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How did the whistleblower get the whole impeachment process started in the House? Why was his report of his 3rd hand hearsay evidence about a phone call nobody was supposed to have access to without a security clearance given so much weight by Adam Schiff? Who fed the information to the whistleblower? Unverified reports show the whistleblower was a democrat intelligence operative who had close ties to Biden, Obama and certain diplomats who seemed somewhat opposed to Trump Ukraine policy.

Michael Atkinson ruled that the whistleblower complaint created justifiable concerns and ruled it credible. Atkinson was deposed by House investigators yet his deposition remains the only one taken by the House in their investigation which they refuse to make public. Americans want answers to questions about the whistleblower. Democrats are dishonest if they claim key witnesses like him must not be heard.
 
Nobody cares about the Whistleblower anymore. His initial report has been verified and revealed to be 100% accurate.
 
CMPancake said:
Nobody cares about the Whistleblower anymore. His initial report has been verified and revealed to be 100% accurate.
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Where did you get spoon fed that information? That is a flat out lie. What the so called whistleblower claimed was not accurate and has been proved such.
 
vesper said:
Where did you get spoon fed that information? That is a flat out lie. What the so called whistleblower claimed was not accurate and has been proved such.
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The Whistleblower reported that the President was extorting military aide from the Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden and his crackhead son, Hunter. Trump himself released a transcript that showed exactly that.

You're either getting really lazy, or you're just becoming a terrible liar. I expected you to at least try at being dishonest.
 
CMPancake said:
The Whistleblower reported that the President was extorting military aide from the Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden and his crackhead son, Hunter. Trump himself released a transcript that showed exactly that.

You're either getting really lazy, or you're just becoming a terrible liar. I expected you to at least try at being dishonest.
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Kurt Volker one of Shifty's witnesses, during his impeachment inquiry deposition highlighted inaccuracies in the “whistleblower’s” complaint.
 
vesper said:
Kurt Volker one of Shifty's witnesses, during his impeachment inquiry deposition highlighted inaccuracies in the “whistleblower’s” complaint.
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The fact you're not specifying those inaccuracies is telling that they are, at best, irrelevant to the overall complaint. Which is the President extorting a country for personal gain.

At this point, you're allowed to wear one of two hats. Either you're stupid and you believe that the President didn't do the thing that he, himself admitted to doing. Or you're a liar that just likes lying.
 
CMPancake said:
Nobody cares about the Whistleblower anymore. His initial report has been verified and revealed to be 100% accurate.
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It goes to intent. Why did Schiff base his impeachment proceedings on the complaint of an unknown operative who had never heard the phone call and was not legally allowed to hear it without a clearance and was never allowed to leak it for any reason? We need to go to the source of the inquiry because serious questions must be asked and answered before Trump can be either acquitted or condemned.
 
CMPancake said:
The Whistleblower reported that the President was extorting military aide from the Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden and his crackhead son, Hunter. Trump himself released a transcript that showed exactly that.

You're either getting really lazy, or you're just becoming a terrible liar. I expected you to at least try at being dishonest.
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More educated scholars have clearly shown that there was no extortion in the phone call. Not only that, but every witness on record in the impeachment documents from the House verified that same thing. So to claim there was extortion is not only wrong, but stupid.
 
marke said:
It goes to intent. Why did Schiff base his impeachment proceedings on the complaint of an unknown operative who had never heard the phone call and was not legally allowed to hear it without a clearance and was never allowed to leak it for any reason? We need to go to the source of the inquiry because serious questions must be asked and answered before Trump can be either acquitted or condemned.
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Why did the President of the United States extort the Ukrainian President for information on Joe Biden's crackhead son, Hunter Biden? You know, the basis of the whistleblower complaint that was verified to be true by a transcript released by the President of the United States.
 
CMPancake said:
The fact you're not specifying those inaccuracies is telling that they are, at best, irrelevant to the overall complaint. Which is the President extorting a country for personal gain.

At this point, you're allowed to wear one of two hats. Either you're stupid and you believe that the President didn't do the thing that he, himself admitted to doing. Or you're a liar that just likes lying.
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The summation of the stellar House impeachment managers' opening remarks repeated several times ad nauseum over a period of 24 boring hours: "Trump is guilty of the most foul deeds of any president in the history of the nation and must be convicted and removed from office. We want to go on record as resisting any effort by sleazy Senators or defense lawyers to impugn our testimony, to disagree with our assessments, to question our judgment and truthfulness, and, especially, to attempt to open criminal investigations into Ukraine cases which we have already declared clear of criminal activity and closed to all future inquiries."
 
CMPancake said:
Why did the President of the United States extort the Ukrainian President for information on Joe Biden's crackhead son, Hunter Biden? You know, the basis of the whistleblower complaint that was verified to be true by a transcript released by the President of the United States.
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Very few democrats still claim President Trump plainly demanded of Zelensky that he give him dirt on Biden for political reasons. Zelensky was totally unaware Trump was asking for dirt on Biden at all, and he is the guy democrats claim was being threatened.
 
marke said:
Very few democrats still claim President Trump plainly demanded of Zelensky that he give him dirt on Biden for political reasons. Zelensky was totally unaware Trump was asking for dirt on Biden at all, and he is the guy democrats claim was being threatened.
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The first article of Impeachment is entirely focused around the phone call, don't act so naive because you're not fooling anyone.
 
marke said:
The summation of the stellar House impeachment managers' opening remarks repeated several times ad nauseum over a period of 24 boring hours: "Trump is guilty of the most foul deeds of any president in the history of the nation and must be convicted and removed from office. We want to go on record as resisting any effort by sleazy Senators or defense lawyers to impugn our testimony, to disagree with our assessments, to question our judgment and truthfulness, and, especially, to attempt to open criminal investigations into Ukraine cases which we have already declared clear of criminal activity and closed to all future inquiries."
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CMPancake said:
The first article of Impeachment is entirely focused around the phone call, don't act so naive because you're not fooling anyone.
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The whistleblower made false allegations against the President of the United Statesm based upon leaked hearsay evidence of a phone call he had no legal access to. Democrats may be fooling millions of dolts, but not me. Who illegally leaked the phone call to the whistleblower and why? Someone needs to answer questions about this leak. This is another example why so few crooked Obama lackeys end up in jail. Democrats don't care if a democrat operative breaks the law as long as democrats are pleased with the results, and the whole crooked mob and their media henchmen excoriate any good investigators who attempt to look into the law-breaking as they should.
 
CMPancake said:
Why did the President of the United States extort the Ukrainian President for information on Joe Biden's crackhead son, Hunter Biden? You know, the basis of the whistleblower complaint that was verified to be true by a transcript released by the President of the United States.
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Good Lord. Hunter is not even in the transcripts, Trump asked him to work with the Attorney General to look into crowdstrike and the Biden claim "if possible" and at no point did he "extort" anything.
 
CMPancake said:
The Whistleblower reported that the President was extorting military aide from the Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden and his crackhead son, Hunter. Trump himself released a transcript that showed exactly that.

You're either getting really lazy, or you're just becoming a terrible liar. I expected you to at least try at being dishonest.
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Trump did not extort anything from Zelensky. That was a lie which the whistleblower made public with the unlawful leak of the secret government phone call which the whistleblower had no business involving himself with, especially when everything he knew about the phone call came from leftist media and Trump-hating government sources which were all 2nd and 3rd hand.

Graham expressed intentions of investigating the whistleblower separately. I do not support that idea. The whistleblower is a key fact witness to the ongoing impeachment trial and should be forced to testify in the impeachment trial itself.
 
marke said:
More educated scholars have clearly shown that there was no extortion in the phone call. Not only that, but every witness on record in the impeachment documents from the House verified that same thing. So to claim there was extortion is not only wrong, but stupid.
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Give me a break. The phone call is only a fraction of what occurred here. That's why Trump released it, hoping it would quiet everything. It started long before the call and ended in mid September. Look at the whole picture, not just the phone call.

Until Trump releases all documents from OMB, DOJ, DOD, State and his own WH, no one will ever know what really happened or why. And until then, we can't consider this a fair trial in the senate. The republican senators don't want to see all this because they know it will hurt Trump.
 
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marke said:
It goes to intent. Why did Schiff base his impeachment proceedings on the complaint of an unknown operative who had never heard the phone call and was not legally allowed to hear it without a clearance and was never allowed to leak it for any reason? We need to go to the source of the inquiry because serious questions must be asked and answered before Trump can be either acquitted or condemned.
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The whistleblower only blew the alarm. The investigation that followed the alarm uncovered the facts alleged in the impeachment. None of it cites the whistleblower.
 
The AntiDonald said:
Give me a break. The phone call is only a fraction of what occurred here. That's why Trump released it, hoping it would quiet everything. It started long before the call and ended in mid September. Look at the whole picture, not just the phone call.

Until Trump releases all documents from OMB, DOJ, DOD, State and his own WH, no one will ever know what really happened or why. And until then, we can't consider this a fair trial in the senate. The republican senators don't want to see all this because they know it will hurt Trump.
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Your narrative is being contradicted by unfolding facts in the Senate trial.
 
JackA said:
The whistleblower only blew the alarm. The investigation that followed the alarm uncovered the facts alleged in the impeachment. None of it cites the whistleblower.
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We know Hillary paid liars to fabricate the Russian dossier crooked Obama justice department officials illegally used to obtain warrants to spy on Trump. We also know the whistleblower worked for Obama, Biden, and corrupt Americans in Ukraine who conspired to help Hillary in the 2016 election. We absolutely must force the partisan hack to testify and answer essential questions.
 
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