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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I agree; I love Klobuchar, but I'm not as fond of Warren. Not to sound misogynistic, but a two-woman ticket will turn off a large segment of the population; we're not all that enlightened as a citizenry so far. A female on the ticket, sure; two will look like estrogen overload to a whole lot of folks, I'm afraid.
    If you think that's misogynistic, then I'm right there with you! My knee jerked when I thought about it. It wouldn't sail. The country is ready for a female POTUS and even a female VPOTUS. But it isn't ready for each one at the same time. Just isn't.
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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistik View Post
    I have no idea how NYT concluded that Klobuchar not only can unite the party, but has in fact 'shown' it; literally and honestly mystified. No one likes her except centrists and blue dogs, and her charisma and presence is roughly on par with Hillary's.
    Frankly, I've had enough of "charisma" in the WH to last until dooms day.

    I like Klobuchar because she's normal and she's smart...and her policies aren't extreme or divisive....and she doesn't have baggage.


    PS: I don't like the NYT...so their endorsement rings hollow with me.
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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    I'd vote for Amy Klobuchar for president. She's not extreme and would be a good palate cleanser after Trump.

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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I have said all along, even before she announced her candidacy, that a Klobuchar/Booker ticket was my personal dream team. I'm not a "blue dog"; purple, perhaps, but not blue... or red.
    I think that would be the equivalent of handing the election to Trump, especially with Klobuchar at the top of the ticket. As I've said elsewhere, she's about as close to a full on rehash of Hillary as you can get in this current primary field, except with the possibility of being even less charismatic. It's as close as you can get to doing the exact same failed strategy and hoping that it'll (somehow) work out this time; I mean you must really expect Booker to make the difference vis a vis Tim Kaine.

    Honestly, why would anyone in their right mind think she could get the left onside, nevermind galvanized and motivated? Not only are her positions essentially anathema among those within the primary field, but she doesn't have the raw charisma to compensate either.
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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If you think that's misogynistic, then I'm right there with you! My knee jerked when I thought about it. It wouldn't sail. The country is ready for a female POTUS and even a female VPOTUS. But it isn't ready for each one at the same time. Just isn't.
    Sadly, I agree.
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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Frankly, I've had enough of "charisma" in the WH to last until dooms day.

    I like Klobuchar because she's normal and she's smart...and her policies aren't extreme or divisive....and she doesn't have baggage.


    PS: I don't like the NYT...so their endorsement rings hollow with me.
    What is 'divisive' to you exactly? I mean if you identify as a centrist, and you very much seem to, yes, I could understand centrist policy and politicos not appearing as such to you.

    Further, whether someone is electable matters. Yes, I agree, I'm tired of Orange Man, but that's precisely one of the main reasons I would shirk Klobuchar as nominee because of the current field I find she has one of the worst chances to actually defeat him. Who does she inspire and galvanize? How does she actually unify her party and get the left onside? How can she appeal to and win over the rust belt when she has neither policy nor charisma that is resonant with them?
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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

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    New York Times editorial board endorses Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar for Democratic nomination





    I'm still reserving judgement on which Democrat candidate I prefer. Let's see how Iowa fleshes out.

    But to be honest, I'll support whomever is victorious at the Democrat convention. Four more years of Trump would be catastrophic for this country, and for the Constitution.
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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistik View Post
    I think that would be the equivalent of handing the election to Trump, especially with Klobuchar at the top of the ticket. As I've said elsewhere, she's about as close to a full on rehash of Hillary as you can get in this current primary field, except with the possibility of being even less charismatic. It's as close as you can get to doing the exact same failed strategy and hoping that it'll (somehow) work out this time; I mean you must really expect Booker to make the difference vis a vis Tim Kaine.

    Honestly, why would anyone in their right mind think she could get the left onside, nevermind galvanized and motivated? Not only are her positions essentially anathema among those within the primary field, but she doesn't have the raw charisma to compensate either.
    You're entitled to your opinion. I completely disagree.
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    Re: NY Times endorses Warren and Klobuchar

    There is no perfect ticket. Not this time around anyway.


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