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Remembering the Hillary PUMAs for 2008 (re: Bernie Bros)

Dans La Lune

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Finally putting a fork in the Bernie Bros narrative from the HRC camp. ENJOY.





 
That wasn't a thing.
 
It's right.

Hillary 2008: PUMAs, 25% of her supports didn't vote for Obama
Hillary 2016: Demands unity from Bernie supporters backing her, Bernie campaigns harder for her than anyone else
Hillary 2020: Slanders Bernie, refuses to say she'll support him if nominated

Hillary is a plutocrat opposing the Democratic Party representing the American people. She is opposed to unity in the party, unless it's unity for her and her allies. Her faction of the party is the biggest threat to a unified party representing the American people. She is divisive, and that helps Republicans win. She should be shunned.
 
Bernie could have avoided the smear if he just ran as a Third Party candidate and not try to hijack the Democrats. Oh, wait:

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I thank God that Hillary lost. She would have been a disaster for this country.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Bernie could have avoided the smear if he just ran as a Third Party candidate and not try to hijack the Democrats. Oh, wait:

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Yeah, the Republicans have a very similar wheel as well. It's one of the reasons I vote third party. The Main Party has built itself a comfortable control and guarantees of power. Neither wing of the Main Party actually wants to change, they're making a lot of money and they essentially cannot lose power. They've, thus, isolated themselves from the People. Even all this "just run in the party" mantra is just Main Party Propaganda BS.

The only way to break the control of the Main Party is by supporting third parties. Only then will they start to listen to the People again as they try to once again cement their control.
 
Sanders supporters are still crying about Clinton? Time to move on and prepare for your excuses after he fails this year.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Bernie could have avoided the smear if he just ran as a Third Party candidate and not try to hijack the Democrats. Oh, wait:
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The political reality is that the country has a split, let's say, of 40% nutjob Republicans, 30% progressives, 30% corporatist Democrats, 10% other, and independents who are mixed and outside the percents there.

So if progressives go 'third party' as would make sense for where they disagree with corporatist Democrats, they'd simply split the non-Republican vote in half and hand the elections to Republicans. So the only way for a non-Republican to win is for 'unity' between the progressives and factions.

For decades, that has meant progressives having to hold their nose and vote for the corporatist nominees - Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, etc. In 2016, they did so and Hillary lost a close election.

Now, of course, as we always suspected, the corporatist wing is a lot more fond of 'unity' if it's for progressives to support them, than for them to support a progressive nominee, as we see with Hillary having the narcissism, the selfishness, the betrayal, and the gall to not commit to support Bernie if nominated.

The progressives are trying to gain control of the party, and expect the corporatists to support a progressive nominee over a Republican. In 2008, 25% of Hillary's supporters wouldn't even support Obama. We'll see.
 
Redress said:
Sanders supporters are still crying about Clinton? Time to move on and prepare for your excuses after he fails this year.
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Actually, Clinton is still crying about Sanders, and it's her failures we're still dealing with with trump in the White House. People like you and Hillary are why the country is in such trouble.
 
Grandpappy said:
I thank God that Hillary lost. She would have been a disaster for this country.
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Just probably a lot less of a disaster than trump, but you're a cult member who would think trump nuking 90% of the planet would be great, so there's no point talking to you. You praise the harm trump causes.
 
Craig234 said:
Just probably a lot less of a disaster than trump, but you're a cult member who would think trump nuking 90% of the planet would be great, so there's no point talking to you. You praise the harm trump causes.
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Lowest minority unemployment in history! :cool:
 
Redress said:
Sanders supporters are still crying about Clinton?
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No, Hillary is still crying about Sanders.

Hillary Clinton says 'nobody likes' Bernie Sanders and won't commit to backing him if he's the Democratic nominee - CNNPolitics

Time to move on and prepare for your excuses after he fails this year.
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Fail in what regard? He's leading.

The real question is whether or not Hillary, Biden, and Third Way, will do as much work to support Bernie as he did for Hillary in 2016. I suspect they won't. Just a hunch.
 
Trump appreciates the support of Sanders’s supporters in dividing the anti-trump vote.
 
Dans La Lune said:
The only way Dems can lose is if they put forth a worse candidate than Hillary Clinton.

Biden is like, "Hold my beer."
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Yes if Bernie isn't the nominee we might as well all vote for Trump. That is how it went in 2016 too and it worked perfectly.
 
Linc said:
Trump appreciates the support of Sanders’s supporters in dividing the anti-trump vote.
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I think we should all coalescence around the strongest candidate. Hillary thinks otherwise.
 
Dans La Lune said:
I think we should all coalescence around the strongest candidate. Hillary thinks otherwise.
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As long as that candidate is Bernie, right? If he gets "cheated" again all bets are off. That is the recipe for failure.
 
Grandpappy said:
Lowest minority unemployment in history! :cool:
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Which would have been as low or lower under Hillary, since it's from the economy continuing the same direction, not anything trump did.
 
iguanaman said:
As long as that candidate is Bernie, right? If he gets "cheated" again all bets are off. That is the recipe for failure.
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Again, Bernie supported Hillary fully in 2016. The facts do not bear out your assessment. I suspect that the establishment, Hillary, Biden, and Third Way Democrats will not support Bernie if he gets the nomination. Because he threatens their entire base of power: Money.

Large swaths of Hillary supporters wouldn’t even support Obama, as this thread proves. And Obama was establishment!
 
Dans La Lune said:
Bernie threw his full support behind Hillary in 2016.
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While Hillary's PUMAs made 25% of her supporters not vote for Obama in 2008, and she threatens not to support Bernie in 2020 if nominated. "Bernie Bros" are really "Hillary Bros" - a mostly fictitious invention she made up, just as she did to cry Obama was sexist and 'Obama boys'.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Again, Bernie supported Hillary fully in 2016. The facts do not bear out your assessment. I suspect that the establishment, Hillary, Biden, and Third Way Democrats will not support Bernie if he gets the nomination. Because he threatens their entire base of power: Money.

Large swaths of Hillary supporters wouldn’t even support Obama, as this thread proves. And Obama was establishment!
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Yes the Democratic party is corrupt and that is why so many Bernie supporters voted for Trump. Your comment clarifies why poor Bernie is such a loser for the progressive cause. He can't win and instead he drives people away from those that can. He is also Trump's dream candidate. Moderates will flee in droves from his "socialist" ideology, Putin will scour his archives for dirt and Trump will benefit. I am not looking forward to pics and videos of Bernies honeymoon in Moscow are you?
 
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iguanaman said:
Yes the Democratic party is corrupt and that is why so many Bernie supporters voted for Trump.
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Again, this is a false narrative. More PUMAs (Hillary’s ‘Party Unity My Ass’ supporters) voted for McCain/Palin than Bernie Supporters voted for Trump. Also, according to Emerson Polling, Biden and Buttigieg voters are the most likely to betray the Democratic Party to Trump. Bernie supporters the least likely.

Your comment clarifies why poor Bernie is such a loser for the progressive cause. He can't win and instead he drives people away from those that can.
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Bernie can’t make Hillary or Biden appealing candidates. Even though he did his level best with Hillary.

He is also Trump's dream candidate. Moderates will flee in droves from his ideology, Putin will scour his archives for dirt and Trump will benefit. I am not looking forward to pics and videos of Bernies honeymoon in Moscow are you?
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I can’t hear you over the sound of Bernie winning the primaries, against the tide of the media, the establishment, people like you — and sore losers like Hillary who blame their failures on everyone else.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Again, this is a false narrative. More PUMAs (Hillary’s ‘Party Unity My Ass’ supporters) voted for McCain/Palin than Bernie Supporters voted for Trump. Also, according to Emerson Polling, Biden and Buttigieg voters are the most likely to betray the Democratic Party to Trump. Bernie supporters the least likely.



Bernie can’t make Hillary or Biden appealing candidates. Even though he did his level best with Hillary.



I can’t hear you over the sound of Bernie winning the primaries, against the tide of the media, the establishment, people like you — and sore losers like Hillary who blame their failures on everyone else.
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Yes I see you are already blaming others for his loss to Trump and he will lose if nominated. Meanwhile he is supporting Trump if he loses. He keeps repeating the same falsehood that gave Trump the win in 2016.

Sanders Says 2016 Was Rigged, Won’t Pledge to Support Winner
 
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