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Where is Trumpcare?

Harshaw said:
Sounds like reasons to abolish Obamacare. Which they've said they want to do and haven't done, of course, but it certainly doesn't oblige them to try to make something they never wanted work better.

Obamacare is 100% the Democrats' baby. They were in control; they passed exactly what they wanted without a single Republican vote. This nonsense about it being a "Republican solution" is exactly that -- the Democrats could have passed whatever they wanted. Thus, what they passed was what they wanted.
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I agree, it’s the Democrats baby. They wasted their super majority on a garbage Republican plan and were beaten by Republicans for implementing it. There’s a word for that: SUCKER.
 
Dans La Lune said:
I agree, it’s the Democrats baby. They wasted their super majority on a garbage Republican plan and were beaten by Republicans for implementing it. There’s a word for that: SUCKER.
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Which isn't the Republicans' problem. If it's "garbage," it's exclusively the Democrats' fault.
 
Harshaw said:
Not one of them wanted Obamacare. Not one.



The Democrats passed it without a single Republican vote. It's their mess.
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You wonder why people hate politics? It is the law of the land therefore you can’t pretend the GOP has nothing to do with it now.
 
US&THEM said:
It isn’t perfect but remind everyone what the GOP has done to improve it again.
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The left created this mess all by themselves. And now, in typical left fashion, the left is demanding that someone else fix it.
 
Luther said:
Obamacare is too busy "Imploding" at the moment to have Trump care(LOL)
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Sarcasm doesn't work when it's true.

US&THEM said:
You wonder why people hate politics? It is the law of the land therefore you can’t pretend the GOP has nothing to do with it now.
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They repealed the mandate and made alternative plans available, which is a lot. The rest has been pushed aside by impeachment. At best it gets revisited after the election. Thanks Nancy.
 
US&THEM said:
You wonder why people hate politics? It is the law of the land therefore you can’t pretend the GOP has nothing to do with it now.
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I don't have to pretend that the Republicans aren't obligated to fix something not a single one of them wanted. They just aren't.

It's true that they should have gotten their **** together to repeal it, but they're in no way obligated to fix it.

You simply want the Republicans to take responsibility for a mess created exclusively -- exclusively -- by the Democrats. Who, by the way, have been so fixated on "getting" Trump since they regained control that they haven't tried to do anything about it, either.
 
Dans La Lune said:
The case for Medicare For All has never been stronger.
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It has never been very strong, so that's not saying much. Not that such a declaration in any way follows from the Democrats unilaterally passing what you call a "garbage plan."
 
US&THEM said:
It isn’t perfect but remind everyone what the GOP has done to improve it again.
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well to be fair it isnt all the GOP but in a general sense they have dont NOTHING to fix it. They have done plenty to harm it and even worse the promises of something better and the best ever do not excist.

thats the pure stupidity and retardation that is our current congress and president right now and we all suffer right left and center

its basically like one set of people building a car, the car works just fine, it isnt perfect, it has flaws and it never will be perfect., No car ever will be, but it works and is an improvement over all of the old car. This car comes with an endless: maintenance schedule, cleaning schedule, financing, inspection requirements, plans to keep thieves/crooked mechanics away from it and requirements to people behind the wheel in the car and supervise all of the previously mentioned

some other group of people didnt like it so slowly but surely they got rid of some of the maintenance schedule . . . cut its funding . . .stop changing the oil and tires . . . dont inspected at all any more . . . took the alarm off of it so now the thieves are back to their old ways and have figured out weaknesses to get at it etc etc and THEN they say...... LOOK WHAT A PIECE OF **** THAT CAR IT and want people to take them seriously LMAO

no matter the car it will always need maintenance, inspection, cleaning etc etc . . so yo do it . . you dont ignore it and shoot out its tires before you even have another car and then cry about it lol thats 100% the wrong way to do it .. . dont like the car do things to it so you like it and then everybody wins

its pure retardation whats going on and nobody honest, educated and objective falls for it and yet again we the people suffer . .

if i could id make all of congress ride in the same car as the rest of us and we'd see how fast that **** got worked on! :)
 
Harshaw said:
I don't have to pretend that the Republicans aren't obligated to fix something not a single one of them wanted. They just aren't.

It's true that they should have gotten their **** together to repeal it, but they're in no way obligated to fix it.

You simply want the Republicans to take responsibility for a mess created exclusively -- exclusively -- by the Democrats. Who, by the way, have been so fixated on "getting" Trump since they regained control that they haven't tried to do anything about it, either.
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What a crap answer. Healthcare in our country is an on-going joke.
 
US&THEM said:
What a crap answer. Healthcare in our country is an on-going joke.
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:shrug: Then the Democrats shouldn't have passed that joke, without a single Republican vote.
 
Mashmont said:
We don't need Trumpcare on Anybodycare. Let the free markets handle it and get the hell out of their way. Problem solved.
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the free market came up with pre-existing conditions that denied healthcare (or made it outrageously expensive) for the most sick people. you okay with that? do you have any family or friends with pre-existing conditions?
 
Harshaw said:
:shrug: Then the Democrats shouldn't have passed that joke, without a single Republican vote.
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Make it better, just look at the red states who have expanded medicaid etc. The citizens of our country do not deserve to be bankrupted when they get sick.
 
Harshaw said:
I don't have to pretend that the Republicans aren't obligated to fix something not a single one of them wanted. They just aren't.

It's true that they should have gotten their **** together to repeal it, but they're in no way obligated to fix it.

You simply want the Republicans to take responsibility for a mess created exclusively -- exclusively -- by the Democrats. Who, by the way, have been so fixated on "getting" Trump since they regained control that they haven't tried to do anything about it, either.
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Democrats created people's need for healthcare?

And they haven't 'done anything' about it with a Republican Congress/president? You want them to pass a bill with no chance of getting by Republicans? Bernie says ok. He wrote the damned bill for Medicare for all.
 
US&THEM said:
Make it better, just look at the red states who have expanded medicaid etc. The citizens of our country do not deserve to be bankrupted when they get sick.
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Which was ALL the states until Republicans got corrupt Republican Supreme Court judges to let states refuse it, and most Republican states did.
 
US&THEM said:
None of the GOP care about an existing law that helps their citizens receive medical care? The GOP complain about it and have done nothing but attack it in attempt to make it worse and cover less people.
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Trump's current actions will cause people that voted for him to have huge problems with medical expenses.

It's almost (almost) funny.
 
Harshaw said:
:shrug: Then the Democrats shouldn't have passed that joke, without a single Republican vote.
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Yes, they should. Pelosi was exactly right about the Republican lies: the American people understood how much good the ACA did once it was in place, and it's gone from a political liability to the Democrats' strongest political issue, leading to the historic victory in 2018. And improving it instead of repealing it is a big reason they will take the presidency in 2020.
 
Craig234 said:
Democrats created people's need for healthcare?
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Didn't say that, and having read this nonsense, I already know there's no point in proceeding a single letter further into your post.
 
US&THEM said:
Make it better, just look at the red states who have expanded medicaid etc. The citizens of our country do not deserve to be bankrupted when they get sick.
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No. Get rid of the mess of Obamacare entirely.
 
In response to the topic question, I have it on deep background that the full brain-trust potential of Trump University is working on it even as I type this.
 
Harshaw said:
Didn't say that, and having read this nonsense, I already know there's no point in proceeding a single letter further into your post.
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More than was worth reading from you.

"I don't have to pretend that the Republicans aren't obligated to fix something not a single one of them wanted. They just aren't.

It's true that they should have gotten their **** together to repeal it, but they're in no way obligated to fix it.

You simply want the Republicans to take responsibility for a mess created exclusively -- exclusively -- by the Democrats."

Sure sounds like an argument that Republicans should simply repeal the ACA and replace it with nothing, leaving tens of millions without coverage, because they have no obligation to care about people having healthcare. The 'mess' presumably from that argument is people needing healthcare, and you say Democrats created it so Republicans should do nothing.
 
Harshaw said:
No. Get rid of the mess of Obamacare entirely.
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and that, right there, is what the man you voted for promised to do. better insurance. less cost.

where is it?
 
Lovebug said:
Why not fix the parts that don't work?
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There aren't any. The only thing that doesn't work is that it just needs to go further, and get replaced by single payer.
 
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