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Food stamp cuts. Get a job, you sack of crap freeloader.

Paradoxical said:
You and I both know that if what Trump did was unconstitutional or even a hint that it was, congress would be drafting a brand new impeachment. Thus, it isn't and wasn't.
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Within the context of this conversation, you have already established that you don’t know.

As for Trump’s violations of the Constitution and his oath of office, Congress has been doing their job working to hold him accountable while the cowed Republican party has been protecting and, in many cases, enabling the president’s worst behaviors.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Within the context of this conversation, you have already established that you don’t know.

As for Trump’s violations of the Constitution and his oath of office, Congress has been doing their job working to hold him accountable while the cowed Republican party has been protecting and, in many cases, enabling the president’s worst behaviors.
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They have included in the articles of impeachment abuse of power which is NOT impeachable, so they could easily include this. IF it were illegal, congress would be screaming like banshees
 
Paradoxical said:
They have included in the articles of impeachment abuse of power which is NOT impeachable, so they could easily include this. IF it were illegal, congress would be screaming like banshees
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Another ignorant “because the Constitution doesn’t explicitly say so” argument. :roll:

Do you really want that to be your argument?
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Another ignorant “because the Constitution doesn’t explicitly say so” argument. :roll:

Do you really want that to be your argument?
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Why should we read into the constitution something that isn't there?

But, tell ya what. Now that the evil ones Schiff, fat boy Nadler, Pelosi and others have had idiotic constitutional scholars say "abuse of power" is really not in the constitution but somehow implied and the equally idiotic majority Congress has gone along with it, just wait until the Republicans are in the majority and want to get someone out of office like Ilhan Idiot Omar or AOC when they become president. They will have an impeachment a week.
 
Grandpappy said:
Multiple lawsuits on this attempt by the Trump administration to lessen the federal deficit. Dont know about you, but I work every day and nobodys paying my grocery bill.

Cities, states sue over planned Trump cuts to food stamps | TheHill
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As of 2018, close to 70% of those who use SNAP are either disabled, children or the elderly.

The second largest grouping are those who work jobs that provide low wages and no benefits, or are jobs that are not long term for whatever reasons. They use SNAP to help supplement what their earnings cannot.

The minority group that takes SNAP is actually unemployed.

Still want to tell a child, or a senior, or someone who is disabled (and is likely to be a veteran) to get a job? Or that they are lazy and a bunch of takers? Are you really going to complain that you don't get help with your groceries because you aren't disabled, a child or a senior and have an employer willing to pay you a living wage? Sounds like a millenial whining to me...

Most Working-Age SNAP Participants Work, But Often in Unstable Jobs | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
 
VanceMack said:
The difference is the rich are spending THEIR money. This topic is about ending a cycle of handout programs for physically capable men and women aged 18-49 without dependent children.
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This only applies to able bodied couch potatoes who sit around all day drinking cheap beer and shoving Doritos down their face.
And expecting me to pay for it.
 
Moderate Right said:
I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Now to just use the word as a generalization is probably as you say. But there actually are a lot of sack of crap freeloaders out there and it is THEY who are disgusting. I've known many in my many days who blatantly abuse the system so they don't have to work. I knew one family in particular who got all kinds of government benefits and were able to work but chose not to and they went around from apartment to apartment, never once paying rent and staying until the police finally legally threw them out, only to move on to do the same thing somewhere else and live rent free for like a half year before they did it again and again.
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There are people who are happy to live on the assistance of the middle class working taxpayer. These freeloaders don't see themselves as ripping off hardworking people who might be having a hard time themselves. It probably never occurs to them. They just think benefits come from the government, and the government has plenty of money, so why not take it. They don't see, that in their small way, they are making life harder for others. And when you add up all the freeloaders, it probably makes a big difference.
 
Grandpappy said:
Multiple lawsuits on this attempt by the Trump administration to lessen the federal deficit. Dont know about you, but I work every day and nobodys paying my grocery bill.

Cities, states sue over planned Trump cuts to food stamps | TheHill
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why is always the most disadvantaged who are targeted?

why don' we just eliminate such agencies as EPA

NEA

IRS?

that would save a huge bundle of $$

and a lot of people on food stamps are disabled. Maybe they can work some kinds of jobs but they can't have just any kind of job... some are too disabled to do much of anything. And of course, here is no law that says an employer has to hire anyone...

only God knows who is truly needy and who isn't. In the meantime, we have to rely on humans to assess who is and who isn't... I don't think calling people names is at all helpful
 
Paradoxical said:
What leftists fail to understand is that even Republicans who are poor have more pride than to accept food stamps for longer than a few days and even then hang their heads in shame.

The difference between them and leftists is that the leftists would brag about being on them for years and scream bloody murder (as we see happening) if the bad orange man takes them away.
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To each according to their needs.
 
Moderate Right said:
I worked in the retail industry for a few years and it is amazing what all kind of crap can be bought. I do realize that these people are poor so they have to buy the most inexpensive grocery itmes and that often includes junky stuff but there's got to be some limitations.
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Potatoes, onions, carrots, cabbage, beans, bananas, for example, all are cheap. I doubt junk food is any cheaper, and it has NO nutritional value.
 
VanceMack said:
None of the leftists bull**** talking points are secret. And if you ever want to hear them, all you have to do is pull a string and the leftists will play the reel for you.
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Oh noes, LEFTISTS!
 
HonestJoe said:
And if you lost your job, your home and your savings tomorrow, you shouldn't receive any support at all?

The article says that able-bodied claimants can only receive food stamps for three-months, which sounds like a reasonable period to support someone while they're seeking work or training. That sounds like the literal safety net rather than freeloading.
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For dacades and generations on end?
 
Grandpappy said:
This only applies to able bodied couch potatoes who sit around all day drinking cheap beer and shoving Doritos down their face.
And expecting me to pay for it.
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Of course to the leftist, anything they can do to keep the crippled and dependent pets crippled and dependent, thats a good thing. Its one thing to provide services to people in need. But to create an entire class of crippled and dependent people? And keep them there stuck for generations? Thats criminal.
 
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