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KELLY: Moments later, the same staffer who had stopped the interview reappeared, asked me to come with her - just me, no recorder, though she did not say we were off the record, nor would I have agreed. I was taken to the secretary's private living room, where he was waiting and where he shouted at me for about the same amount of time as the interview itself had lasted.
He was not happy to have been questioned about Ukraine. He asked, do you think Americans care about Ukraine? He used the F word in that sentence and many others. He asked if I could find Ukraine on a map. I said yes. He called out for his aides to bring him a map of the world with no writing, no countries marked. I pointed to Ukraine. He put the map away. He said people will hear about this. And then he turned and said he had things to do. And I thanked him, again, for his time and left.
NPR CEO Defends Journalist After Pompeo Lashes Out Over Ukraine Interview : NPR
Pompeo is a liar, they all are.
Any reporter traveling with WH administration staff knows EXACTLY when they are on the record and when they are not. If this reporter is too stupid to know the difference then she doesn't need to be on that mission.