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Scammed by Mitch McConnell

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The American People Are Being Scammed by Mitch McConnell

Senators have a duty to conduct a fair and full trial. The Republican leader is trying to make sure they can’t.

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No Witnesses — No Documents. You'll only see this in the Senate courtroom of Mitch McConnell.

1/22/20
The removal of a sitting president is the last line of defense provided by the framers of the Constitution against the abuse of power by the leader of our country. When senators take an oath to uphold the Constitution, they assume the grave responsibility to conduct a thorough and fair trial on behalf of the American people. Dismissing this process set out in the Constitution, President Trump has called the impeachment process a “scam.” That’s his opinion, of course — but this week Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is doing everything he can to ensure that the Senate trial actually is a scam. An impeachment trial is only meaningful if the American people can have confidence in the fairness of the process; only then will the trial’s verdict be worthy of respect. Mr. McConnell is advocating trial procedures that would undercut any possibility of that. Americans understand the basic contours of a fair trial: Each side presents relevant evidence, in the form of documents and witnesses. But Mr. McConnell and President Trump’s allies in the Senate appear to think that the president should be allowed to play by his own rules. The McConnell impeachment procedural resolution that the Senate adopted early Wednesday morning appears designed to, among other things, prevent either side from introducing testimony and evidence about President Trump’s alleged abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Every impeachment trial in American history has heard from fact witnesses. And at least every impeachment trial in the last hundred years has heard fact testimony from new witnesses — those who have not previously provided evidence to the House of Representatives. Breaking from this ironclad precedent to protect President Trump, Mr. McConnell’s rules provide no assurance that the Senate will hear from witnesses or collect evidence.

What happens next is not just for Mr. McConnell to decide. Each senator can uphold his or her constitutional duty and vote in the coming weeks, as they should have voted yesterday, to ensure that they have the information they need to decide whether the president solicited a foreign power’s assistance in his re-election and tried to prevent Congress from investigating that conduct, and whether that conduct necessitates his removal from office. The president’s allies in the Senate must ask themselves whether they would brush aside such serious allegations if someone else was occupying the White House. One suspects that they would react very differently if, for instance, President Barack Obama had been accused of asking a foreign government to investigate Mitt Romney. The American people want their senators to engage in a serious quest for the truth. A recent CNN poll of voters showed that 69 percent of Americans want the Senate to hear evidence and witnesses in the coming days. As I watched from the Senate gallery Tuesday, the gravity of the moment was palpable. For many senators, the coming days and weeks will see the most consequential votes of their lives. They are being given a stark choice: do what is right for the nation or do what is politically expedient for the most corrupt president in American history.

'Midnight' Mitch McConnell has his marching orders from President 'Access Hollywood' — prevent former National Security Adviser John Bolton, Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Senior Adviser to the Acting White House Chief of Staff Robert Blair, and Office of Management and Budget official Michael Duffey from testifying in front of the US Senate and the American people at all costs. And do not allow the Senate to subpoena trial-critical Executive Branch documents that impeachment defendant Donald Trump has walled-off in the darkest recesses of the White House.

In no other courtroom in America will you be able to watch as relevant witness/material evidence is purposefully and willfully withheld. This is the courtroom of Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Little different than the sham trials held in Reconstruction America or the choreographed show- trials held today in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: The guilty verdict on the Republican party
 
They do not have a duty to conduct any trial whatsoever.
 
The American People Are Being Scammed by Mitch McConnell

Senators have a duty to conduct a fair and full trial. The Republican leader is trying to make sure they can’t.

234115.png

No Witnesses — No Documents. You'll only see this in the Senate courtroom of Mitch McConnell.



'Midnight' Mitch McConnell has his marching orders from President 'Access Hollywood' — prevent former National Security Adviser John Bolton, Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Senior Adviser to the Acting White House Chief of Staff Robert Blair, and Office of Management and Budget official Michael Duffey from testifying in front of the US Senate and the American people at all costs. And do not allow the Senate to subpoena trial-critical Executive Branch documents that impeachment defendant Donald Trump has walled-off in the darkest recesses of the White House.

In no other courtroom in America will you be able to watch as relevant witness/material evidence is purposefully and willfully withheld. This is the courtroom of Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Little different than the sham trials held in Reconstruction America or the choreographed show- trials held today in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: The guilty verdict on the Republican party

whose fault is that? you are trying to place the blame on McConnell, when in reality, and the whole country knows, it rests solely with Nancy Pelosi

i know that is hard to read/hear....

must be a bitch knowing they screwed the pooch from go on this one....

you can post all the dribble from left wing sites and msm you like....it doesnt change that FACT

Nancy didnt wait for the court cases to be heard....which is what she needed to do
 
Doesn't matter, the American Taliban don't care about facts, consistency, what is right. They are complete scumbags
 
Why do you hate the Constitution and our country?

i ask that question of leftist all the time.

It is the job of the house to hold the hearing.
The senate is under no duty to perform the job of the house.

if the house did not do it's job then that is the house's problem
and those that ran it not the senates.

this is political remember.
yes your cartoon is right. mcConnell sets the rules in the senate.
 
Why do you hate the Constitution and our country?

No but at least I understand it. There is no requirement in the Constitution that there be a senate trial whenever the House decides to impeach.
 
Why do you hate the Constitution and our country?

country's just fine, doing great in fact. Constitution could be better, but when democrats are trying to unravel it, what can you do but stand against that effort?

were you really counting on Trump being impeached? wow you should have raised hell when the dem house leaders started running their show of impeachment like a circus and not gathering the evidence they would need to convict. If I were you I would send them a nasty letter , right now.
 
They do not have a duty to conduct any trial whatsoever.

Is that the latest? And therefore, any trial they do conduct, no matter how farcical, is more than their obligation?

So far from what I've seen, the Dems are laying out a solid case, with a verified timeline, and their most compelling witness so far is Trump himself in his own words. All I've seen from the president's team is insults. They haven't disputed any of the facts presented. They must be under the impression that there is nothing to be concerned about. Apparently, the GOP senate is going to listen to the evidence presented and then summarily acquit the president. They will in essence be saying "There is nothing wrong with the president soliciting interference from foreign governments in our elections."

This is the guy who declared he could shoot someone and not lose any votes. In other words he can do anything and not be held accountable.
 
Moscow Mitch is doing everything he can to make sure the cover up passes as quickly as possible.
 
Is that the latest? And therefore, any trial they do conduct, no matter how farcical, is more than their obligation?

So far from what I've seen, the Dems are laying out a solid case, with a verified timeline, and their most compelling witness so far is Trump himself in his own words. All I've seen from the president's team is insults. They haven't disputed any of the facts presented. They must be under the impression that there is nothing to be concerned about. Apparently, the GOP senate is going to listen to the evidence presented and then summarily acquit the president. They will in essence be saying "There is nothing wrong with the president soliciting interference from foreign governments in our elections."

This is the guy who declared he could shoot someone and not lose any votes. In other words he can do anything and not be held accountable.

They are not required to have a trial and if they do, then it is regulated solely and exclusively by the Rules of the Senate, whatever they may be. There is no judicial review. As for being "held accountable", the House is the one who chose to impeach him for something not a crime, not me. What the Senate does with it is up to them, not me, you, the House or the public.
 
The idiot leftists in the country that are stupid enough to believe the media lie that they are being scammed are probably too stupid to ask how the House impeached a president without enough evidence to present a case in the senate.

Of course...MOST Americans are smart enough to see that of the 18 witnesses the rats called, 17 admitted they had no knowledge of anything improper and the 1 that did have direct knowledge admitted the president told him there he literally wanted nothing. That coupled with the Ukrainian presidents numerous statements that he felt no pressure EVER to conduct an investigation AND coupled with the FACT that the previous administration funneled BILLIONS to Ukraine under the watchful eyes of Joe Biden and the energy company Joe Biden was overseeing managed to steal 1.4 BILLION in US dollars AND that same energy company just happened to hire Joe Bidens son...a stripper hound coke addict that had zero in disutry experience and was literally in the process of being kicked out of the navy for coke use when he was hired...by the company that stole 1.4 billion in US dollars under Joe Bidens watchful eye. Most people agree it was a good idea to make sure the same corruption that the Obama administration engaged in was no longer present.

Yeah...most people in the US aren't stupid enough to fall for the rat party bull****. Most people know this impeachment scam was just that. Most people have seen the rat party clown car full of idiot leftists pressing to 'peach fotty fibe" since before the man was even inaugurated. But those like minded rat party supporters...well...they have spent the last 3 years letting the rat party spoon feed them
 
They are not required to have a trial and if they do, then it is regulated solely and exclusively by the Rules of the Senate, whatever they may be. There is no judicial review. As for being "held accountable", the House is the one who chose to impeach him for something not a crime, not me. What the Senate does with it is up to them, not me, you, the House or the public.

You're absolutely correct. There is no statute that declares "The president shall not solicit foreign interference in elections under penalty of law." Therefore, according to you, and apparently the U.S. Senate, it is completely acceptable for the president to do just that. Once they have acquitted him, he will be free to openly invite any foreign government to participate in our elections. You and the rest of the Trump base will celebrate the victory.
 
You're absolutely correct. There is no statute that declares "The president shall not solicit foreign interference in elections under penalty of law." Therefore, according to you, and apparently the U.S. Senate, it is completely acceptable for the president to do just that. Once they have acquitted him, he will be free to openly invite any foreign government to participate in our elections. You and the rest of the Trump base will celebrate the victory.

It worked for the Clintons. Don't see why it won't work for Trump as well.
 
whose fault is that? you are trying to place the blame on McConnell, when in reality, and the whole country knows, it rests solely with Nancy Pelosi

i know that is hard to read/hear....

must be a bitch knowing they screwed the pooch from go on this one....

you can post all the dribble from left wing sites and msm you like....it doesnt change that FACT

Nancy didnt wait for the court cases to be heard....which is what she needed to do

Furthermore, the House can have numerous do-overs. All they need to do is vote out more articles of impeachment.

Why not start an "impeachment of the month" ritual?
 
It worked for the Clintons. Don't see why it won't work for Trump as well.

The last Clinton elected to the presidency was Bill in 1998, 22 years ago. Do you have evidence that his election was tainted by foreign interference? You don't, but even if you had, you're implying that you support foreign interference in our elections today. I don't understand why you don't own it. If you think foreign interference in our elections is a good thing, don't be shy about it. Shout it from the rooftops. Be a man about it.
 
The last Clinton elected to the presidency was Bill in 1998, 22 years ago. Do you have evidence that his election was tainted by foreign interference? You don't, but even if you had, you're implying that you support foreign interference in our elections today. I don't understand why you don't own it. If you think foreign interference in our elections is a good thing, don't be shy about it. Shout it from the rooftops. Be a man about it.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. If anybody wishes to offer up an opinion as to whom should win then I support it. As the leader of the free world, I expect the rest of the world to have opinions and a vested interest in who wins.
 
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. If anybody wishes to offer up an opinion as to whom should win then I support it. As the leader of the free world, I expect the rest of the world to have opinions and a vested interest in who wins.

We're not talking about "opinions" and you know it. So unless you're going to participate in real dialogue, we're done here.
 
We're not talking about "opinions" and you know it. So unless you're going to participate in real dialogue, we're done here.

Run away then if you have nothing to offer but xenophobia toward non-american citizens.
 
The American People Are Being Scammed by Mitch McConnell

Senators have a duty to conduct a fair and full trial. The Republican leader is trying to make sure they can’t.

234115.png

No Witnesses — No Documents. You'll only see this in the Senate courtroom of Mitch McConnell.



'Midnight' Mitch McConnell has his marching orders from President 'Access Hollywood' — prevent former National Security Adviser John Bolton, Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Senior Adviser to the Acting White House Chief of Staff Robert Blair, and Office of Management and Budget official Michael Duffey from testifying in front of the US Senate and the American people at all costs. And do not allow the Senate to subpoena trial-critical Executive Branch documents that impeachment defendant Donald Trump has walled-off in the darkest recesses of the White House.

In no other courtroom in America will you be able to watch as relevant witness/material evidence is purposefully and willfully withheld. This is the courtroom of Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Little different than the sham trials held in Reconstruction America or the choreographed show- trials held today in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: The guilty verdict on the Republican party

The Senate makes all the rules. Get over it.
 
Is that the latest? And therefore, any trial they do conduct, no matter how farcical, is more than their obligation?

So far from what I've seen, the Dems are laying out a solid case, with a verified timeline, and their most compelling witness so far is Trump himself in his own words. All I've seen from the president's team is insults. They haven't disputed any of the facts presented. They must be under the impression that there is nothing to be concerned about. Apparently, the GOP senate is going to listen to the evidence presented and then summarily acquit the president. They will in essence be saying "There is nothing wrong with the president soliciting interference from foreign governments in our elections."

This is the guy who declared he could shoot someone and not lose any votes. In other words he can do anything and not be held accountable.

Yup. Any Senator who maintains, "Abuse of Power is not impeachable" is saying that the Constitution grants the president the power to use his office for corrupt purposes.
 
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