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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Is the report from Ukraine officials that Hunter Biden received more than $3 million dollars from Burisma shortly after Burisma received a healthy share of the more than $1 billion in stimulus money from America a "conspiracy theory" or can you prove the allegations false? If nobody can prove the allegations false then US investigators should look into these serious allegations of mishandling of American tax dollars. American workers do not donate sizable amounts of their paychecks in taxes to the US government just to have crooks take that money and waste it on themselves and their crooked cronies.
    Wow you should have no problem simply showing what you state is factual. Let me know

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    Why did this require withholding aid? Did the DOJ and FBI, via the TREATY WITH UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS, launch and investigation for violations of the FCPA?

    Why is the Trump administration now looking to modify the FCPA?

    Kudlow says Trump 'looking at' reforming law on bribing foreign officials | TheHill
    Joe Biden claimed he withheld $1 billion American taxpayer dollars in aid to Ukraine until Ukraine effectively shut down its investigation into Burisma, which Ukraine did. New Ukrainian administration officials are now claiming Burisma shuttled more than $3 million of that aid back into Hunter Biden's American bank accounts. That is a serious allegation which should be seriously investigated. American workers do not want crooks taking their money and dividing it among themselves for evil purposes. Trump was right to ask Ukraine to help American investigators look into the possible crimes.

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Nobody has proven the allegations true but Trump was right to ask for Ukrainian help with American investigators in seeking to determine whether the allegations are true or not.
    And thankfully we have treaty that outlines how that help is solicited.. You know who negotiated that treaty? President Bill Clinton... :-)

    Has the administration utilized any of the mechanisms spelled out in that treaty?

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    How the hell do "democrats" have any say in whether the FBI talks to Ukrainian prosecutors?

    Is the Trump administration that weak and ineffective? The Obama administration prosecuted Teva for paying bribes in UKRAINE just before turning it over to Trump...

    SEC.gov | Teva Pharmaceutical Paying $519 Million to Settle FCPA Charges
    Democrats claim Trump obstructed investigations into corruption and yet stand amazed that anyone would accuse democrats of obstructing justice.

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Joe Biden claimed he withheld $1 billion American taxpayer dollars in aid to Ukraine until Ukraine effectively shut down its investigation into Burisma, which Ukraine did.
    Complete FANTASY... Biden told Ukraine to remove a corrupt prosecutor of the US would not support $1 billion in loan guarantees from the IMF. This was the IMF's position as well... No aid was ever withheld...

    New Ukrainian administration officials are now claiming Burisma shuttled more than $3 million of that aid back into Hunter Biden's American bank accounts. That is a serious allegation which should be seriously investigated. American workers do not want crooks taking their money and dividing it among themselves for evil purposes. Trump was right to ask Ukraine to help American investigators look into the possible crimes.
    That would be an absolute violation of the FCPA... Why is the administration not in front of a grand jury with this evidence?

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Democrats claim Trump obstructed investigations into corruption and yet stand amazed that anyone would accuse democrats of obstructing justice.
    Do "democrats" suddenly have the authority to tell the FBI who to talk with? The administration has been in power for THREE years... Are they still conducting OJT?

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Nobody has proven the allegations true but Trump was right to ask for Ukrainian help with American investigators in seeking to determine whether the allegations are true or not.
    How was announcing an investigation going to help anyone but Trump?

    But that's beside the point. In this case you want the accused to prove the allegation false. You want the opposite for Trump.

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    It is obvious someone(s) is lying. We found out in the Trump/Russian conspiracy theory investigation that it was the democrats who were lying. Let's don't assume anything about Ukraine. Maybe the democrats are lying and maybe the Ukrainians are lying. To find out for sure we need investigators to dig into the Ukrainian allegations with the same fervor they dug into the Trump/Russian conspiracy theory investigation.
    The only one who's obviously and publicly lying about this every time he opens his filthy pie-hole is Your Dear ****bag. Just that one lie that he didn't know Parnas has been debunked many times with documents and even a video showing ****bag and Parnas (with his arm around ****bag) together schmoozing with a small group of trumphumpers at Mar-a-Lago which turns out to be the real life version of the Mos Eisley Cantina:

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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Democrats claim Trump obstructed investigations into corruption and yet stand amazed that anyone would accuse democrats of obstructing justice.
    It's not at all amazing that the Cult would try to flip the script and accuse Dems of doing exactly what The Dear Dirtbag did. The Goebbels strategy* is the first line of attack by the ****bag and the Cult.

    *IOW, "projection" in the lingo of psychiatry.
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    Re: Government prosecutors testify of corruption in Ukraine involving Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    And thankfully we have treaty that outlines how that help is solicited.. You know who negotiated that treaty? President Bill Clinton... :-)

    Has the administration utilized any of the mechanisms spelled out in that treaty?
    There is a democrat treaty which prohibits Ukrainian prosecutors from talking with the FBI at the embassy? I have not heard that before but if so it would help resolve the dispute between Trump and Yovanovitch about allowing the FBI to meet with Ukrainian prosecutors.

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