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Remember "The Stand"?

Rising Sun said:
Why do you not see levels of survival rates varying by levels of medical care as relevant to Chicken Little predictions of plague?
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?? Where did I write that?

I did answer it however, with respect to exactly what you did ask, the last para of what you quoted.
 
Scarsgard should be far better than Sheridan as the protagonist

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Flagg, then and now
 
Re: The horror

Checkerboard Strangler said:
Amber Heard does not have what Laura has.
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I've never seen Heard act. I've liked San Giacomo since "Sex Lies and Video Tape." She blew Andi McDowell away. Which does bring up a point: James Spader would have made an excellent Flagg in 1994.
 
Re: The horror

calamity said:
I've never seen Heard act. I've liked San Giacomo since "Sex Lies and Video Tape." She blew Andi McDowell away. Which does bring up a point: James Spader would have made an excellent Flagg in 1994.
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I've appreciated Laura since "Pretty Woman", which is a movie I can barely stomach watching but I always stop to stare and appreciate her cameo role in it anyway.
Okay enough of Checkers' drooling, LOL.
 
Lursa said:
?? Where did I write that?

I did answer it however, with respect to exactly what you did ask, the last para of what you quoted.
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Then I'm confused by your replies to my posts on the matter since that's what I've been saying.

Just so we're clear, you do agree that not everyone on the planet has easy access to Ibuprofen and acetaminophen?
 
Rising Sun said:
Then I'm confused by your replies to my posts on the matter since that's what I've been saying.

Just so we're clear, you do agree that not everyone on the planet has easy access to Ibuprofen and acetaminophen?
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No, not really. Such an extreme seems only 'convenient to an argument.'

And it still has little to nothing to do with the topic.
 
Lursa said:
No, not really. Such an extreme seems only 'convenient to an argument.'

And it still has little to nothing to do with the topic.
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“The flu only kills poor people in ****hole countries.”

Though that may be the case for many diseases and countless other heath matters, like open heart surgery or even acute appendicitis, it certainly isn’t for the flu virus. Except for replenishing fluids intravenously or maybe offering an ice bath for a patient spiking a 105 degree fever, surviving the flu is mostly independent of medical intervention.

The ignorance we have to deal with astounds me sometimes.
 
Lursa said:
The Stand is my favorite book, and there's even a longer version that got published later. It very well may be what initiated my fascination with microbiology and epidemiology.

Btw, where the Wuhan virus showed up in the US...heh, 20 minutes from my house.

I'm not too alarmed by this but it's a good learning experience...the environmental conditions in the far east where a variety of animals are penned closely together and then interact with humans is a veritable disease breeding ground.
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Me too. I read it twice.
 
I know everyone likes to minimize these things, as they do with others, like AGW or what have you, but this is a clear sign that this is not a nothingburger.

US chartering flight to evacuate Americans and diplomats out of China amid coronavirus outbreak - CNNPolitics

The US government is arranging a charter flight to evacuate diplomats from the Chinese city that has become ground zero for a new deadly strain of coronavirus, a US official with knowledge of the matter told CNN Saturday.
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Back in the day, The Stand was a horror book. Now, with 7 Billion people choking the planet, I have to wonder if it wasn't one of those fantasy books many of us secretly wish would come true.

Odds are good more than a few of us would cheer the death of a few billion humans. Personally, I'd say I'm on the fence with that thought.
 
calamity said:
“The flu only kills poor people in ****hole countries.”

Though that may be the case for many diseases and countless other heath matters, like open heart surgery or even acute appendicitis, it certainly isn’t for the flu virus. Except for replenishing fluids intravenously or maybe offering an ice bath for a patient spiking a 105 degree fever, surviving the flu is mostly independent of medical intervention.

The ignorance we have to deal with astounds me sometimes.
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I have no idea what his point is anymore in responding to me. I dont know what argument he is trying to make.

It may indeed be along the lines of your first sentence, which of course I completely disagree with.
 
calamity said:
Back in the day, The Stand was a horror book. Now, with 7 Billion people choking the planet, I have to wonder if it wasn't one of those fantasy books many of us secretly wish would come true.

Odds are good more than a few of us would cheer the death of a few billion humans. Personally, I'd say I'm on the fence with that thought.
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Yup, that was pretty much my initial attraction to that book. I dreamed of being that old woman, sitting on her porch, looking out at nothing but corn and blue sky, with not a soul in sight.

If I could live without seeing or hearing another person all day now, I'd love it...as it is now, I like my rural location, and I can still pretty easily go and enjoy time with friends when I choose.
 
Still don't know why people are freaking out about some obscure virus that has killed a few dozen people. Diseases we've known about for centuries routinely kill a million times more people every year.
 
Lursa said:
The Stand is my favorite book, and there's even a longer version that got published later. It very well may be what initiated my fascination with microbiology and epidemiology.

Btw, where the Wuhan virus showed up in the US...heh, 20 minutes from my house.

I'm not too alarmed by this but it's a good learning experience...the environmental conditions in the far east where a variety of animals are penned closely together and then interact with humans is a veritable disease breeding ground.
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I do think human's biggest threat of wiping us out will be from microbes of some sort. I'm just burned out at all the alarmism over the years. First mad cow disease was going to kill us. Soon after the Swine Flu would do it. Then the Bird Flu was definitely going to get us. Then Ebola out of West Africa. Kind of numb to it at this point unless the numbers go crazy.

I'm more scared of the anti-vaxxers doing it to us than something new rising up.
 
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Dayton3 said:
Still don't know why people are freaking out about some obscure virus that has killed a few dozen people. Diseases we've known about for centuries routinely kill a million times more people every year.
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The fear is that this flu doesn't respond to anti-biotics.
 
poweRob said:
The fear is that this flu doesn't respond to anti-biotics.
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No flu responds to anti-biotics.

Anti-biotics dont work on viruses.
 
Antibiotics ineffectual against viruses?

poweRob said:
The fear is that this flu doesn't respond to anti-biotics.
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Um - I thought that was true of antibiotics in general - they're ineffective against viruses. Antibiotics are typically good against bacteria, but a virus is a different kind of critter.
 
Lursa said:
No flu responds to anti-biotics.

Anti-biotics dont work on viruses.
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ahh.... Then it must be unresponsive to something that usually works?
 
Lursa said:
Which anti-biotics cure viral diseases?
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None that I know of. I was deferring to you and was asking if there were some other treatment that this one is getting around which is making it seem scarier...
 
poweRob said:
None that I know of. I was deferring to you and was asking if there were some other treatment that this one is getting around which is making it seem scarier...
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Vaccines are developed to help prevent viral disease but most cannot be 'cured,' immune system and physiological system support are the main treatment. In some cases, vaccines or altered viruses can be injected during the disease phase to trigger the immune system to recognize and attack the virus in the host.
 
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