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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Go ahead .....genuflect to Autocratic Strong men. That is what I expected.

    By the way, both the EU and the UK decided to slap DonDon across the face and allow Huawei to build out 5G Networks in the EU and UK. So much for respect for AmeriKa around the world. All of DonDon's idiot tariffs which we pay for and all of his other nonsense will end up a drop in the bucket compared to the financial and business opportunity that represents to China.

    That DonDon respect for AmeriKa campaign is really working out isn't it.
    Hmm... someone claiming to be against autocrats is pushing for expanded business opportunities for China.
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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Hmm... someone claiming to be against autocrats is pushing for expanded business opportunities for China.
    That is an odd take. I didn't say anywhere in that post that I was "pushing" for expanded business opportunities for China. Getting tired of posters putting works in my mouth.

    Quite obviously I pointed out that the EU and UK simply told DonDon to go crap in his hat and gave Huawei big percentages of their 5G buildout. The EU only offering to its members that it should be "cautious" while spending billions with Haiwei. Be cautious.....ah-huh. The UK for its part just pulled down its pants ad bent over.

    Then again, I was never fully convinced of DonDon's commitment to US and Western Telecom relative to Huawei in spite of his stated position. Once he figures out how to make a buck for himself off of it, Huawei will suddenly become an example of corporate good behavior to be admired.

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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    So based on the totality of the arguments presented by Trump's Defense Team in the Senate regarding foreign election interference and Presidential Prerogative we are now officially the United States of AmeriKa...
    I'm certainly no fan of Trump but this kind of exaggerated rhetoric and silly word games don't do you argument any favours and can only serve to increase the problems of division and political extremism.

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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    That is an odd take. I didn't say anywhere in that post that I was "pushing" for expanded business opportunities for China. Getting tired of posters putting works in my mouth.

    Quite obviously I pointed out that the EU and UK simply told DonDon to go crap in his hat and gave Huawei big percentages of their 5G buildout. The EU only offering to its members that it should be "cautious" while spending billions with Haiwei. Be cautious.....ah-huh. The UK for its part just pulled down its pants ad bent over.

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    Do tariffs expand or contract business opportunities?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I'm certainly no fan of Trump but this kind of exaggerated rhetoric and silly word games don't do you argument any favours and can only serve to increase the problems of division and political extremism.
    "problems of division and political extremism"!!!! Open your eyes. We are in a fight for the soul of the nation and WE ARE LOSING! Pay attention!

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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Do tariffs expand or contract business opportunities?
    Neither....they are a tax and they do what all taxes do and my comments about tariffs are that all of Trumpkins tariffs combined will not overcome the business opportunity represented by UK and EU 5G build outs.

    By the way we are sucking on everybody's tailpipes with regard to 5G. Of course Trumpettes probably think cable TV is new technology.

    Let not get off topic into a discussion of what tariffs do or don't do. Threatening the EU with new tariffs certainly did not stop them from accepting Huahei with open arms.
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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Neither....they are a tax and they do what all taxes do.
    Yep, they raise the price of the good/service to which they are applied. Again, does taxing goods/services from China help China?
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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep, they raise the price of the good/service to which they are applied. Again, does taxing goods/services from China help China?
    Helps nobody...stop changing the subject. Go start a tariffs thread if you want to.

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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Chicken Little Liberalism
    The basic premise of the argument doucheowitz made was this:

    The president can order investigations into political rivals so long as the president feels he or whoever his party's candidate is, would be "better" for the nation, than whoever is running.

    This is the most dangerous, precarious threat to our democracy. I've never thought I would live to see an American lawyer make this argument for an American president in our senate.

    I don't care which party you're in. This will enable abuse the likes of which we have never seen. It will muddy the waters with further fake information.

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    Re: The United States of AmeriKa

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I'm certainly no fan of Trump but this kind of exaggerated rhetoric and silly word games don't do you argument any favours and can only serve to increase the problems of division and political extremism.
    It's not rhetoric. Read my above. That is the literal argument the president is putting forward.

    He can order investigations based strictly off the concept of absolute immunity (something no one agrees with) and the principal of who the president thinks is best for the country.

    That DIRECTLY REFUTES the authority of we the people to choose who is best for the country. It usurps authority from congress to do oversight.

    This literally flies in the face of our entire principal of government.

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