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Where is the Tea Party??

Harshaw said:
For the same reason the anti-war movement was silent during the Obama admin: they don't care when their own are in charge.
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Fair enough, but you did just accuse RWers of being hypocrites.
 
Casper said:
Many sold their soul to the devil and sadly many of those are too ignorant to realize it.
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It is like trying to find Cindy Shehan et al.
 
VanceMack said:
I never identified with the TEA party but I am a fiscal conservative. I have said numerous times here that Trumps failure to control deficit spending is I believe his greatest policy failure. When the GOP had control of the budget for the first two years of his presidency I pointed out here their ineptitude and have often said, both parties are no different when it comes to debt and deficit spending. Its why I left the GOP in 2003.

That being said...what would you like the TEA party to do today...protest congress, specifically the House, that controls the budget?

When it comes to the president, here are the facts. Personality aside, Donald Trump...not Hilary Clinton...appointed 2 Supreme Court justices. If you are a conservative you could stop right there and the Trump presidency would be worth the vote. He may yet have the opportunity to appoint at least 1 more during this term and if reelected will appoint at LEAST 1 more almost assuredly. When it comes to federal judges, he has appointed Constitutionally conservative judges, so much so that it is believed the 9th Circuit Court...once the most radical liberal court in the country, is actually conservative leaning. Trump has tackled trade imbalances...something no other president has done and neither party nor body of congress. He has attempted peace and still working on it with North Korea...again...something no one else has even tried. He has continued to press border security. Far from an anti LEGAL administration, the current administration has focused on the illegal immigration and the previous administrations tendency to exploit the nations refugee laws in order to subvert legal immigration processes. Before he even took office Trump began meeting with businesses to promote bringing US jobs back to the country and to promote economic growth. Regardless of who you may give credit for it, the economy is booming...the markets continue to soar, unemployment rates are at all time lows, minority unemployment rates are at record lows, new business startups and small business are thriving. Trump has managed to accomplish policies that have a direct positive impact on the minority communities.

And this while dealing with a worthless do nothing GOP and a rat party committed to their hatred and resistance openly committed to fighting him solely in the name of spite. As we face a presidential election in November you have Trump and a cast of commie rat socialists that have openly committed to a socialist election agenda where they would do nothing but damage the economic success of the country, intentionally dragging it to the extreme left and true fiscal disaster.
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It's amazing how the economy turns from **** to fantastic the minute a Republican gets elected.

And you think the TEA party should ignore all that and start protesting Trump?
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No, of course not, because the TEA party never cared about deficits.
 
Mashmont said:
Obummer's IRS denied Tea Party organizations permits prior to the 2012 election. This has been proven. That's how the dirty bastard STOLE the election.
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"Obummer's" :roll: LOLOLOLOLOLOL!! if you're 12..

501(c)(3) orgs aren't supposed to be involved in elections. If he "stole" the election by denying tax exempt status to orgs not supposed to be involved in them, then denying them charity status was the proper thing to do!
 
CaughtInThe said:
Our deficit is soaring. Why did they fall silent after Obama??


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It's stuff like this that makes me disgusted with party animals. The Tea Party is irrelevant, they became social conservatives or religious conservatives or whatever. It is my opinion when the Tea party joined the Republican Party, they ceased to exist as a separate entity.

As for the Debt, as for party animals, the Democrats ranted, screamed and hollered about it during Reagan and Bush I. The Republicans never worried about it then. Change president's to Bill Clinton, now it was the Democrats saying the debt and deficits didn't matter, the Republicans changed their stripes to the Democrats mantra during Reagan and Bush I. Along comes Bush II, both parties change, switch values once more. To the GOP deficits and debt doesn't matter, to Democrats it became their calling card. How dare the Republicans run up the debt, one certain senator from Illinois at the time called it unpatriotic.

Then comes Obama, each party switches sides once again. Now it's the Democrats who are spouting the mantra that deficits and debt doesn't matter, the Republicans are bashing Obama all over Hades for adding 10 trillion to the debt. Now Trump, each replaces the other once again, they switch values on this issues. All of this switching proves to me neither party has any core values. They just jump on and take whatever side of any issue or policy that will give them a political advantage. Neither stands for anything outside of either retaining power or regaining power.

Their stances on the debt and deficits prove this. If either party had any core values, they would be consistent on this and other issues regardless of who is president. Either be working hard to eliminate the debt, at least bring it under control or spending like a fish with no regards to the debt and deficits whatsoever. Either one would be against raising the debt during during Reagan, Bush I, Bill Clinton, Bush II, Obama and Trump or be saying the debt and deficits don't matter during all those presidents I just mention. Not against when the other party holds the presidency, but for raising the debt when your party holds the presidency.

Bottom line, neither party has a leg to stand on when it comes to complaining about the debt and deficits. No core values here. Just political expediency.
 
jonny5 said:
Why does someone post this same thread every week? And then the same "their hypocrits" responses. Arent you all tired of posting the same thing all the time?

and on and on
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I couldn't find a more polite version of the likely reason:

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Lutherf said:
No, it wasn't.
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That's why in two years, after complaining about it for over 6 years, the GOP came up with a WORSE plan than Obamacare and no longer are pushing repeal and replace. They just want to repeal because they can't come up with anything BETTER. Their answer to Obamacare now IS "Jesus is my insurance". Republicans are INCAPABLE or coming up with something better. They are INCOMPETENT.
 
The "Jesus is my insurance" thing again...there must be a website somewhere pushing that meme.
 
it's just me said:
Did you know what the TEA party was about? Taxed Enough Already? If you are worried about the deficit quit demanding free stuff, but if I know the Trump haters on this forum you'll be voting for Bernie to get more free stuff and you'll just worry about the deficit when the next Republican is in office.
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We all know what the Tea Party was.

That’s why we’re enjoying watching the same people who showed up at “Taxed Enough Already” rallies with signs like “debt is death”, sitting silently, and looking the other way, as yet another one of right wing talk radio’s heroes runs up record breaking levels of debt.

Taxed enough already didn’t mean a a thing to most of the people at those rallies (I know, I was there).

But the fact that a black man was in the White House was a constant theme, even of often expressed in code words.
 
TomFitz said:
We all know what the Tea Party was.

That’s why we’re enjoying watching the same people who showed up at “Taxed Enough Already” rallies with signs like “debt is death”, sitting silently, and looking the other way, as yet another one of right wing talk radio’s heroes runs up record breaking levels of debt.

Taxed enough already didn’t mean a a thing to most of the people at those rallies (I know, I was there).

But the fact that a black man was in the White House was a constant theme, even of often expressed in code words.
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Yeah, yeah, right, the left only cares about debt when there's a Republican in the White House. I was there, too, and no, the TEA party movement was actually started by an economist, so don't bother playing the race card.
 
it's just me said:
Did you know what the TEA party was about? Taxed Enough Already? If you are worried about the deficit quit demanding free stuff, but if I know the Trump haters on this forum you'll be voting for Bernie to get more free stuff and you'll just worry about the deficit when the next Republican is in office.
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For one thing, the Tea Party is now the T-Party which used to be the GOP.

But in truth the Tea Party was all about the 2008 meltdown and the residue from it. It was not about deficits. Wasn't about anything other than a backlash from the 2008 meltdown and an unwillingness to accept that we could not allow the financial system to crumble to dust. Yes it meant it looked like Wall St fat cats were being spared and if it were me, I would have bailed out the financial sector and found a way to prosecute those that manipulated the system to the point of crashing it or I would have forced the financial sector to fire their asses without benefit of their full boat golden parachutes. This economy floats on an ocean of credit. If they let the financial system crumble the residue from that failure would have been devastating.

In fact the very name "Tea Party" came from a comment from the Chicago Merc by a RW financial commentator that "we are going to start a Chicago Tea Party" over our tax dollars being used to bail out Wall St fat cats. That was sort of a simplistic and naive view as well. But it scratched a very particular itch at that time.

Anyway, what Bush and Obama did that was smart in that regard is that they got out of Geithner, Bernacki and Paulson's way and let them do what they had to do. The biggest mistake was the second round of stimulus packages. The financial sector was not responding as they had anticipated and they lost their nerve. Brought the financial sector back and shoved more money down their throats. But I really can't blame them for that. They knew how much strain had been put on the system and they knew what the fed balance sheet was going to look like when they were done no matter what they did at that point and they could not figure out why the entire financial system was still paralyzed at that point. By then the three of them had been on tender hooks making moves and watching the global financial markets absorb them night after night. Geithner was sleeping in his office. I don't think Bernanki slept at all and Paulson was throwing up in his office trash can!

But the Tea Party had enough and they wanted Wall St drawn and quartered though that was frankly a point of view that was naive at best. People got hurt. But for those with traditional mortgages they should not have been hurt unless they had to sell their homes at that point for some other reason.

The job loses IMO were not called for and not the usual response to financial contraction by US Business and Industry. Just as the old saw is that you buy real estate in a down market, you don't just cut the legs out from under business organizations just because you don't think the business environment is not going to be favorable for a period of time. That is where people that should have been fine really got hurt. In the main we cut away EVERYBODY other than senior corporate management. Nobody else was spared. Suddenly kids barely out of school and in their first real jobs were running whole departments with the help of outside consultants which of course did not cost nearly as much as full time, qualified and experienced business managers.

Funniest or maybe most poignant moment was Paulson literally on bent knee in front of Nancy Pelosi begging her for the votes to pass the legislation needed only to have Pelosi tell him cameras running to "get up off your knees Hank. Your problem is over there with YOUR PEOPLE. I've got my votes lined up".
 
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it's just me said:
Then what is it you are asking for?
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why the tea part screamed about the debt and have fallen silent (during the Trump administration) as our deficit soars.

shouldn't you be screaming? you're small government, right?
 
Mycroft said:
They were minimized into near extinction by the corrupt Obama administration...
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^ lack of personal responsibility.

anyone surprised?
 
CaughtInThe said:
why the tea part screamed about the debt and have fallen silent (during the Trump administration) as our deficit soars.

shouldn't you be screaming? you're small government, right?
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Because they didn't scream about debt, they screamed about taxes. Do you people ever tell the truth about anythin?
 
jnug said:
For one thing, the Tea Party is now the T-Party which used to be the GOP.

But in truth the Tea Party was all about the 2008 meltdown and the residue from it. It was not about deficits. Wasn't about anything other than a backlash from the 2008 meltdown and an unwillingness to accept that we could not allow the financial system to crumble to dust. Yes it meant it looked like Wall St fat cats were being spared and if it were me, I would have bailed out the financial sector and found a way to prosecute those that manipulated the system to the point of crashing it or I would have forced the financial sector to fire their asses without benefit of their full boat golden parachutes. This economy floats on an ocean of credit. If they let the financial system crumble the residue from that failure would have been devastating.

In fact the very name "Tea Party" came from a comment from the Chicago Merc by a RW financial commentator that "we are going to start a Chicago Tea Party" over our tax dollars being used to bail out Wall St fat cats. That was sort of a simplistic and naive view as well. But it scratched a very particular itch at that time.

Anyway, what Bush and Obama did that was smart in that regard is that they got out of Geithner, Bernacki and Paulson's way and let them do what they had to do. The biggest mistake was the second round of stimulus packages. The financial sector was not responding as they had anticipated and they lost their nerve. Brought the financial sector back and shoved more money down their throats. But I really can't blame them for that. They knew how much strain had been put on the system and they knew what the fed balance sheet was going to look like when they were done no matter what they did at that point and they could not figure out why the entire financial system was still paralyzed at that point. By then the three of them had been on tender hooks making moves and watching the global financial markets absorb them night after night. Geithner was sleeping in his office. I don't think Bernanki slept at all and Paulson was throwing up in his office trash can!

But the Tea Party had enough and they wanted Wall St drawn and quartered though that was frankly a point of view that was naive at best. People got hurt. But for those with traditional mortgages they should not have been hurt unless they had to sell their homes at that point for some other reason.

The job loses IMO were not called for and not the usual response to financial contraction by US Business and Industry. Just as the old saw is that you buy real estate in a down market, you don't just cut the legs out from under business organizations just because you don't think the business environment is not going to be favorable for a period of time. That is where people that should have been fine really got hurt. In the main we cut away EVERYBODY other than senior corporate management. Nobody else was spared. Suddenly kids barely out of school and in their first real jobs were running whole departments with the help of outside consultants which of course did not cost nearly as much as full time, qualified and experienced business managers.

Funniest or maybe most poignant moment was Paulson literally on bent knee in front of Nancy Pelosi begging her for the votes to pass the legislation needed only to have Pelosi tell him cameras running to "get up off your knees Hank. Your problem is over there with YOUR PEOPLE. I've got my votes lined up".
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The TEA Party I know of was launched by CNBC's Rick Santelli, who called for it on February 19, 2009, hardly a RW financial advisor.
 
CaughtInThe said:
^ lack of personal responsibility.

anyone surprised?
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I have no idea what "lack of personal responsibility" means in relation to what I posted.

Perhaps you can expand upon your utterance?
 
it's just me said:
Yeah, yeah, right, the left only cares about debt when there's a Republican in the White House. I was there, too, and no, the TEA party movement was actually started by an economist, so don't bother playing the race card.
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The Tea Party was created and financed by K Street to get the Limbaughloonies to the polls in the 2010 mid term election.

It served no other political purpose.

In the beginning, there was plenty of money. “Grass roots” groups magically popped up with instant memberships and instant websites. Anonymous helper showed up from K Street with pre printed literature, chartered busses, and pop up websites.

The mob, duly instructed by talk radio and Fox showed up at these rallies for about five or six months.

After the election, the money dried up.

And all the grass roots suckers who fell for the scam wondered (not too much), where all the money, the preprinted literature, the charter busses and the guys that used to train tea partiers how to disrupt town hall meetings disappeared to.

The Tea Party movement was walking dead, at that point, although the Limbaugh crowd hadn’t yet figured out that they had been conned into supporting Wall Street’s agenda again.

But there was a lot of race baiting going on. It was a principal salient aspect of every tea party event I went to.
 
JasperL said:
It's amazing how the economy turns from **** to fantastic the minute a Republican gets elected.



No, of course not, because the TEA party never cared about deficits.
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Its not at all surprising that people like you see what you want to see.
"Regardless of who you may give credit for it, the economy is booming."

Despite all the rat party naysayers predicting doom and gloom...the economy continues to thrive. I know how much that pisses you off.

Your ignorance about the TEA party is not shocking. Of COURSE you think the TEA party was only about democrats and Obama. Which only proves how little you know about the origins of the TEA party. But then...you DO see what you want to see.
 
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