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No Evidence.............

Moderate Right said:
The House rushed to impeach before they had the evidence. Therefore, we go with the evidence the House used to impeach. If they wanted more evidence then they should have waited until they had more evidence and then impeached.
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So you dont want more evidence. You dont want the truth be it good or bad.


That's sad for America
 
Luckyone said:
They should know of Trump's guilt "or" innocence given that they were involved in the decisions made regarding Ukraine.

They can supply evidence for or against Trump's guilt. Why is Trump and McConnell not willing to let them testify. They are Republicans and work for Trump and known to "favor" Trump. Why not allow the evidence to come out?

Answer the question.
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First the Senate has only temporarily blocked the dog and pony show put on by Schiff in the House. Schumer knows better than this.
 
Moderate Right said:
Since before Trump took office Democrats have put themselves first in their obsession with getting Trump.
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By the way, I want you to know that you have surpassed by limit of patience and I will not respond to any more posts from you!
 
Moderate Right said:
The House rushed to impeach before they had the evidence. Therefore, we go with the evidence the House used to impeach. If they wanted more evidence then they should have waited until they had more evidence and then impeached.
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the entire impeachment charade was a campaign ploy by the democrats.
 
The gop:


We dont want ALL of the evidence.


We just want SOME of the evidence
 
Moderate Right said:
We are following the Constitution. The House impeached and now the Senate is having a trial and then will vote on removing Trump from office.
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Don't trials generally have witnesses?

Yeah, Hitler followed their constitution too. See what it got them?
 
TurtleDude said:
I have asked you what actual statute Trump violated. Your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever
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By the way, I want you to know that you have surpassed my limit of patience and I will not respond to any more posts from you!
 
Lutherf said:
There is something else beside impeachment that's going on with this process instigated by Democrats. The Democrats are trying to change our very form of government. They want to get rid of the Constitutional Republic and implement a parliamentary system based on Social Justice. They want their "Social Democracy" and are using this process to sway the American public to their way of thinking. We have seen this process bubble up in reaction to the Trayvon Martin case, the Mike Brown case, the Kavanaugh confirmation, abuse of public accommodations laws, reaction to border security and immigration policy and, most distinctly, the opposition to the Electoral College. In order to effect a change such as transition to a new form of government the Democrats need to get the people to believe in a few concepts that our Constitution expressly protects against. The first of those concepts is that "justice" is whatever the majority of the population says it is. That's why we have seen guys like Robert Mueller claim that his investigation couldn't exonerate the accused. That's why we have seen the Senate Judiciary Committee savage Justice Kavanaugh over baseless accusations from 40 years ago and that's why a whole bevy of Democrats are this week arguing that Trump needs to clear his own name. It's a seductive argument because we all want to live a life free from unfounded accusations but if that kind of thinking is allowed to metastasize the result is that it turns the entire concept of individual liberty on which this nation was founded around backward.

If the "Social Justice" method is adopted in this country then we will no longer be a self-governing nation. We will become a nation of subjects forever under the thumb of a ruling class which chooses our destinies for us and punishes us when we fail to properly appreciate their "benevolence".
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I agree with the post above. My observations started with FDR and his regime. So I have seen this entire dog and pony show play out.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Right now, Schiff and his cabal do not have proof to convict Trump. This is why they now want the Senate to provide proof. It is not the job of the Senate to provide proof. Schiff had several years of effort when he could have done it himself. So he failed. And he wants rewards! I say do not reward the man.
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So a successful stonewalling to obstruct justice is okay with you.

That is really sad.
 
Lutherf said:
It's not their job to testify about something that Schiff simply made up.
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By the way, I want you to know that you have surpassed my limit of patience and I will not respond to any more posts from you!
 
Robertinfremont said:
You don't have clue one what Bolton will say. And when he says Trump is not guilty, then where do you go?
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I'm really curious by what he meant about Trump's "drug deal."

Trump's own EU ambassador testified that Trump was in the quid pro quo for personal gain, and the transcript illustrates it. Many others testified to it.

Are his lawyers even arguing that Trump didn't do it?
 
vegas giants said:
So you dont want more evidence. You dont want the truth be it good or bad.


That's sad for America
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It was the House's job to get more evidence before they impeached. They refused to wait to get more evidence.
 
Luckyone said:
By the way, I want you to know that you have surpassed by limit of patience and I will not respond to any more posts from you!
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LOL. Sure you will. But, I do accept your complete and total surrender.
 
Moderate Right said:
It was the House's job to get more evidence before they impeached. They refused to wait to get more evidence.
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Its is not the job of the senate to search for the truth.....even when it is right in front of them and Bolton says he has information pertaining to the impeachment?


That is a sad day for America
 
Luckyone said:
How can you be more wrong is beyond my ability to understand.

If this was about one man (Schiff) inventing all of this I would be willing to give you a point. Nonetheless, let me remind you that the Ukraine problem started with the whistle blower and then it spread to all the other people that were involved that Trump did not put a kabosh on. Witnesses were brought that testified against Trump. Schiff did not INVENT this, he simple followed up where the facts were taking him.

There is even more evidence available of people that were personally involved in the Ukraine thing and if this was a Schiff invention, they could uncover it easily by having Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton testify and say that it was all a Schiff invention.

Once again I ask you, why are not the Republicans allowing witnesses that would prove that Schiff invented all of this? Why keep the sham going on and on when just one person involved could put a stop to it by simply testifying that it is a sham.

Does Trump not care about the expenses the American people are spending to keep this sham going on?

Luther, is seems that you are simply a Trump cult member that has been brainwashed to avoid common sense and ply Trump's lies. How are you any different from Schiff? You seem to be inventing your own idea of what the truth is. You are not seeking truth but seeking to prove your point, just as you accuse Schiff of doing!

I suggest you take a look at yourself first, before you open your mouth to talk about anyone else. You don't seem to know who you are and if that is true, you cannot know who anyone else is,
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The first thing you need to remember is that foreign policy is an executive branch function, not a legislative branch one. If the president changes his mind about an existing policy then that's entirely within his authority to do so. If the State Department folks don't like his new policy then they can tell him about it or quit. They don't get to be the ones to decide that it's "wrong". The second thing you need to remember is that the only thing that might possibly make Trump's Ukraine policy an abuse of power is if he was exercising some policy SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of influencing the 2020 campaign. There has been ZERO evidence of such a scheme and EVERYTHING along those lines that has come out is purely speculative. In fact, the only direct evidence of anything Ukraine phone call elated has been with regard to the 2016 election.

Schiff and the Democrats have concocted a story they believe will benefit them in the 2020 election and are promoting that narrative through the media and this impeachment. They have no evidence of anything close to a crime or close to abuse of power but want to use the spotlight of a televised impeachment show to promote their narrative.
 
Luckyone said:
By the way, I want you to know that you have surpassed my limit of patience and I will not respond to any more posts from you!
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Why thank you: but I will continue to point out the hysterical bias and nonsense posts that contain such twaddle.
 
Moderate Right said:
LOL. Sure you will. But, I do accept your complete and total surrender.
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It appears he will only be conversing with other members of the hate Trump club.
 
I guess the gop does not want to hear all the evidence
 
j brown's body said:
Don't trials generally have witnesses?

Yeah, Hitler followed their constitution too. See what it got them?
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Trials actually have evidence. that may include witnesses.
 
Luckyone said:
What?

Biden doing quid pro quo would not exonerate Trump as he would be doing the same as Biden and that means that BOTH are guilty.
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Wrong. It means trump investigating him was legit. Running for President doesnt give you immunity for committing crime does it? If Bidens did this Trump is 100% exonerated. Pretty please...lets call witnesses. You ever wonder why Schiff was on TV last night explaining why calling hunter biden was not acceptable?
 
j brown's body said:
Don't trials generally have witnesses?

Yeah, Hitler followed their constitution too. See what it got them?
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The House had their witnesses the used to impeach. They were under oath. Those witness testimonies will be the witnesses in the Senate Trial. But, we don't need to hear from them a second time just repeating what they already said. Therefore, the Senate trial will have witnesses, the very witnesses the House used to impeach.
 
vegas giants said:
Its is not the job of the senate to search for the truth.....even when it is right in front of them and Bolton says he has information pertaining to the impeachment?


That is a sad day for America
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The House impeached. It was their job to search for the truth before they impeached. They didn't.
 
Moderate Right said:
The House had their witnesses the used to impeach. They were under oath. Those witness testimonies will be the witnesses in the Senate Trial. But, we don't need to hear from them a second time just repeating what they already said. Therefore, the Senate trial will have witnesses, the very witnesses the House used to impeach.
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Why not Bolton and Mulvaney? Unless we cant hear what they have to say because it is too scary
 
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