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Greatest miracle of the Trump presidency = the exposure of widespread corruption in high places

marke said:
I think I know where you are coming from. Two lawmakers examined the FISA applications which were first presented to the courts. One was a republican who said the warrants were illegitimate. The other was Adamn Schitff, who said the warrants were completely accurate and legitimate. It turns out Schiftt was wrong - again - as new Justice Department evidence demonstrates.
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What new evidence? Links please.
 
Lol @ the overripe impeachypeach "exposing corruption."

He's exposing it by personifying it.

Lulz
 
marke said:
What is going on with the latest news that at least two of the FISA warrants were illegal and the other 2 also possibly illegal? How are the democrats going to spin this news?
Two of four FISA warrants against Carter Page declared invalid - CNNPolitics
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You said;
marke said:
News has just broken that the Obama administration, officials in the Justice Department, the FBI, federal intelligence agencies, judges, prosecutors and more broke the law in applying for, obtaining and executing illegal warrants to spy on the Trump campaign in 2016 and beyond.
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That is a gross exaggeration (some might say lie) of facts not supported by your own reference. One (1) lawyer is being investigated for possible criminal conduct.
“Following the inspector general report last month, the FISA court slammed the FBI for its mistakes in the Page warrants in a rare public filing.”
marke said:
Flynn's lawyer is claiming prosecutorial abuse. Flynn is now claiming his confession was coerced. He may be sent to prison anyway, but these issues will still be litigated in court and then we will see who is lying and who is telling the truth.
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Flynn is crying because he expected to get zero time for his felonious acts. Boo ****in’ hoo.
“Former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who admitted to lying to the FBI about contacts with Russia's ambassador to the U.S., wants to withdraw his 2-year-old guilty plea, saying federal prosecutors reneged on a promise to not ask for jail time at his upcoming sentencing.”
Flynn Asks To Withdraw Guilty Plea In Case Stemming From Mueller Probe : NPR
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Another swing and a miss for you. You should consider getting your information from reliable sources.

There is no new news regarding FISA warrants or the lawful surveillance of Papadopoulos and Page (zero evidence of “spying on” Trump has ever been found).

And as for Flynn, he’s asking to withdraw his guilty plea because he’s unhappy that prosecutors want him to serve time. Not because of any new fictional evidence you claim.
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It is embarrassing the number of Americans who buy the democrat lies without question or doubt.
 
bluesmoke said:
You're not going to get any proof from the OP of his claims. He only spreads falsehood and lies so thick no truth can grow through it. His only response to link requests will be vague and evasive because he does not engage in honest and forthright debate, which would be admirable and something I'm sure we all hope and wish for and I trust he is capable of, if only he wills it of himself with what free will he has. That would be a worthy event to bear witness.
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Start with this:

Two of four FISA warrants against Carter Page declared invalid - CNNPolitics
 
marke said:
Trump campaigned on draining the swamp. I don't think anyone was expecting to see the amount of corruption in government workers, politicians, business people, judges, law enforcement officers, and others connected to the everyday business as usual operations of our corrupt government.

News has just broken that the Obama administration, officials in the Justice Department, the FBI, federal intelligence agencies, judges, prosecutors and more broke the law in applying for, obtaining and executing illegal warrants to spy on the Trump campaign in 2016 and beyond. General Flynn has withdrawn his coerced guilty plea in light of new evidence of prosecutorial misconduct and so forth.
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Citations required.
 
marke said:
Trump campaigned on draining the swamp. I don't think anyone was expecting to see the amount of corruption in government workers, politicians, business people, judges, law enforcement officers, and others connected to the everyday business as usual operations of our corrupt government.

News has just broken that the Obama administration, officials in the Justice Department, the FBI, federal intelligence agencies, judges, prosecutors and more broke the law in applying for, obtaining and executing illegal warrants to spy on the Trump campaign in 2016 and beyond. General Flynn has withdrawn his coerced guilty plea in light of new evidence of prosecutorial misconduct and so forth.
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Clearly, the dems are just as corrupt as the republicans. All of Washington is corrupt.

Trump has not drained the swamp, he has bought new furniture and upholstery for the swamp, and invited his friends to participate. Washington is a gangsta's paradise, and Donald is right at home.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Clearly, the dems are just as corrupt as the republicans. All of Washington is corrupt.

Trump has not drained the swamp, he has bought new furniture and upholstery for the swamp, and invited his friends to participate. Washington is a gangsta's paradise, and Donald is right at home.
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Who would you rather have in the White House in the future, someone like Schitff or someone like Jim Jordan? There should be no doubt who would be better in the minds of decent, honest, respectable Americans. We don't need to blindly adopt democrat narratives dishonestly designed to make their candidates appear to be better for America than President Trump going into the 2020 election season.
 
It's been proven that the FISA warrants filed by Comey and company contained false information.
These people have to verify the information as accurate, when in fact they knew it was fiction.
The whole thing was a political rig job, and an abuse of power.
But it was A-OK, because Hillary was for sure going to win, right?
 
marke said:
Who would you rather have in the White House in the future, someone like Schitff or someone like Jim Jordan? There should be no doubt who would be better in the minds of decent, honest, respectable Americans. We don't need to blindly adopt democrat narratives dishonestly designed to make their candidates appear to be better for America than President Trump going into the 2020 election season.
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Ah yes, Jordan, that fine and upstanding person who covered up allegations of sexual abuse in his wrestling team. Should fit right into Trump's festering swamp.

Fourth Wrestler Says Rep. Jim Jordan Was Aware of Sexual-Abuse Claims

Referee says he told Rep. Jim Jordan that Ohio State doctor performed sex act in shower

YouTube

Another Former OSU Wrestler Says GOP Rep. Jim Jordan Knew About Abuse: Report

So yes, I can see why Jordan would be your ideal, 'better' candidate...
 
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In February 2016 Unkrainian PGO Shokin seized the assets of Hunter Biden's Ukrainian boss, Mykola Zlochevsky. That same month Joe Biden forced Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire Shokin and shut down the investigation into Burisma, the company paying Hunter Biden tens of thousands of dollars per month for access to high government officials in the US. On May 28, 2016, President Obama appointed Marie Yovanovitch as Ambassador to Ukraine. On 12 May 2016 Yuriy Lutsenko was appointed Ukraine's Prosecutor General, a position Viktor Shokin had held before Joe Biden had him fired. Lutsenko told American Justice Department officials that in his first meeting with Ambassador Yovanovitch she gave him a list of names of Americans she did not want him investigating.

After Lutsenko divulged the fact that Yovanovitch gave him that list of names in 2016, she went public with charges that he was corrupt as well, just as Joe Biden had said about Shokin. The statements by Lutsenko and Shokin seem consistent with the known facts and suggest there was a concerted effort by American democrats to cover up the ongoing criminal activities in Ukraine they did not want uncovered. They also further corroborated these suspicions of ongoing corruption by indicting Manafort and others for corruption in Ukraine, while refusing to indict Manafort's partner there, Tony Podesta, a close Clinton friend.

Are American government officials and politicians crooked? Some are but they use their power to keep from being investigated. Democrats seeking to impeach Trump over innuendos, assumptions, speculations and feelings about a phone call to Ukraine are adamantly opposed to any investigation into Hunter Biden's possible crimes in Ukraine, just like Yovanovitch told Ukrainian investigators Obama was also opposed to.
 
Oborosen said:
That's a rather hyperbolic assumption.
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Not hyperbolic and not an assumption. From being sued by the Justice Department in 1973 for discrimination, all the way up to December of last year, when Trump was ordered to pay $2M for using his purported charity as his own piggy bank.
 
Oborosen said:
In keeping Hillary out of office, yes.
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That's a big one.

Thoreau72 said:
Clearly, the dems are just as corrupt as the republicans. All of Washington is corrupt. Trump has not drained the swamp, he has bought new furniture and upholstery for the swamp, and invited his friends to participate. Washington is a gangsta's paradise, and Donald is right at home.
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More corrupt. The Democrats have the media protecting one of their flanks.

In comparison, Trump is squeaky clean. The Democrats have been free to investigate him at great length and the media over-promotes every tiny flaw.
 
marke said:
Who would you rather have in the White House in the future, someone like Schitff or someone like Jim Jordan? There should be no doubt who would be better in the minds of decent, honest, respectable Americans. We don't need to blindly adopt democrat narratives dishonestly designed to make their candidates appear to be better for America than President Trump going into the 2020 election season.
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Who would I rather have in the White House?

I would rather have Rand Paul or Tulsi Gabbard, as long as you're engaging in fantasy.
 
Jay59 said:
That's a big one.


More corrupt. The Democrats have the media protecting one of their flanks.

In comparison, Trump is squeaky clean. The Democrats have been free to investigate him at great length and the media over-promotes every tiny flaw.
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Trump is squeaky clean? You must be quite young. I was in adulthood when he came on the scene. He and I are just a few years apart in age.

I can remember his vanity and arrogance when he came on the scene. He is more of a bully and braggart today in old age as he was as a young man.

If you want to read a book about his moral and business standards and practices, read David Cay Johnston's "The Making of Donald Trump". It will inform you, if you wish to be informed.
 
Oborosen said:
That's a rather hyperbolic assumption.
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Not really. David Cay Johnston's book documents his man corrupt activities.

Rale Bulgarian's assessment is a proper conclusion for one who is informed about Trump's behavior throughout his life.
 
The BO Regime was the most corrupt administration in American history. Then again leftists are the authors of corruption. They have long and rich traditions going back over several decades. It's good to see a president willing to drain the Swamp rather than to see these cancerous leftists continue on.
 
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