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Worthless and Unprincipled People Now the Norm!

Luckyone

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Throughout our over-200-year existence of the United States, honor, principles, courage, and betterment-of-ourselves as people has been the norm.

We always fought corruption, we always led with law and justice being the stalwart we used, and we offered an open hand to all in the world to come here to seek better lives and get away from dictators and oppression. We were the "shining star" in a world where much blackness existed.

We were the best of the best and the standard of what everyone in the world should strive for.

There are countless stories of people giving up their lives defending who we were and sacrificing everything to support the standards that we lived by.

That is now being destroyed more and more by this president and his minions. There is no Republican in the Senate, other than Romney, that has the courage and respect for the vows of office to stand up and stop the destruction of the systems that our forefathers worked so hard to implement. There is no Republican in any position of power anymore that has the principles and desire to do what is right and to defend their nation from corruption, which is now in the open and saying to us all "so what, try to stop us! You can't and you don't have the guts to even try"

There are now close to 63 million Trump supporters that are also willing to give up everything this nation has stood for and whose parents, grandparents, and great grandparents worked for to achieve, They have lost their own personalities to follow a false God that has promised to "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) but who is actually "Making America Lose Everything" (MALE) that we have been in the past.

It is clearly a fight between the best in us and the worst in us and right now the worst in us is winning.

We don't need a savior as that means depending on someone else other than in ourselves. For example, many think that Trump is their savior and that is making things worse (not better) as he is taking us down an abyss from which we will not come back from. What we need to do is for each of us to look inside and find our better selves and rise to stand up for who we are and not for what one person wants us to be for his own benefit.

Wake up and look and stop believing what you hear. In this respect, you need to listen to your Idol who has said this to you since he was elected. Look at how you personally would like to be treated and what you personally stand for and decide if this is what you want to be known for when you die. Whether you have done what God brought you to this earth to do. Look down and deep inside and decide who you are and represent and have the courage to stand up for yourself and not stand up for a false God that only thinks of himself.

Stop making excuses for him and stand up for yourself and if what he does is what you represent, then have the guts to say so.
 
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Throughout our over-200-year existence of the United States, honor, principles, courage, and betterment-of-ourselves as people has been the norm.

We always fought corruption, we always led with law and justice being the stalwart we used, and we offered an open hand to all in the world to come here to seek better lives and get away from dictators and oppression. We were the "shining star" in a world where much blackness existed.

We were the best of the best and the standard of what everyone in the world should strive for.

There are countless stories of people giving up their lives defending who we were and sacrificing everything to support the standards that we lived by.

That is now being destroyed more and more by this president and his minions. There is no Republican in the Senate, other than Romney, that has the courage and respect for the vows of office to stand up and stop the destruction of the systems that our forefathers worked so hard to implement. There is no Republican in any position of power anymore that has the principles and desire to do what is right and to defend their nation from corruption, which is now in the open and saying to us all "so what, try to stop us! You can't and you don't have the guts to even try"

There are now close to 63 million Trump supporters that are also willing to give up everything this nation has stood for and whose parents, grandparents, and great grandparents worked for to achieve, They have lost their own personalities to follow a false God that has promised to "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) but who is actually "Making America Lose Everything" (MALE) that we have been in the past.

It is clearly a fight between the best in us and the worst in us and right now the worst in us is winning.

We don't need a savior as that means depending on someone else other than in ourselves. For example, many think that Trump is their savior and that is making things worse (not better) as he is taking us down an abyss from which we will not come back from. What we need to do is for each of us to look inside and find our better selves and rise to stand up for who we are and not for what one person wants us to be for his own benefit.

Wake up and look and stop believing what you hear. In this respect, you need to listen to your Idol who has said this to you since he was elected. Look at how you personally would like to be treated and what you personally stand for and decide if this is what you want to be known for when you die. Whether you have done what God brought you to this earth to do. Look down and deep inside and decide who you are and represent and have the courage to stand up for yourself and not stand up for a false God that only thinks of himself.

Stop making excuses for him and stand up for yourself and if what he does is what you represent, then have the guts to say so.

This argument was lost before it even begun. This is just a long winded OP to disparage those who would disagree with you. Sorry Charlie nobody is going to be convinced that way.
 
This argument was lost before it even begun. This is just a long winded OP to disparage those who would disagree with you. Sorry Charlie nobody is going to be convinced that way.

I am not trying to "convince" anyone. If I could convince someone, I would have already done it after about 8000 posts I have put on this board, most of which had links to articles, studies, and facts that proved my point.

This OP is just my way of expressing my thoughts and ideas. I certainly do not expect Trump supporters that are in a cult where they love their idol (Trump) to be convinced of anything. If facts do not convince them, opinion will be even less effective.

Nonetheless, to me personally, this is exactly what I think and feel and to me this post is 100% real, much like to Trump supporters their idolatry of Trump is real and supported.

Hey, common sense and the values our forefathers lived by seemed to have disappeared, meaning your post is no surprise.
 
I am not trying to "convince" anyone. If I could convince someone, I would have already done it after about 8000 posts I have put on this board, most of which had links to articles, studies, and facts that proved my point.

This OP is just my way of expressing my thoughts and ideas. I certainly do not expect Trump supporters that are in a cult where they love their idol (Trump) to be convinced of anything. If facts do not convince them, opinion will be even less effective.

Nonetheless, to me personally, this is exactly what I think and feel and to me this post is 100% real, much like to Trump supporters their idolatry of Trump is real and supported.

Hey, common sense and the values our forefathers lived by seemed to have disappeared, meaning your post is no surprise.

So basically you are venting and calling your opponents names. Got you. Thanks for the clarification.
 
I am not trying to "convince" anyone. If I could convince someone, I would have already done it after about 8000 posts I have put on this board, most of which had links to articles, studies, and facts that proved my point.

This OP is just my way of expressing my thoughts and ideas. I certainly do not expect Trump supporters that are in a cult where they love their idol (Trump) to be convinced of anything. If facts do not convince them, opinion will be even less effective.

Nonetheless, to me personally, this is exactly what I think and feel and to me this post is 100% real, much like to Trump supporters their idolatry of Trump is real and supported.

Hey, common sense and the values our forefathers lived by seemed to have disappeared, meaning your post is no surprise.

All of your arguments have been thoroughly defeated by more than one person on this forum. by links and everything else.
Your entire post is nothing more than just one huge projection fallacy.
 
Oh look -another post filled with TDS Drivel!!!

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So basically you are venting and calling your opponents names. Got you. Thanks for the clarification.

Yes, I am voicing my thoughts and feelings and "venting" against those that go against everything I believe in and have been taught in my life. All my teachers and all my experiences ran on what honor, morals, principles, ethics, humanity, respect, love, and God taught me is right and if I see others breaking those guidelines repeatedly and as a group of people that can change the rules and laws of the country I live in, it is my duty to talk about it so that others may join the same cause I am in.

To get rid of all MALE (Make America Lose Everything) ideals that Trump is implementing.

If you have a specific topic you would like to put to the test, bring it on. I can clearly prove that this is his intention and that it is wrong.
 
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Oh look -another post filled with TDS Drivel!!!

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That picture is a perfect rendition of how Trump supporters feel about law, justice, morals, ethics, principles and humanity. It is your logo and if fits you perfectly.

If you think I believe it is a negative, you are wrong. It is exactly typifies Trump Supporters and their blind faith in their savoir, as well as the general feeling of "I don't need to stand up for my beliefs, Trump is in charge and I fill follow him until the end"

Much like this pic

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All of your arguments have been thoroughly defeated by more than one person on this forum. by links and everything else.
Your entire post is nothing more than just one huge projection fallacy.

Go ahead and try to prove your point. As I have often said before, "words are cheap" and it seems the only thing that Trump supporters use given that they can never prove themselves right.
 
Yes, I am voicing my thoughts and feelings and "venting" against those that go against everything I believe in and have been taught in my life. All my teachers and all my experiences ran on what honor, morals, principles, ethics, humanity, respect, love, and God taught me is right and if I see others breaking those guidelines repeatedly and as a group of people that can change the rules and laws of the country I live in, it is my duty to talk about it so that others may join the same cause I am in.

To get rid of all MALE (Make America Lose Everything) ideals that Trump is implementing.

If you have a specific topic you would like to put to the test, bring it on. I can clearly prove that this is his intention and that it is wrong.

I have already made my mind up a while ago. I am voting for Trump. I guess you dont like that. Too bad.
 
Throughout our over-200-year existence of the United States, honor, principles, courage, and betterment-of-ourselves as people has been the norm.

We always fought corruption, we always led with law and justice being the stalwart we used, and we offered an open hand to all in the world to come here to seek better lives and get away from dictators and oppression. We were the "shining star" in a world where much blackness existed.

We were the best of the best and the standard of what everyone in the world should strive for.

There are countless stories of people giving up their lives defending who we were and sacrificing everything to support the standards that we lived by.

That is now being destroyed more and more by this president and his minions. There is no Republican in the Senate, other than Romney, that has the courage and respect for the vows of office to stand up and stop the destruction of the systems that our forefathers worked so hard to implement. There is no Republican in any position of power anymore that has the principles and desire to do what is right and to defend their nation from corruption, which is now in the open and saying to us all "so what, try to stop us! You can't and you don't have the guts to even try"

There are now close to 63 million Trump supporters that are also willing to give up everything this nation has stood for and whose parents, grandparents, and great grandparents worked for to achieve, They have lost their own personalities to follow a false God that has promised to "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) but who is actually "Making America Lose Everything" (MALE) that we have been in the past.

It is clearly a fight between the best in us and the worst in us and right now the worst in us is winning.

We don't need a savior as that means depending on someone else other than in ourselves. For example, many think that Trump is their savior and that is making things worse (not better) as he is taking us down an abyss from which we will not come back from. What we need to do is for each of us to look inside and find our better selves and rise to stand up for who we are and not for what one person wants us to be for his own benefit.

Wake up and look and stop believing what you hear. In this respect, you need to listen to your Idol who has said this to you since he was elected. Look at how you personally would like to be treated and what you personally stand for and decide if this is what you want to be known for when you die. Whether you have done what God brought you to this earth to do. Look down and deep inside and decide who you are and represent and have the courage to stand up for yourself and not stand up for a false God that only thinks of himself.

Stop making excuses for him and stand up for yourself and if what he does is what you represent, then have the guts to say so.

When do you think Democrats will quit being unprincipled?
 
Then go vote for the Commie. That's how we decide who's in charge.
 
I am not trying to "convince" anyone. If I could convince someone, I would have already done it after about 8000 posts I have put on this board, most of which had links to articles, studies, and facts that proved my point.

This OP is just my way of expressing my thoughts and ideas. I certainly do not expect Trump supporters that are in a cult where they love their idol (Trump) to be convinced of anything. If facts do not convince them, opinion will be even less effective.

Nonetheless, to me personally, this is exactly what I think and feel and to me this post is 100% real, much like to Trump supporters their idolatry of Trump is real and supported.

Hey, common sense and the values our forefathers lived by seemed to have disappeared, meaning your post is no surprise.

I wonder if, in all your panicked filled screeds you ever stop to consider that you are no bastion of unbiased honesty? Did it ever occur to you that the vote to impeach Trump was every bit as partisan as you think the vote to acquit him was? In fact, the acquittal was far more supported by the evidence or lack of it. Trump was not my choice in the primary four years ago. I don’t need him to be a savior, I already have one. He’s just a man who is president who does some things I agree with (and some things I don’t). Deal with it.
 
Yes, I am voicing my thoughts and feelings and "venting" against those that go against everything I believe in and have been taught in my life. All my teachers and all my experiences ran on what honor, morals, principles, ethics, humanity, respect, love, and God taught me is right and if I see others breaking those guidelines repeatedly and as a group of people that can change the rules and laws of the country I live in, it is my duty to talk about it so that others may join the same cause I am in.

To get rid of all MALE (Make America Lose Everything) ideals that Trump is implementing.

If you have a specific topic you would like to put to the test, bring it on.
I can clearly prove that this is his intention and that it is wrong.
So prove it. Don't just claim it. Prove it. Whatever it is you're talking about. Sounds like more self-aggrandizing pontification but knock yourself out.
 
I have already made my mind up a while ago. I am voting for Trump. I guess you dont like that. Too bad.

"like"?

Wrong word. I expect you to do that. I do not expect any Trump supporter to suddenly have an "epiphany" of their conscience. Minions follow their leader to the death. That is what they do as they are servants to their lord. Morals, ethics, principles and humanity is foreign to them. They have no balls.
 
So basically you are venting and calling your opponents names. Got you. Thanks for the clarification.

And they wonder why we don’t care what they think anymore. :lol:
 
So prove it. Don't just claim it. Prove it. Whatever it is you're talking about. Sounds like more self-aggrandizing pontification but knock yourself out.

I don't have the ability to write in one post everything that Trump is guilty of, especially considering that posts here have a 5000 letter minimum. Nonetheless, if you supply some "specific" action of Trump (whatever you choose), I will gladly tear it down to its roots.
 
Throughout our over-200-year existence of the United States, honor, principles, courage, and betterment-of-ourselves as people has been the norm..

Yet another rant about how Godly and good you are and anyone with opposing views are of Satan. Trump is a false God, anyone who voted for him are all in a cult, and the USA and Conservatives are the worst this country has ever offered.

8000 post of the same ole nonsense over and over. Who made you the deliverer of everything good or the one who is assigned to do Gods work? I doubt you would even know what that is.

What your post really say is you got your feelings hurt after 8 years of Obama and you want your toys back. So here is a list of things you should learn before making anymore holier than thou post.

1. Hillary is a Godless criminal. There is nobody that could have run against her that wouldn't be a better candidate. Americans voted against her and took a chance of Trump.

2. Americans who voted for Trump are not Godless, Satan worshipers. They are just Americans with a different point of view.

3. Americans who voted for Trump are not in a 63 million member cult. They are just Americans in a different political party than you

4. Under Trumps administration this country has flourished and for the first time in over 60 years we are enjoying the lowest unemployment, highest stock market, and best economy. Get over it.

5. You are not better than anyone who voted for Trump. You are not more Godly than anyone who voted for Trump. You are not more righteous than anyone who voted for Trump

6. The fact that you think you are says everything anyone would need to know about you to include being a self centered individual with a chip on your shoulder because you didn't get your way.

7. For someone who stands with the party supporting third term abortions killing babies out of convenience, you have a lot of balls to claim you have any religious beliefs at all. Anyone who supports the murdering of innocent children and claims to have a relationship with God is hypocrisy at its very best.
 
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I wonder if, in all your panicked filled screeds you ever stop to consider that you are no bastion of unbiased honesty? Did it ever occur to you that the vote to impeach Trump was every bit as partisan as you think the vote to acquit him was? In fact, the acquittal was far more supported by the evidence or lack of it. Trump was not my choice in the primary four years ago. I don’t need him to be a savior, I already have one. He’s just a man who is president who does some things I agree with (and some things I don’t). Deal with it.

If there is one thing I do respect is people that stand for what they personally believe, no matter how wrong I think they may be. As such, I appreciate your post as you are standing up for what you believe and not simply standing up for what Trump believes.

I disagree with you regarding the partisanship that you accuse the Democrats of being is as partisan as the acquittal. This does not mean that the Democrats did not act in a partisan way but then you cannot accuse anyone of being partisan when what they are doing is being partisan to the Constitution. We should ALL be partisan to the Constitution.

The Democrats "may have used" the Constitution to impose their way of thinking but then again the fact is that they were right and Trump and the republicans were wrong is the important thing. You cannot be attacked of being partisan if all you are doing is supporting the Constitution and the law. Heck, even the Republicans admitted that it was wrong what Trump did.
 
"like"?

Wrong word. I expect you to do that. I do not expect any Trump supporter to suddenly have an "epiphany" of their conscience. Minions follow their leader to the death. That is what they do as they are servants to their lord. Morals, ethics, principles and humanity is foreign to them. They have no balls.

Please, it takes no balls at all to hop on the hate bandwagon.
 
When do you think Democrats will quit being unprincipled?

We are all humans and therefore "not perfect". As such, being unprincipled is somewhat natural for most and that is what makes those that are principled and who follow their beliefs so special. Up until recently, we honored such people.

McCain was such a person but that did not matter to Trump.

Show me one hero of our nation that has been debased by the Democrats. Show me that the Democrats do not support the best in us? That is not the case with Trump, so your post has no value given the OP is not talking about being perfect or better than the other person but about honoring those that are better than we are, and also about bettering ourselves, not just comparing ourselves with those that are as bad as the worst in us is. Show me where Trump is doing that. Show me where Trump is honoring those that have sacrificed for the nation and not just about those that are sacrificing themselves for one man (Trump).

Are you a patriot to the nation or a patriot to Trump?
 
Go ahead and try to prove your point. As I have often said before, "words are cheap" and it seems the only thing that Trump supporters use given that they can never prove themselves right.

It has been proven all of your arguments come around to being "because i say so". just like your argument
here. you are basically attempting to pass your opinion off as fact. basically it is nothing more than 1 huge
projection and circular logic fallacy.
 
Please, it takes no balls at all to hop on the hate bandwagon.

It takes balls to go against injustice because injustice usually wins. That is why the Constitution was written, to give people something to strive and sacrifice for to achieve.

Yes, I hate Trump but I do not go out of my way to fight people I hate if they are not a factor in my life and with my family and country. I know several people whose character and personality are totally against what I believe and I do hate those kinds of people but I ignore them as it is not my place to judge and to punish them.

Nonetheless, when a person is in a position to affect me, my family and my country, I am going to allow my hate to push me forward to fight that injustice that is not just there but acting and affecting all those that I love. If I did not do that, I would not be worth anything as a person.
 
I wonder if, in all your panicked filled screeds you ever stop to consider that you are no bastion of unbiased honesty? Did it ever occur to you that the vote to impeach Trump was every bit as partisan as you think the vote to acquit him was? In fact, the acquittal was far more supported by the evidence or lack of it. Trump was not my choice in the primary four years ago. I don’t need him to be a savior, I already have one. He’s just a man who is president who does some things I agree with (and some things I don’t). Deal with it.

He doesn't understand your first sentence.
the rest of it i know he doesn't understand.

In his mind trump is guilty no matter what was said or done or lack of evidence to support the accusations.
similar to his OP. There is nothing in his OP that he can support with any objective information.
 
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