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    I hear people talking about how the system is Rotten. I do believe that is true. However, No Rotten system can survive without Rotten people. The so-called democratic system is rotten from its roots. Americans keep electing corrupted congress and senate members regardless of their prior knowledge that these members represent the interest of their cronies in corporations and Wall Street banks. Congress and Senate members are receiving money from lobbyists, and they aren't hiding it. A system that money able to buy it shouldn't be called democratic.

    Our economic and financial system is rotten. American Administrations started from Reagan removed slowly but steadily any regularity designated to control Wall Street banks and keep them away from gambling with people retirement and pensions. Most recently, Donald Trump issued two executive orders, the first one related to Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and the consumer protection act, while the second related to the law's Volcker rule. American people brought misery upon themselves by trusting these rotten institutions, systems and officials. Does anybody recognize what happened in 2007/2008 and how many bankers went to jail as a result? American taxpayers paid over 800 million dollars to save financial institutions that gamble with people's money. These institution CEO's aren't elected by people by any means. The Federal reserve bank isn't a government institution, and people running the show there isn't elected. The head of the treasury department can't enter the FDR bank in NewYork or their branches in the state without its chairmen's approval.

    Our family and social values are broken. Drugs take over the streets, government wage war on people, not drugs. It is just another pretext to restrict people's freedoms. Governments running a covert operation abroad, spying on each other and taping people's conversations across the oceans, but can't control their streets. Human trafficking is an industry worth hundreds of billions of dollars each year. It is another example of how streets are spinning out of control, and how law enforcement agencies worry about unfinished paperwork than saving the victims. Watching documentaries like Tricked(2003) forced me to feel the horror of not only the victims but their families too. I can't believe that pimps, another terminology metaphor for a human trafficker, hold meetings and parties in broad daylight in front of law enforcement agencies that they don't make any arrest regardless of human trafficking victims exist in the place.

    Capitalism is corrupted, people manipulate it. Everything is commoditized; Water, electricity, health care, grains, garlic, Cacao and you name it are subjected to a ruthless and faceless profit regime. It isn't supply and demand or market, it is manipulative and monopolistic. When the prices of Cacao on the international market goes up, companies pass it to the consumers and pressure the poor farmers to accept less money for their produce. But, when the prices on the international market go down, companies pocket the profit, and the price of the final product won't go along with it. Health care is another example of a greedy and selfish system. The United States is the only industrial country without universal health care. American media call countries with such a system different names, communist and socialist is an example. Mark Styen in the "America Alone" book linked between citizens paying for their health care with western civilization survives in the struggle with Islamic expansion worldwide.

    The system we live in is Rotten with all kind of manipulated practices. But why not? Everybody seems to do it. Value Village posts as a charity and non-profit asking people to drop unwanted cloth and furniture. However, the company found to make a profit of one billion dollars a year. Other stores that sell discounted brands merchandise lied on their customers, selling them average quality merchandise. people on the internet making living by posing with a review for products they never use, who cares? No regularity to hold them accountable nor the companies paying for them.

    Flint is just a little example of an ugly reality that people live daily. The glorious almighty country can't solve a water problem of a small town in Michigan. You know, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg don't own houses there. Flint residents are just a number to be called by these rotten politicians just before the election, promises are made but no action on the ground. The politicians themselves are on the payroll by corporations and their lobbyists to keep silent. Nestle, the famous bottle water company, pumps millions of gallons of Michigan springs and wells paying fraction making extremely huge profits. However, after more than 5 years, the town of Flint, Michigan still without clean water.

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    There's an orange elephant in the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan1990 View Post
    I hear people talking about how the system is Rotten. I do believe that is true. However, No Rotten system can survive without Rotten people. The so-called democratic system is rotten from its roots. Americans keep electing corrupted congress and senate members regardless of their prior knowledge that these members represent the interest of their cronies in corporations and Wall Street banks. Congress and Senate members are receiving money from lobbyists, and they aren't hiding it. A system that money able to buy it shouldn't be called democratic.

    Our economic and financial system is rotten. American Administrations started from Reagan removed slowly but steadily any regularity designated to control Wall Street banks and keep them away from gambling with people retirement and pensions. Most recently, Donald Trump issued two executive orders, the first one related to Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and the consumer protection act, while the second related to the law's Volcker rule. American people brought misery upon themselves by trusting these rotten institutions, systems and officials. Does anybody recognize what happened in 2007/2008 and how many bankers went to jail as a result? American taxpayers paid over 800 million dollars to save financial institutions that gamble with people's money. These institution CEO's aren't elected by people by any means. The Federal reserve bank isn't a government institution, and people running the show there isn't elected. The head of the treasury department can't enter the FDR bank in NewYork or their branches in the state without its chairmen's approval.

    Our family and social values are broken. Drugs take over the streets, government wage war on people, not drugs. It is just another pretext to restrict people's freedoms. Governments running a covert operation abroad, spying on each other and taping people's conversations across the oceans, but can't control their streets. Human trafficking is an industry worth hundreds of billions of dollars each year. It is another example of how streets are spinning out of control, and how law enforcement agencies worry about unfinished paperwork than saving the victims. Watching documentaries like Tricked(2003) forced me to feel the horror of not only the victims but their families too. I can't believe that pimps, another terminology metaphor for a human trafficker, hold meetings and parties in broad daylight in front of law enforcement agencies that they don't make any arrest regardless of human trafficking victims exist in the place.

    Capitalism is corrupted, people manipulate it. Everything is commoditized; Water, electricity, health care, grains, garlic, Cacao and you name it are subjected to a ruthless and faceless profit regime. It isn't supply and demand or market, it is manipulative and monopolistic. When the prices of Cacao on the international market goes up, companies pass it to the consumers and pressure the poor farmers to accept less money for their produce. But, when the prices on the international market go down, companies pocket the profit, and the price of the final product won't go along with it. Health care is another example of a greedy and selfish system. The United States is the only industrial country without universal health care. American media call countries with such a system different names, communist and socialist is an example. Mark Styen in the "America Alone" book linked between citizens paying for their health care with western civilization survives in the struggle with Islamic expansion worldwide.

    The system we live in is Rotten with all kind of manipulated practices. But why not? Everybody seems to do it. Value Village posts as a charity and non-profit asking people to drop unwanted cloth and furniture. However, the company found to make a profit of one billion dollars a year. Other stores that sell discounted brands merchandise lied on their customers, selling them average quality merchandise. people on the internet making living by posing with a review for products they never use, who cares? No regularity to hold them accountable nor the companies paying for them.

    Flint is just a little example of an ugly reality that people live daily. The glorious almighty country can't solve a water problem of a small town in Michigan. You know, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg don't own houses there. Flint residents are just a number to be called by these rotten politicians just before the election, promises are made but no action on the ground. The politicians themselves are on the payroll by corporations and their lobbyists to keep silent. Nestle, the famous bottle water company, pumps millions of gallons of Michigan springs and wells paying fraction making extremely huge profits. However, after more than 5 years, the town of Flint, Michigan still without clean water.

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    Generally, the non-stop sobbing and whining of spoiled brat white Americans who grew up in totally sheltered little lives for which they continuously sob and rant that free money isn't raining on them to not interfere with their Internet and video game time is truly sickening. They also are the most ignorant, suicide and self destruction people probably to ever live.

    Many things struck me about what what I call "white middle America" when I moved into it. While there certainly are many positives, it is stunning how naive, self entitled and having the perspective of spoiled brat little children who believe they were born with everyone else owning them everything - with NO appreciation for the VAST levels of freedom they have - really was stunning to me.

    I DESPISE people who endlessly throw self pity parties and desperately search for anything to sob and whine about, incessantly claiming life is UNFAIR to them - when 98% of Americans lives are VASTLY better than 99% of humans who have ever lived.

    You don't like it here? GET OUT. LEAVE. Go be a beggar in some other country. If you life is too miserable that you can no longer tolerate it? Ruin or end your own life without bother the rest of us with your perpetual malcontent depression.
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    The system is pervasively slanted in favor of personal wealth, a system built out of greed. This isn't 20th century America anymore. There's no steam engines, automobiles, railroad lines, no towns to electrify, and no mass communication networks to create. We're in the age of hyper-speed internet connections, space forces, venture capitalists and financial services. Where does that leave the average worker? The automobile industry is weak dragging down supply chains such as steel, glass and electronics. The agriculture sector is weak due to the tariffs.

    So what's strong, what is booming? Industries like Amazon, Google, pharmaceuticals, banks, investment funds, and insurance companies. How do any of those sectors of a booming economy help the average uneducated blue collar worker? They don't. I don't know where this is all heading but I don't see a good economic future for the majority of American workers.







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    You'll see European pundits being interviewed about America from time to time.

    They all say the end of America is near.


    They've been saying this for the last 200 years. I suppose one day they'll be right, but that day is at least a thousand years off.

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    The OP also is fundamentally a lie. The water supply and system of Flint Michigan has been totally controlled by local and state DEMOCRATIC PARTY elected officials for decades.

    Yes, the Democratic Party does not care about people - and certainly not the black people of Flint Michigan. But those people stay there and vote for those Democrats anyway. So they victimized themselves and continued to vote for self victimization. For many Democrats, nothing matters more than seeking out any way to make themselves a victim believing this gives them superior victim's rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Generally, the non-stop sobbing and whining of spoiled brat white Americans who grew up in totally sheltered little lives for which they continuously sob and rant that free money isn't raining on them to not interfere with their Internet and video game time is truly sickening. They also are the most ignorant, suicide and self destruction people probably to ever live.

    Many things struck me about what what I call "white middle America" when I moved into it. While there certainly are many positives, it is stunning how naive, self entitled and having the perspective of spoiled brat little children who believe they were born with everyone else owning them everything - with NO appreciation for the VAST levels of freedom they have - really was stunning to me.

    I DESPISE people who endlessly throw self pity parties and desperately search for anything to sob and whine about, incessantly claiming life is UNFAIR to them - when 98% of Americans lives are VASTLY better than 99% of humans who have ever lived.

    You don't like it here? GET OUT. LEAVE. Go be a beggar in some other country. If you life is too miserable that you can no longer tolerate it? Ruin or end your own life without bother the rest of us with your perpetual malcontent depression.
    America is absolutely chock-full of people who criticize its systems. Always has been, and in fact, to see to it that such would always be the case, we protect the right of individuals to speak freely and the right to a free press. Someone is offering their opinion about something being wrong, and your reaction isn't merely "hey, bub, you're wrong and here's why..."--your reaction is: get the hell out of this country, I hate your guts, or better yet, just off yourself. You sound far more malcontented and entitled than the person to whom you were responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan1990 View Post
    I hear people talking about how the system is Rotten. I do believe that is true. However, No Rotten system can survive without Rotten people. The so-called democratic system is rotten from its roots. Americans keep electing corrupted congress and senate members regardless of their prior knowledge that these members represent the interest of their cronies in corporations and Wall Street banks. Congress and Senate members are receiving money from lobbyists, and they aren't hiding it. A system that money able to buy it shouldn't be called democratic.



    Our family and social values are broken. Drugs take over the streets, government wage war on people, not drugs. It is just another pretext to restrict people's freedoms. Governments running a covert operation abroad, spying on each other and taping people's conversations across the oceans, but can't control their streets. Human trafficking is an industry worth hundreds of billions of dollars each year. It is another example of how streets are spinning out of control, and how law enforcement agencies worry about unfinished paperwork than saving the victims. Watching documentaries like Tricked(2003) forced me to feel the horror of not only the victims but their families too. I can't believe that pimps, another terminology metaphor for a human trafficker, hold meetings and parties in broad daylight in front of law enforcement agencies that they don't make any arrest regardless of human trafficking victims exist in the place.

    Capitalism is corrupted, people manipulate it. Everything is commoditized; Water, electricity, health care, grains, garlic, Cacao and you name it are subjected to a ruthless and faceless profit regime. It isn't supply and demand or market, it is manipulative and monopolistic. When the prices of Cacao on the international market goes up, companies pass it to the consumers and pressure the poor farmers to accept less money for their produce. But, when the prices on the international market go down, companies pocket the profit, and the price of the final product won't go along with it. Health care is another example of a greedy and selfish system. The United States is the only industrial country without universal health care. American media call countries with such a system different names, communist and socialist is an example. Mark Styen in the "America Alone" book linked between citizens paying for their health care with western civilization survives in the struggle with Islamic expansion worldwide.

    The system we live in is Rotten with all kind of manipulated practices. But why not? Everybody seems to do it. Value Village posts as a charity and non-profit asking people to drop unwanted cloth and furniture. However, the company found to make a profit of one billion dollars a year. Other stores that sell discounted brands merchandise lied on their customers, selling them average quality merchandise. people on the internet making living by posing with a review for products they never use, who cares? No regularity to hold them accountable nor the companies paying for them.

    Flint is just a little example of an ugly reality that people live daily. The glorious almighty country can't solve a water problem of a small town in Michigan. You know, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg don't own houses there. Flint residents are just a number to be called by these rotten politicians just before the election, promises are made but no action on the ground. The politicians themselves are on the payroll by corporations and their lobbyists to keep silent. Nestle, the famous bottle water company, pumps millions of gallons of Michigan springs and wells paying fraction making extremely huge profits. However, after more than 5 years, the town of Flint, Michigan still without clean water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    You'll see European pundits being interviewed about America from time to time.

    They all say the end of America is near.


    They've been saying this for the last 200 years. I suppose one day they'll be right, but that day is at least a thousand years off.
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    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years."

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