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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    I like to see Giuliani and Nunes testifying. Both are laughable clowns
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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, if McConnell loses the "witness" vote, maybe we'll find out. Personally, I don't think he'll lose a damned thing; Mitch runs the Senate, Trump runs Mitch, and all the quivering Republican Senators, who are about to crap their pants now that multiple polls show that 75% of Americans want witnesses, know it.
    Much as it is an imposition on the three presidential candidates, McConnell wants this thing over with, especially since everyone knows it's a put up.

    Trump doesn't run McConnell, but they do seem to have feel for each other's needs and methods. It has become a very smooth work relationship. One example is how well they coordinated on the judicial appointments. Record numbers have been processed in the last three years. At least one appeals court has been flipped. It has all been very low key, exactly how McConnell likes things.

    Polls don't mean much for this sort of thing. If the Democrats want the witnesses, they can still call them in the House. A quick acquittal has its own appeal.

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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    So it appears McConnell does not have enough votes to block a call for witnesses. That said, if witnesses are called, who would you call?

    * Bolton - obvious reasons, more so that the book manuscript excerpt was leaked
    * Mulvaney - he can shed more light on why the aid was held up
    * Rick Perry - what deal was he cooking up in Ukraine?
    * Pompeo - he needs to answer some questions under oath as to all things Ukraine since Rudy G. got involved

    What I cannot understand is why Republicans want to call Schiff, his aides, the whistleblower, or the Bidens. I know why they want to call them (muddy the waters, potentially hurt Biden electorally), but I also do not know why they want to treat this like a criminal trial in other ways but not in this one. A defendant should want witnesses who can clear his name or to exonerate him, not witnesses who have nothing to do with the "crime".

    So who would you call, and why?
    I might put Trump under oath and then put Bolton, Rudy, and Sondland.

    For laffs put AG Barr on the stand and watch him sing like a bird and put everyone else away.
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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay59 View Post
    Much as it is an imposition on the three presidential candidates, McConnell wants this thing over with, especially since everyone knows it's a put up.

    Trump doesn't run McConnell, but they do seem to have feel for each other's needs and methods. It has become a very smooth work relationship. One example is how well they coordinated on the judicial appointments. Record numbers have been processed in the last three years. At least one appeals court has been flipped. It has all been very low key, exactly how McConnell likes things.

    Polls don't mean much for this sort of thing. If the Democrats want the witnesses, they can still call them in the House. A quick acquittal has its own appeal.
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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    Calling witnesses will put an end to O'Biden's chances for the White House.

    And Trump still walks in the meantime.
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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    So now Sen Langford and some other T-Party nitwit offering that they should take the Bolton Manuscript into the SCIF, read it and determine based on the manuscript if there is a rational for calling Bolton. This is about the most gutless, soulless dumbassery I have seen yet.

    The GOP will do anything to avoid actually calling witnesses while looking like they are engaged in some sort of process that makes any sense at all.

    You Trumpettes actually want these gutless idiots representing you? YOU ARE WELCOME TO THEM for as long as they can survive. I doubt that will be much longer as every single day brings another example of their craven gutlessness.

    CALL THE WITNESSES YOU SNIVELING COWARDS.

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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I don't know if that's original, but it's pretty good.
    it's an obscure one that i collected.

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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    Another witheringly stupid comment regarding witnesses from the GOP:

    "It could lead to an endless trial"

    Read that as "It could lead to the end of DonDon".

    I don't know that it might be better for the Dems if they just let the GOP keep throwing crap against the wall continuing to embarrass themselves in the process.

    I am bit surprised that the GOP Senators are just not shutting up and letting Moscow Mitch buy them off one by one.

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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    The hole the T-Party has dug for itself is only partially due to the Parnas and Bolton revelations. That was a horrifically bad performance by the Trump Defense team to this point.

    Notice as well that threats of Subpoenas to the Bidens has not scared the Dems off of their position regarding witnesses and documents. If anything the GOP is desperately trying to push deals in an effort to draw the Dems into their craven, sniveling nonsense.

    You have the votes Repugs. You don't need a single dem vote to subpoena Hunter Biden Joe Biden for that matter. Their bluff is being called I don't think they have even figured it out yet.
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    Re: Call your witnesses!

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The whole reason that Joe Biden's prior withholding of aid to Ukraine was deemed OK was that it was "proven" that the prosecutor he demanded be fired was corrupt - ergo it would have been equally OK for Trump to request action (while delaying aid) if it could be "proven" that Biden had been up to no good.
    Not comparable.

    Biden was delaying aid
    (a) AFTER it was known that the prosecutor was corrupt
    (b) IN LINE with US policy as well as that of EU and doing so openly
    (c) TO CLEAN UP Ukraine by firing top prosecutor in Ukraine

    Trump was delaying aid
    (a) BEFORE it is known whether Biden had anything to do with his son's activities that in themselves may or may not be corrupt
    (b) AGAINST US policy (not to mention EU), NOT using proper US channels, and attempting to hide his activities
    (c) WOULD NOT affect Ukrainian "corruption" in any positive way since he was asking to investigate US citizens, and this was not about Ukranians in the government

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