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Another dirty Democrat scheme: Take Trump down using the Yovanovich Bewitch ploy

vesper said:
The Dems slow walked all his nominees. If he had fired all of them, the confirmations to replace them still wouldn't be complete. The Dems have been playing this little game in the senate to hold up confirmations. They simply keep asking the nominee to complete countless number of questionnaires.
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Politics uber alles Dems. Hardly a surprise. Culminating in the 100% politically motivated impeachment. Again, hardly a surprise.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Think about the dough one of those pens could bring on eBay. Cha-Ching!
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Just think how much cheaper they would have been if Nancy had only waited for another week for Trump's deal with China to take full effect.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
This is why I try not to waste my time debating so much anymore. This is not a debatable post. This is just irrational nonsense.

Trump fired Yovanovich because she was fighting corruption. Trump's criminals who are now testifying against him hated her because she was a corruption fighter.

I just don't understand how people like you could be so out of touch with reality.

Once upon a time, I was a Reagan supporter. But I never for a minute believed his claims that he "couldn't remember." I knew he was guilty but I still supported him. I would respect you a lot more if you just admitted that Trump is guilty but you still support him instead of these embarrassing arguments you're making.
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She was a faithful mob democrat. Biden had the Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating Hunter Biden and she refused to allow the Ukrainian prosecutor to talk with the FBI about Ukrainian corruption in favor of Hillary in 2016.
 
Moot said:
She worked under every president going back to Reagan. She was the one fighting corruption...not Trump.

It was the corrupt Ukraine Prosecutor, Lutsenko that wanted her fired because she supported the NABU and he offered Giuliani dirt on Biden in exchange for getting her fired. The former prosecutor, Shokin also wanted her fired because the US embassy refused to give him a visa so he could travel to the US to meet with Giuliani. The reason he was refused was because he was under investigation in Ukraine. So Giuliani went to the State Department to get Shokin's visa approved and they refused too. So then he went to Trump...and finally got her removed. Meanwhile, Hyde and Nunes were having her followed (which was illegal) and so extra security had to be provided for her.
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She was defending democrat corruption all while claiming she was fighting corruption. She lied for the democrat party. Trump had good reasons for firing her.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Let's not forget, they were joking about assassinating her.

I can't imagine any politician surviving this. Most would be forced to resign. But Trump is a cult leader not just a politician.
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Trump was certainly not talking about assassinating her. That would be stupid and even the hint of such an accusation would be ridiculous. He fired her. Why would he want to hurt her as well? It is the wicked leftists you need to watch out for because you might find them shooting at republicans in the park on any clear day leading up to an election.

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HumblePi said:
Link PLEASE

She was not an "Obama holdover", she has served under six presidents and appointed by a Republican president!! God, you are reaching so far that you're looking foolish now. Stop and save some dignity for yourself.
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She became a high level State Department diplomat under Obama. She was active in the diplomatic service the entire 8 years under Obama. She fought to stop Ukraine from investigating rumors of corruption on Hillary's behalf in 2016. She was an Obama holdover if there ever was one.
 
HumblePi said:
No she didn't. She's always been non-partisan her entire career, so that's another lie.

Trump is nothing more than a lowlife gangster.
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I don't know who is telling you she was a staunch Trump supporter who served him honorably but they are lying to you. You should change channels.
 
Why is it that a ton of midwesterners and southern Christians always start threads defending, running conver for or diverting attention away from Trump's bad deeds and constant lies.

Those mid westerners and southerners are supposed to be opposite of what Trump is. Unless they are dirty adulterers who conduct business like the mafia as well. I can't believe all those people condone Trump and his mafia like tactics.

I certainly don't think their children do either.
 
Moot said:
I hope your right...it would be great Nunes resigned. But that would be too easy.
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If you get rid of all the good guys you will have nothing but dirty crooks seeking to fleece Americans and the US Treasury the way Chavez robbed Venezuela.
 
vesper said:
The Dems slow walked all his nominees. If he had fired all of them, the confirmations to replace them still wouldn't be complete. The Dems have been playing this little game in the senate to hold up confirmations. They simply keep asking the nominee to complete countless number of questionnaires.
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Your projection is referring to what Moskow Mitch did for 8 years during Obama.
 
Moot said:
You're surprised that so many Americans know that Trump is chronic liar? The source is Trump himself...and you're the one sucks up his lies without question. No surprise there, either.
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There are likely millions of rubes who have drunk deeply from the cup of lying democrat propaganda. Don't be fooled by those lying crooked dummasses. Trump is helping America. Those dummasses want Trump out of the way so they can serve themselves as they devour the fattest of American riches and power for their own narcissistic pleasures.
 
Somerville said:
Maybe the Trump minions are just too incompetent to carry out a successful hit.
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Should we try finding an expert like James Hodgkinson? Are there secret democrat training camps for training assassins? Republicans don't do that sort of thing. What about Black Panther ISIS jihadists? Does anyone here know how we can contact one of their cells in America?
 
marke said:
Who is Yovanovich? The Obama and Hillary darling state department official who was fired for improper behavior in May 2019. That did not sit well with democrat seditionists who claimed the ambassador as one of their own. Trump was again demonstrating his right to dismiss government employees who hold their position at his pleasure and that just fired up democrats even more to unseat Trump by hook or crook.

Why did Trump fire Yovanovich? Because she proved untrustworthy. Trump officials were investigating Ukrainian corruption in the 2016 election and Yovanovich was obstructing that investigation. One evidence of her obstruction was revealed in Congressional impeachment hearing of 2019 in which she admitted she blocked Ukrainian prosecutor from meeting with US Justice Department officials at the US embassy. It was likely that obstruction of an investigation which was the biggest factor in Trump's dismissal of Yovanovich.

https://www.intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20191104_yovanovitch_transcript_excerpts_final.pdf


Excerpts from Joint Deposition, Marie "Masha" Yovanovitch, October 11, 2019
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Two problems:

1) While the whole thing is yet ANOTHER giant Nothing Burger, the Democult is obsessed with this - and many other - lunatic shard/s of their "Trump is Putin/Hitler!!!" conspiracy theory, and cannot be reached by reason.

2) See 1.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Two problems:

1) While the whole thing is yet ANOTHER giant Nothing Burger, the Democult is obsessed with this - and many other - lunatic shard/s of their "Trump is Putin/Hitler!!!" conspiracy theory, and cannot be reached by reason.

2) See 1.
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Gee, let's see here. How'd we get here?

Democrats politicized federal intel and LEO agencies, and set them on spying on an opposition presidential campaign based on fraudulent FISA 'evidence'. This 'evidence' procured from a Hillary / DNC paid for private company, which in turn engages a Democrat friendly former MI-6 agent, who summarizes from a Russian source who has stated it was all fictitious to begin with.

Democrats shamelessly smeared in the worst possible way a SCOTUS appointee they didn't like.

Democrats and their media butt lickers hawked an alleged, and never proven, Trump / Russian collusion, and then used this as justification for the Mueller 'investigation'. The 'Russian collusion' narrative being invented by Fusion GPS Simpson back in '07 to be used against McCain. Just got dusted off and used again in this case.

Said investigation is lead by, and staffed by, strongly Democrat politically people with a mere alleged 'Republican' figure head, who, based on his own congressional testimony, didn't really know what was going on, and his #2, Weissman, the rabid Democrat / leftist, was the one pulling the strings.

Said politically driven and politically staffed investigation suffers from multiple likely prosecutorial misconduct, with the FBI senior staff altering evidence, for example, making an innocent person look guilty, and this appearance of guilty was used to extend the fraudulent FISA warrant 3 times, all under signed and sworn to as the truth be Comey.

And even so, this 'investigation' came up with nothing sufficient to criminally charge the president.

The House Democrats coordinate with, a now known to be Democrat supporter, in the intel agency, who's whistle blowing claim of concern came from second or third hand sources - or so he claims, yet, rather than bringing this to light, Democrats 'hide' and protect this person casting rather dubious claims.

House Democrats launch an impeachment action in the House on the basis of nary an contrary witness, and structure the 'rules' of this impeachment process in such a fashion that no other testimony other than what agrees with their politically driven narrative is heard, such is their concern for fairness and even-handedness, which is to say, not at all. This fan fair and seriousness of impeachment being made a politically driven mockery of what was intended, in the hopes of improving Democrat presidential candidates chances of beating Trump (so lousy are their candidates - call each other liars on the presidential debate stage - degrading yet another institution of the Republic).

Now, the House Democrats try to dictate to the Senate, (a co-equal branch of government and not a subservient branch of government, by the way), who's majority they do not hold (mind you they hold the majority in the House and in the Deep State), Democrats try to dictate to the Senate to conduct further investigation with new witnesses as part of the Senate impeachment trial, which is clearly the responsibility of the House as outlined in the Constitution, witnesses which they should have subpoenaed, and had those subpoenas been declined, taken to court, as precedence on this has been set, but discard precedence if it is to their own political advantage, yet another institution of the Republic which Democrats have degraded.

And Democrats wonder why clear headed and thinking people object to Democrats? What delusions of grandeur to they believe they live in?

Not just no. Oh hell no.

(apologies if I've missed any significant events, but this is what I recall off the top of my head. Do feel free to fill in where necessary for the sake of completeness)
 
marke said:
She was defending democrat corruption all while claiming she was fighting corruption. She lied for the democrat party. Trump had good reasons for firing her.
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The Ambassador was defending the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine and Lutsenko didn't like that because they were investigating his former boss, Poroshenko. She didn't lie to or for anyone. Trump removed her from her post in exchange for dirt on Biden and 2016 election interference....ho ho ho...quid pro quo.


marke said:
If you get rid of all the good guys you will have nothing but dirty crooks seeking to fleece Americans and the US Treasury the way Chavez robbed Venezuela.
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Don't be daft...the US could never end up like Venezuela because we have a very diversified economy and they don't.


marke said:
There are likely millions of rubes who have drunk deeply from the cup of lying democrat propaganda. Don't be fooled by those lying crooked dummasses. Trump is helping America. Those dummasses want Trump out of the way so they can serve themselves as they devour the fattest of American riches and power for their own narcissistic pleasures.
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Looks like you've had more than your fill of Trump's butt juice...you can't even see straight because it's coming out of your eyes. .
 
eohrnberger said:
Gee, let's see here. How'd we get here?

Democrats politicized federal intel and LEO agencies, and set them on spying on an opposition presidential campaign based on fraudulent FISA 'evidence'. This 'evidence' procured from a Hillary / DNC paid for private company, which in turn engages a Democrat friendly former MI-6 agent, who summarizes from a Russian source who has stated it was all fictitious to begin with.

Democrats shamelessly smeared in the worst possible way a SCOTUS appointee they didn't like.

Democrats and their media butt lickers hawked an alleged, and never proven, Trump / Russian collusion, and then used this as justification for the Mueller 'investigation'. The 'Russian collusion' narrative being invented by Fusion GPS Simpson back in '07 to be used against McCain. Just got dusted off and used again in this case.

Said investigation is lead by, and staffed by, strongly Democrat politically people with a mere alleged 'Republican' figure head, who, based on his own congressional testimony, didn't really know what was going on, and his #2, Weissman, the rabid Democrat / leftist, was the one pulling the strings.

Said politically driven and politically staffed investigation suffers from multiple likely prosecutorial misconduct, with the FBI senior staff altering evidence, for example, making an innocent person look guilty, and this appearance of guilty was used to extend the fraudulent FISA warrant 3 times, all under signed and sworn to as the truth be Comey.

And even so, this 'investigation' came up with nothing sufficient to criminally charge the president.

The House Democrats coordinate with, a now known to be Democrat supporter, in the intel agency, who's whistle blowing claim of concern came from second or third hand sources - or so he claims, yet, rather than bringing this to light, Democrats 'hide' and protect this person casting rather dubious claims.

House Democrats launch an impeachment action in the House on the basis of nary an contrary witness, and structure the 'rules' of this impeachment process in such a fashion that no other testimony other than what agrees with their politically driven narrative is heard, such is their concern for fairness and even-handedness, which is to say, not at all. This fan fair and seriousness of impeachment being made a politically driven mockery of what was intended, in the hopes of improving Democrat presidential candidates chances of beating Trump (so lousy are their candidates - call each other liars on the presidential debate stage - degrading yet another institution of the Republic).

Now, the House Democrats try to dictate to the Senate, (a co-equal branch of government and not a subservient branch of government, by the way), who's majority they do not hold (mind you they hold the majority in the House and in the Deep State), Democrats try to dictate to the Senate to conduct further investigation with new witnesses as part of the Senate impeachment trial, which is clearly the responsibility of the House as outlined in the Constitution, witnesses which they should have subpoenaed, and had those subpoenas been declined, taken to court, as precedence on this has been set, but discard precedence if it is to their own political advantage, yet another institution of the Republic which Democrats have degraded.

And Democrats wonder why clear headed and thinking people object to Democrats? What delusions of grandeur to they believe they live in?

Not just no. Oh hell no.

(apologies if I've missed any significant events, but this is what I recall off the top of my head. Do feel free to fill in where necessary for the sake of completeness)
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Short version = Democrats R criminally insane

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HumblePi said:
Everything you said is a lie. Marie Yovanovitch never did anything inappropriate, the charge is vague, nonspecific an unverified. Trump wanted her out because she was a corruption fighter.

Oh, and your link doesn't work.
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You're dealing with a conspiracy theorist who sees nefarious plots everywhere he looks. Reasoning is futile. If he got given the wrong change at Walmart he'd think it was a Communist plot to take over America.
 
trixare4kids said:
I know, huh? :doh
She only badmouthed the president every chance she had but remember, these are the same dirty democrats who looked the other way when Obama, according to the GAO, broke federal law during the Bergdahl swap.
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When did she do this alleged 'badmouthing'? Details and quotes please. The only badmouthing I heard was from the snowflake-in-chief.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Two problems:

1) While the whole thing is yet ANOTHER giant Nothing Burger, the Democult is obsessed with this - and many other - lunatic shard/s of their "Trump is Putin/Hitler!!!" conspiracy theory, and cannot be reached by reason.

2) See 1.
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The Bidens are clearly corrupt. Yovanovitch tried to keep the Ukrainians and the Americans from investigating the Bidens and the democrats led by the lying Schitff charged Trump with crimes in order to keep him from investigating Biden.
 
Moot said:
The Ambassador was defending the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine and Lutsenko didn't like that because they were investigating his former boss, Poroshenko. She didn't lie to or for anyone. Trump removed her from her post in exchange for dirt on Biden and 2016 election interference....ho ho ho...quid pro quo.
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If she had been fighting corruption in Ukraine she would not have testified that she prohibited Lutsenko from talking with the FBI. Ukrainian officials claimed she was obstructing investigations into American corruption in Ukraine and she said she was not. By preventing the Ukrainian prosecutor from talking with the FBI she proves she was lying about fighting corruption and Lutsenko was telling the truth.

Don't be daft...the US could never end up like Venezuela because we have a very diversified economy and they don't.
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The US credit rating was lowered under Obama for the first time in history because the Obama administration did not have a plan for paying back all the money it was borrowing to temporarily buy the US out of fiscal depression.

Looks like you've had more than your fill of Trump's butt juice...you can't even see straight because it's coming out of your eyes. .
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marke said:
She became a high level State Department diplomat under Obama. She was active in the diplomatic service the entire 8 years under Obama. She fought to stop Ukraine from investigating rumors of corruption on Hillary's behalf in 2016. She was an Obama holdover if there ever was one.
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Everything you said about Marie Yovanovitch is propaganda put out by Fox. All it would take is a simple Google search of Marie Yovanovitch and her biography to see that Fox is brainwashing you.
 
marke said:
Yovanovitch proved to be a loyal democrat supporter of the mob push to undermine Trump. She was dirty. She was crooked. Trump was right to fire her just as he was right to fire Comey for the same sort of rebellion.
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No, she was not any of those things-except in your conspiracy theory-addled mind. Of course my opinion might alter if you can provide substantiating evidence of her alleged criminal activity. Your opinion doesn't count as evidence.
 
The evangelical support for Donald Trump on this board is amazing to watch.
 
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