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Trump’s lawyers, Senate GOP allies work privately to ensure Bolton does not testify publicly

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Trump’s lawyers, Senate GOP allies work privately to ensure Bolton does not testify publicly

‘Don’t the American people deserve to know the truth?’ According to Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump's lawyers — a resounding NO!

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1/21/20
President Trump’s legal defense team and Senate GOP allies are quietly gaming out contingency plans should Democrats win enough votes to force witnesses to testify in the impeachment trial, including an effort to keep former national security adviser John Bolton from the spotlight, according to multiple officials familiar with the discussions. While Republicans continue to express confidence that Democrats will fail to persuade four GOP lawmakers to break ranks with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who has opposed calling any witnesses in the trial, they are readying a Plan B just in case — underscoring how uncertain they are about prevailing in a showdown over witnesses and Bolton’s possible testimony.

One option being discussed, according to a senior administration official, would be to move Bolton’s testimony to a classified setting because of national security concerns, ensuring that it is not public.

To receive the testimony in a classified session, Trump’s attorneys would have to request such a step, according to one official, adding that it would probably need the approval of 51 senators. But that proposal, discussed among some Senate Republicans in recent days, is seen as a final tool against Bolton becoming an explosive figure in the trial. First, Republicans involved in the discussions said, would come a fierce battle in the courts. Trump’s trial begins in earnest Tuesday on the two impeachment charges: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. They center on the allegation that Trump withheld military aid and a White House meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political rivals, including former vice president and 2020 candidate Joe Biden. The Trump administration stonewalled the House impeachment probe, denying witnesses and documents.
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The Republicans like to do everything in secret .... they concocted their 2017 healthcare bills and their GOP 2017 tax legislation in secret for example.

Now they want the Senate testimony of John Bolton to be a secret also. Bolton knows a great deal about Trumps "drug deal" regarding Ukraine as Bolton himself so indelicately characterized it.

Why is Trump/GOP going to such lengths to conceal what happened regarding Trumps "perfect call" shakedown of Ukraine? (a strictly rhetorical question)

Because it wasn't 'perfect' at all. Actually, it was a shakedown indistinguishable from your basic mob shakedown. Trump/GOP can't have Americans hearing this ugly truth directly from Trumps National Security Advisor.

Related: Trump Defense Memo Is Wrong About High Crimes and Obstruction
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump’s lawyers, Senate GOP allies work privately to ensure Bolton does not testify publicly

‘Don’t the American people deserve to know the truth?’ According to Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump's lawyers — a resounding NO!

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The Republicans like to do everything in secret .... they concocted their 2017 healthcare bills and their GOP 2017 tax legislation in secret for example.

Now they want the Senate testimony of John Bolton to be a secret also. Bolton knows a great deal about Trumps "drug deal" regarding Ukraine as Bolton himself so indelicately characterized it.

Why is Trump/GOP going to such lengths to conceal what happened regarding Trumps "perfect call" shakedown of Ukraine? (a strictly rhetorical question)

Because it wasn't 'perfect' at all. Actually, it was a shakedown indistinguishable from your basic mob shakedown. Trump/GOP can't have Americans hearing this ugly truth directly from Trumps National Security Advisor.

Related: Trump Defense Memo Is Wrong About High Crimes and Obstruction
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So they are doing what they claim Hillary did on her private server...with a private server? The same private server we know they used to do this before?
 
I'm not convinced that Bolton will throw Mango under the bus. Let's hear Tweety's testimony under oath.
 
Helix said:
I'm not convinced that Bolton will throw Mango under the bus. Let's hear Tweety's testimony under oath.
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He may, and for that reason, the GOP would never let him testify.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump’s lawyers, Senate GOP allies work privately to ensure Bolton does not testify publicly

‘Don’t the American people deserve to know the truth?’ According to Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump's lawyers — a resounding NO!

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The Republicans like to do everything in secret .... they concocted their 2017 healthcare bills and their GOP 2017 tax legislation in secret for example.

Now they want the Senate testimony of John Bolton to be a secret also. Bolton knows a great deal about Trumps "drug deal" regarding Ukraine as Bolton himself so indelicately characterized it.

Why is Trump/GOP going to such lengths to conceal what happened regarding Trumps "perfect call" shakedown of Ukraine? (a strictly rhetorical question)

Because it wasn't 'perfect' at all. Actually, it was a shakedown indistinguishable from your basic mob shakedown. Trump/GOP can't have Americans hearing this ugly truth directly from Trumps National Security Advisor.

Related: Trump Defense Memo Is Wrong About High Crimes and Obstruction
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This is the kind of hearing they'd have in Russia if Putin got impeached.

No witnesses, no documents, the president is allowed to hold back witnesses and documents and you have the state run media (fox news) lying about every single detail.

The republican party is broken. It's fighting to be the most anti-american institution in this country.
 
The Senate is actively obstructing justice at this hour.
 
The Trump haters are whining and crying already. It's as if they already know that, once again, they won't get what they want.

Too bad...
 
Mycroft said:
The Trump haters are whining and crying already. It's as if they already know that, once again, they won't get what they want.

Too bad...
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Considering the evidence, and now the attempted suppression thereof, what you just posted is a disgraceful, and shameful, statement. Your indoctrination is now complete.
 
element94 said:
The Senate is actively obstructing justice at this hour.
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it is why, Equal protection of the law matters. Whatever precedent is fixed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, must be binding on Any other Article III Court of the United States. Go ahead, rich Persons, make the laws as favorable as you want.
 
Mycroft said:
The Trump haters are whining and crying already. It's as if they already know that, once again, they won't get what they want.

Too bad...
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You really love fascism don't you?


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Rogue Valley said:
Trump’s lawyers, Senate GOP allies work privately to ensure Bolton does not testify publicly

‘Don’t the American people deserve to know the truth?’ According to Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump's lawyers — a resounding NO!

trumps-lawyers-senate-gop-allies-work-privately-to-ensure-bolton-does-not-testify-publicly-585x390.jpg




The Republicans like to do everything in secret .... they concocted their 2017 healthcare bills and their GOP 2017 tax legislation in secret for example.

Now they want the Senate testimony of John Bolton to be a secret also. Bolton knows a great deal about Trumps "drug deal" regarding Ukraine as Bolton himself so indelicately characterized it.

Why is Trump/GOP going to such lengths to conceal what happened regarding Trumps "perfect call" shakedown of Ukraine? (a strictly rhetorical question)

Because it wasn't 'perfect' at all. Actually, it was a shakedown indistinguishable from your basic mob shakedown. Trump/GOP can't have Americans hearing this ugly truth directly from Trumps National Security Advisor.

Related: Trump Defense Memo Is Wrong About High Crimes and Obstruction
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Well, you should have subpoenaed him in the House and waited for the courts to decide. You didnt, so all the whining in the world wont help you now.
 
danielpalos said:
it is why, Equal protection of the law matters. Whatever precedent is fixed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, must be binding on Any other Article III Court of the United States. Go ahead, rich Persons, make the laws as favorable as you want.
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There's never enough for them, is there? We are fast approaching a need for, how shall I say... a hostile (opposition) act from the people, whatever that may effectively be.
 
NeverTrump said:
You really love fascism don't you?


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I see nothing fascist about this. Unless you want to contend that our Constitution is fascist. If so, I'd have to disagree with you on that.

Or are you just playing a card?
 
Fletch said:
Well, you should have subpoenaed him in the House and waited for the courts to decide. You didnt, so all the whining in the world wont help you now.
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He said he wanted to testify, but then he didn't want to. Why? He has much to hide.
 
Mycroft said:
I see nothing fascist about this. Unless you want to contend that our Constitution is fascist. If so, I'd have to disagree with you on that.

Or are you just playing a card?
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Then you are blind. It is a blatantly fascistic stance.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump’s lawyers, Senate GOP allies work privately to ensure Bolton does not testify publicly

‘Don’t the American people deserve to know the truth?’ According to Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump's lawyers — a resounding NO!

trumps-lawyers-senate-gop-allies-work-privately-to-ensure-bolton-does-not-testify-publicly-585x390.jpg




The Republicans like to do everything in secret .... they concocted their 2017 healthcare bills and their GOP 2017 tax legislation in secret for example.

Now they want the Senate testimony of John Bolton to be a secret also. Bolton knows a great deal about Trumps "drug deal" regarding Ukraine as Bolton himself so indelicately characterized it.

Why is Trump/GOP going to such lengths to conceal what happened regarding Trumps "perfect call" shakedown of Ukraine? (a strictly rhetorical question)

Because it wasn't 'perfect' at all. Actually, it was a shakedown indistinguishable from your basic mob shakedown. Trump/GOP can't have Americans hearing this ugly truth directly from Trumps National Security Advisor.

Related: Trump Defense Memo Is Wrong About High Crimes and Obstruction
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If lying about sex in the Oval Office is a high crime against the Constitution, then how can offenses against the sanctity of our elections and extortion not be?
Apparently if the GOP likes that stuff enough, it isn't.

What kind of country do these people want?
I've been trying to figure out what it is they want almost forever.
It's clear that they've bought into an alternate narrative in which there are bad guys who must be destroyed, and I'm a-feared to say, apparently it's the rest of us.
Our destruction will bring about their happiness, or so they believe.

Billions of dollars and billions of man-hours have been spent to craft this narrative, this illusion, but the bad news for them is, no amount of money and effort can maintain an illusion forever.

It's what happens in the meantime that concerns me.
After all, if you can be persuaded to believe absurdities, you can be persuaded to commit atrocities, and we're in the third quarter of the Absurdity League Championships already.
If they win, they get to go to the Atrocity Super Bowl.

And we will be playing them sans helmets and personal protective equipment.
Or rules of any kind, other than what they make up.

We have one chance to vote.
 
Mycroft said:
I see nothing fascist about this. Unless you want to contend that our Constitution is fascist. If so, I'd have to disagree with you on that.

Or are you just playing a card?
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What is in the constitution about preventing witnesses from testifying. Please educate me!


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Mycroft said:
The Trump haters are whining and crying already. It's as if they already know that, once again, they won't get what they want.

Too bad...
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What an appalling thing to say! It’s down right un American.

This is not a tv melodrama. It is not the running game of gotcha that keeps right wing AM disc jockeys employed.

This is whether this President, and by extension, any future President can declare himself to be above the law. Immune from any investigation, or indictment. Impeachable, but not required to answer any questions or submit to the same rules of evidence that you would if you were a defendant.

In short, Donald Trump is a king.

This is how democracy dies.

With low information right wingers cheering every step of the way.
 
One of the reasons our Constitution has withstood the test of centuries is its vagueness. Borrowing a phrase from mathematics, we could say that it has proven both necessary and sufficient for the challenges novelty has brought to it. Minor adjustments and the narrowing of definitions have been achieved through infrequent amendments and on-going case law.

The process of impeachment has not been limited to any significant degree save those in the original document. The House of Representatives can, if they agree to do so in sufficient numbers, indict a sitting president for eating a ham sandwich. The Senate, charged with the responsibility of trying an accused president, can interpret 'high crimes and misdemeanors' as not including murder.

When all's said and done, the entire start-to-finish impeachment process is governed to a significant degree by how congressmen feel their own individual actions, including any votes they take, will affect them.

The overall rightness or wrongness of this or that result is the province of future historians. Present opinions, often heavily tainted by all manner of beliefs, should be given little or no weight.

And so it goes.
 
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element94 said:
He said he wanted to testify, but then he didn't want to. Why? He has much to hide.
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You have no idea what he will say. But there was a proper procedure to get his testimony and the House dems didnt want to follow it. You werent complaining then so you cant complain now.
 
TomFitz said:
What an appalling thing to say! It’s down right un American.

This is not a tv melodrama. It is not the running game of gotcha that keeps right wing AM disc jockeys employed.

This is whether this President, and by extension, any future President can declare himself to be above the law. Immune from any investigation, or indictment. Impeachable, but not required to answer any questions or submit to the same rules of evidence that you would if you were a defendant.

In short, Donald Trump is a king.

This is how democracy dies.

With low information right wingers cheering every step of the way.
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Total rubbish. If you wanted additional testimony from Trumps inner circle, the proper way to go about it is through the courts. It is you who are pursuing the un-American avenue by denying due process. You dont care, because...Trump
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump’s lawyers, Senate GOP allies work privately to ensure Bolton does not testify publicly

‘Don’t the American people deserve to know the truth?’ According to Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump's lawyers — a resounding NO!

trumps-lawyers-senate-gop-allies-work-privately-to-ensure-bolton-does-not-testify-publicly-585x390.jpg




The Republicans like to do everything in secret .... they concocted their 2017 healthcare bills and their GOP 2017 tax legislation in secret for example.

Now they want the Senate testimony of John Bolton to be a secret also. Bolton knows a great deal about Trumps "drug deal" regarding Ukraine as Bolton himself so indelicately characterized it.

Why is Trump/GOP going to such lengths to conceal what happened regarding Trumps "perfect call" shakedown of Ukraine? (a strictly rhetorical question)

Because it wasn't 'perfect' at all. Actually, it was a shakedown indistinguishable from your basic mob shakedown. Trump/GOP can't have Americans hearing this ugly truth directly from Trumps National Security Advisor.

Related: Trump Defense Memo Is Wrong About High Crimes and Obstruction
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Just playing by the rules of Executive Privilege. Tell Schiff to release the transcripts from the Whistleblower and then we can start from there.
 
Well after the Republicans take a vote and acquit the President of the phony charges, then the democrats can read it. You know Pass it so we can see what's in it. Nancy.
 
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