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Shiffs opening statement???

GDViking

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I think he nailed it, be was VERY informative of the order of the facts, and succinctly explained exactly why what the defendant had done against the Constitution and the good for our nation.

I can't wait to hear cultists try to debate his allegations...
 
GDViking said:
I think he nailed it, be was VERY informative of the order of the facts, and succinctly explained exactly why what the defendant had done against the Constitution and the good for our nation.

I can't wait to hear cultists try to debate his allegations...
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He is incredibly intelligent and articulate.

But don't expect these folks to be convinced. Heck they don't even get convinced by the unanimous consensus of every single scientific organization on the entire planet- on a scientific issue.
 
ataraxia said:
He is incredibly intelligent and articulate.

But don't expect these folks to be convinced. Heck they don't even get convinced by the unanimous consensus of every single scientific organization on the entire planet- on a scientific issue.
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He presented false evidence, twice.
 
"We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower." Adam Schiff

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GDViking said:
I think he nailed it, be was VERY informative of the order of the facts, and succinctly explained exactly why what the defendant had done against the Constitution and the good for our nation.

I can't wait to hear cultists try to debate his allegations...
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Based on second and third hand conjecture. People in the state department who did not like Trump and didn't like his foreign policy of America First. Their iinterest was tainted by their personal wishes. They work for the Presidents foreign policy not their own.
 
trixare4kids said:
"We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower." Adam Schiff

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Yawn. There is no evidence that Schiff himself ever did, and when his office was contacted by the WB, they followed the letter of the law and told him/her to get an attorney and communicate through that attorney.

Why do you hate the rule of law?
 
Integrityrespec said:
Based on second and third hand conjecture. People in the state department who did not like Trump and didn't like his foreign policy of America First. Their iinterest was tainted by their personal wishes. They work for the Presidents foreign policy not their own.
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Wrong. The IG made a very rare public statement stating that the WB had first hand knowledge. There is sworn congressional testimony from people with first hand knowledge.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yawn. There is no evidence that Schiff himself ever did, and when his office was contacted by the WB, they followed the letter of the law and told him/her to get an attorney and communicate through that attorney.

Why do you hate the rule of law?
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...According to Schiff, a documented liar. Besides, Adam used "we", and because "we" includes both Adam Ant and his staff, he's still lying.
 
GDViking said:
I think he nailed it, be was VERY informative of the order of the facts, and succinctly explained exactly why what the defendant had done against the Constitution and the good for our nation.

I can't wait to hear cultists try to debate his allegations...
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"Succinct"? The pencil neck went on for two and a half hours! With all his awesome, uncontested and incredibly solid evidence one would figure he could have been done in 10 minutes!
 
humbolt said:
...According to Schiff, a documented liar. Besides, Adam used "we", and because "we" includes both Adam Ant and his staff, he's still lying.
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You cling to whatever desperate thread you need to to maintain the fantasy. I'll stick with reality, thanks.
 
GDViking said:
I think he nailed it, be was VERY informative of the order of the facts, and succinctly explained exactly why what the defendant had done against the Constitution and the good for our nation.

I can't wait to hear cultists try to debate his allegations...
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Succinctly even! :roll:

The biggest liar short of Trump himself.
 
apdst said:
He presented false evidence, twice.
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Yet you find it acceptable when the president presents falsehoods on a daily basis 4 years.

Sometimes you can answer a question in such a way that creates a misunderstanding whereby when pinned down you accept that you could have stated the case more clearly -- i.e., the state of your mind wasn't articulated perfectly and the words you hastily chose created the wrong idea about what you actually meant. The PolitiFact article you are stealing the image from acknowledges that fact but you conveniently left it out.

In public career spanning decades there is no one on this Earth who has not misspoken on occasion and those who seek to discredit anyone for such a thing is to discredit everyone given the simple truth that no one is immune from this human tendency.

Therefore I find it rather hypocritical for people like yourself to single out Schiff for this in a blatant attempt to discredit him when the man you are apparently defending has been acknowledged to have lied to the American public over 15,000 times since he took office
 
apdst said:
He presented false evidence, twice.
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Since when do conservatives care about being lied to? I thought your ability to internalize untruths was the conservative super power. Who else could so eagerly consume such doozies as Jesus, the "free" market, the climate change conspiracy and Trump, the martyr-messiah. C'mon, dude, there's many worse lies being swallowed on the right.

The only problem here is that Schiff's lies aren't grandiose or magical enough to get conservatives on board.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
You cling to whatever desperate thread you need to to maintain the fantasy. I'll stick with reality, thanks.
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Unfortunately for you, Schiff has already been confirmed to be a liar by independent sources. But you go with him. If his crap blows up, and there's a better than even chance it will, I imagine you'll take a little vacation from DP until it blows over. That's a profile in courage, right there.
 
Anyone calling Trump supporters "cultists" does not deserve any kind of explanation. Now or ever.

Grow up.
 
humbolt said:
...According to Schiff, a documented liar. Besides, Adam used "we", and because "we" includes both Adam Ant and his staff, he's still lying.
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I love the irony of any Trump supporter complaining that some other guy is a “documented liar”
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Wrong. The IG made a very rare public statement stating that the WB had first hand knowledge. There is sworn congressional testimony from people with first hand knowledge.
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And Trumps own words, and his own people's words

Doesn't matter, right wingers proven themselves to be the Taliban so they will believe whatever they want

D_NATURED said:
Since when do conservatives care about being lied to? I thought your ability to internalize untruths was the conservative super power. Who else could so eagerly consume such doozies as Jesus, the "free" market, the climate change conspiracy and Trump, the martyr-messiah. C'mon, dude, there's many worse lies being swallowed on the right.

The only problem here is that Schiff's lies aren't grandiose or magical enough to get conservatives on board.
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Amazing, how they think projection is an argument. They are the biggest liars ever, and yet they think their calls of liar to dems actually means anything? While they elect lying scum like Trump? LOL
 
D_NATURED said:
Since when do conservatives care about being lied to? I thought your ability to internalize untruths was the conservative super power. Who else could so eagerly consume such doozies as Jesus, the "free" market, the climate change conspiracy and Trump, the martyr-messiah. C'mon, dude, there's many worse lies being swallowed on the right.

The only problem here is that Schiff's lies aren't grandiose or magical enough to get conservatives on board.
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OscarLevant said:
Yet you find it acceptable when the president presents falsehoods on a daily basis 4 years.

Sometimes you can answer a question in such a way that creates a misunderstanding whereby when pinned down you accept that you could have stated the case more clearly -- i.e., the state of your mind wasn't articulated perfectly and the words you hastily chose created the wrong idea about what you actually meant. The PolitiFact article you are stealing the image from acknowledges that fact but you conveniently left it out.

In public career spanning decades there is no one on this Earth who has not misspoken on occasion and those who seek to discredit anyone for such a thing is to discredit everyone given the simple truth that no one is immune from this human tendency.

Therefore I find it rather hypocritical for people like yourself to single out Schiff for this in a blatant attempt to discredit him when the man you are apparently defending has been acknowledged to have lied to the American public over 15,000 times since he took office
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You obviously don't have a problem with Democrats submitting false evidence. You're actually defending it.
 
Drowning Man said:
I love the irony of any Trump supporter complaining that some other guy is a “documented liar”
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It's great, isn't it? Trump doesn't have to power the impeach Schiff, however.

And it seems Schiff diesn't either, now. He can't even lie his way into it.
 
Dayton3 said:
Anyone calling Trump supporters "cultists" does not deserve any kind of explanation. Now or ever.

Grow up.
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LOL. OF course, Trump supporters don't like the truth, so stick you head up the ass. Trump supporters are the biggest babies ever. Don't just grow up, how about Trump supporters grow brain cells and try using them

Notice, other than crying and projecting, you can't post anything of intelligence on the topic, and you just prove Trump supporters are cult members

Drowning Man said:
I love the irony of any Trump supporter complaining that some other guy is a “documented liar”
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Yeah, or tell others to "grow up" for calling Trump supporters cult members, when all they do is name call. All Trump does is name call. Once again, their calling of liberals snow flakes is just projection like everything else they say


Dayton3 said:
Anyone calling Trump supporters "cultists" does not deserve any kind of explanation. Now or ever.

Grow up.
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Integrityrespec said:
Based on second and third hand conjecture. People in the state department who did not like Trump and didn't like his foreign policy of America First. Their iinterest was tainted by their personal wishes. They work for the Presidents foreign policy not their own.
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How is helping Russia by withholding military aid to Ukraine putting America first? The people who testified against Trump main concern was that he was endangering American interests and security and could not understand why he was doing that.
 
humbolt said:
Unfortunately for you, Schiff has already been confirmed to be a liar by independent sources. But you go with him. If his crap blows up, and there's a better than even chance it will, I imagine you'll take a little vacation from DP until it blows over. That's a profile in courage, right there.
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Again, whatever you have to tell yourself to escape reality. No skin off my teeth.
 
this is a battle between good (mostly midwestern and southern men and women) against evil (mostly everyone else).

they have laid down and let Trump walk all over them because he is New York City slick and they can't see his game.

don't expect any of them to hold Trump accountable. they think the American way of life can only be saved by the Manhattan adulterer.
 
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