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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I just modified my OP. Apparently 3X was the factor for the total disparity in fund raising. In individual contributions it's 7X! Yow! That says it all.
    The fact that's happening before we've even committed to a nominee is really something...but you didn't need me to tell you that.

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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    You have Bernie Bros throwing money at Bernie.

    You have Buttigeig supporters throwing money at him, and so on. Once we get to the democrat nominee, we'll see how much money one guy can raise.
    That a fair point. But it's never a bad thing to have highly energetic supporters.

    Here's from further down the article:

    No incumbent president this century has been so thoroughly outraised by a field of challengers in the year before a reelection contest. The main Republican challengers to President Barack Obama in 2012 barely took in more than the incumbent in 2011.
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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The fact that's happening before we've even committed to a nominee is really something...but you didn't need me to tell you that.
    Your observations & insight, which I highly value, are always welcome!
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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Hopefully, Warren and Sanders will each spend $500 million calling each other liars.

    Keep burning up that political money in the primary, Democrats! Burn baby, burn up that money ASAP!

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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Source: (CNBC) The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin — that didn’t happen to Obama or Bush

    I'm posting this here GPD rather BN, due to it striking me as more of an analytic piece.

    I've had posters here post figures showing Trump raising more than Biden or some other Dem nominee, as part of their arguments. But that always struck me as an incorrect argument, because to claim 'Trump is out-raising a specific candidate' does not reflect that the majority of Dem donors may unite in their support of the eventual nominee. In other words, how much are those supporting Dem candidates giving vs those supporting Trump?

    Well, just now, I happened to stumble across my OP article. And it was an eye-opener. If we take the article at its face value, it seems the Dems are clobbering Trump in fundraising by a factor of 3X in total, and by a factor of nearly 7X in individual contributions. I haven't done any further research or verification, but just thought I'd post the article 'as is' here in GPD.

    A sad aside:

    While money may possibly be a sign of support or energy for a candidate, I personally am disgusted that we even have to think in terms of money rather than democracy. If it were up to me, I'd drastically get money out of our political/electoral process.
    Are they counting self-donations like Bloomberg and Steyer? I notice that SIX dems have collected only three times as much as lil ol' Trump.
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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    Be careful about the trap that voters fell for with Hillary. She outspent Trump by a lot and still lost.
    As an aside, I will personally enjoy watching Bloomberg piss away a good chunk of his fortune, trying to destroy Trump.
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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    Be careful about the trap that voters fell for with Hillary. She outspent Trump by a lot and still lost.
    As an aside, I will personally enjoy watching Bloomberg piss away a good chunk of his fortune, trying to destroy Trump.
    Understood. But remember this, from the article:

    2019: Trump had $143.8 million in total receipts, versus $515.6 million for his Democratic challengers. Thatís 28% of his rivalsí total. In individual contributions, the presidentís $76.3 million made up only 16% of the $471.6 million raised by the Democrats.
    *emphasis added

    That huge disparity in individual funding surely can't be a bad thing.
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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    I noticed that no one is brave enough to run against an impeached president from the GOP.
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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonglow View Post
    She lost because of the Electoral College...But won the popular vote..
    Good point. She had the people behind her.
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    Re: The 2020 Democratic field is outraising Trump by a huge margin ó that didnít happen to Obama or

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    Be careful about the trap that voters fell for with Hillary. She outspent Trump by a lot and still lost.
    As an aside, I will personally enjoy watching Bloomberg piss away a good chunk of his fortune, trying to destroy Trump.
    Shhh, just keep agreeing that Trump can't possibly win, all the polls show it and the Democrats are vastly out fund raising him so Trump is toast. It worked last time. Let's do it again.

    I doubt Trump can even win the Republican primary and even if he does he'll lose every state. The entire election will be decided in the Democratic primary over which of them can more totally destroy the other Democratic candidates. If smart, they all would raise every dollar they can, borrow every dollar they can and liquidate everything they each own in the primary, because whoever wins the Democratic primary will win by a near 100% majority vote. The November election is only a formality and probably the House Democrats should pass a resolution canceling the general election to make the point.

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