bias filled turds looking for fact kernels.

    And as for not understanding some political language used, google is your friend.
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