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Corruption and Self Interest is What It Is!

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Corruption and self interest is what it is!

Trump is guilty and he is corrupt to the nth degree. All evidence points to the now irrefutable fact that he tried to coerce the new president of Ukraine for his own personal gain. He abused the power given to him as president in an attempt to gain a strong edge in the next election and not for the benefit of the country but for himself.

He has also obstructed Congress in every way possible to prevent not only this situation with Ukraine from coming out but hide everything else that he has done either illegally or against the best interests of the country since the day he became president. Emoluments clause, releasing his tax returns, his relationship with Putin, his self interests with Saudi Arabia to name a few.

In addition, he has surrounded himself with people of the same ilk starting with Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Scott, Pruitt, Giuliani, Pompeo, Barr, McConnell, Sessions and all the other people that surround him that are simple "yes" men that follow and endorse what he does and are involved in perpetrating the corruption, if not for their economic benefit for their survival in their jobs.

This is now clear as a bell and all the excuses in the world can no longer dent what is so evidently clear.

To finish it off, we have most (close to all) the politicians in Congress that also endorse and support this action simply because they want to keep their jobs, knowing that doing what is right and lawful will have them lose their jobs because of the 63 million people that have been conned by Trump into believing in him simply because he put some money in their pockets, created a few more jobs, and put into effect the Republican goals of conservative approach to governing, which is what they want.

To obtain all of this, Trump supporters have abandoned ethics, morals, principles and humanity and everything that has actually made us great as a nation for over 240 years.

This nation has become a nation beholden to money, power, corruption and of no morality, simply to obtain the goals they want.

Trump, the people around him and his supporters have turned this nation into the exact opposite of what our forefathers fought and gave their lives to achieve.

I don't know about you, but living with an administration like this has made me lose my love and faith for the nation that I have had all my life. This nation no longer represents what I have always believed in. It is now turning into a pile of garbage that has been lowered to the levels of what the worst nations in the world represent and even lower because we all know better.

End of story.

I sincerely pray and hope that "enough" of the Senators that are judging this impeachment grow enough courage to put the nation ahead of their own self interests. If that were to happen, I would see a ray of light coming through.
 
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Yeah well, wish in one hand...

I think it's better just to embrace that we've been corrupt all along, and Trump is just a slightly more obvious verion of the same 'ol.

That way you might get some pleasant surprises from time to time.
 
Corruption and self interest is what it is!

Trump is guilty and he is corrupt to the nth degree. All evidence points to the now irrefutable fact that he tried to coerce the new president of Ukraine for his own personal gain. He abused the power given to him as president in an attempt to gain a strong edge in the next election and not for the benefit of the country but for himself.

He has also obstructed Congress in every way possible to prevent not only this situation with Ukraine from coming out but hide everything else that he has done either illegally or against the best interests of the country since the day he became president. Emoluments clause, releasing his tax returns, his relationship with Putin, his self interests with Saudi Arabia to name a few.

In addition, he has surrounded himself with people of the same ilk starting with Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Scott, Pruitt, Giuliani, Pompeo, Barr, McConnell, Sessions and all the other people that surround him that are simple "yes" men that follow and endorse what he does and are involved in perpetrating the corruption, if not for their economic benefit for their survival in their jobs.

This is now clear as a bell and all the excuses in the world can no longer dent what is so evidently clear.

To finish it off, we have most (close to all) the politicians in Congress that also endorse and support this action simply because they want to keep their jobs, knowing that doing what is right and lawful will have them lose their jobs because of the 63 million people that have been conned by Trump into believing in him simply because he put some money in their pockets, created a few more jobs, and put into effect the Republican goals of conservative approach to governing, which is what they want.

To obtain all of this, Trump supporters have abandoned ethics, morals, principles and humanity and everything that has actually made us great as a nation for over 240 years.

This nation has become a nation beholden to money, power, corruption and of no morality, simply to obtain the goals they want.

Trump, the people around him and his supporters have turned this nation into the exact opposite of what our forefathers fought and gave their lives to achieve.

I don't know about you, but living with an administration like this has made me lose my love and faith for the nation that I have had all my life. This nation no longer represents what I have always believed in. It is now turning into a pile of garbage that has been lowered to the levels of what the worst nations in the world represent and even lower because we all know better.

End of story.

I sincerely pray and hope that "enough" of the Senators that are judging this impeachment grow enough courage to put the nation ahead of their own self interests. If that were to happen, I would see a ray of light coming through.

I don't hold out any hope at all that republicans will do the duty they've sworn to do. Unless the American people wake up and take to the streets, the republicans are deaf, blind and dumb regarding impeaching Trump.
 
The crooks have been losing their class for decades.

Trump Inc is just a smash and grab outfit.......
 
Corruption and self interest is what it is!

All evidence points to the now irrefutable fact that he tried to coerce the new president of Ukraine for his own personal gain.

End of story.

Nope. Not "End of story."

There is zero factual evidence that Trump has done anything "for his own personal gain".

btw, the rest of your screed has the same lack of factual evidence...that's why I cut the nonsense from my quote of your post.
 
Nope. Not "End of story."

There is zero factual evidence that Trump has done anything "for his own personal gain".

btw, the rest of your screed has the same lack of factual evidence...that's why I cut the nonsense from my quote of your post.

Bottom line Mycroft, is that you are one of those that I talk about (the supporters and enablers).

Enough said. End of story, dismissed!
 
Trump is only guilty of ignoring the long standing political understanding: “You leave our graft alone, and we will leave your graft alone. My kids have to eat, too.”
 
Sounds partisan.

You better believe it. I am partisan for the United States (my nation) and totally against the people who are corrupt and self-interested. Are you not partisan in the same way?
 
Nope. Not "End of story."

There is zero factual evidence that Trump has done anything "for his own personal gain".

btw, the rest of your screed has the same lack of factual evidence...that's why I cut the nonsense from my quote of your post.

You may be able to lie to yourself enough times that you actually begin to believe it, but it doesn't really work on people who have been paying attention.
 
Corruption and self interest is what it is!

Trump is guilty and he is corrupt to the nth degree. All evidence points to the now irrefutable fact that he tried to coerce the new president of Ukraine for his own personal gain. He abused the power given to him as president in an attempt to gain a strong edge in the next election and not for the benefit of the country but for himself.

He has also obstructed Congress in every way possible to prevent not only this situation with Ukraine from coming out but hide everything else that he has done either illegally or against the best interests of the country since the day he became president. Emoluments clause, releasing his tax returns, his relationship with Putin, his self interests with Saudi Arabia to name a few.

In addition, he has surrounded himself with people of the same ilk starting with Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Scott, Pruitt, Giuliani, Pompeo, Barr, McConnell, Sessions and all the other people that surround him that are simple "yes" men that follow and endorse what he does and are involved in perpetrating the corruption, if not for their economic benefit for their survival in their jobs.

This is now clear as a bell and all the excuses in the world can no longer dent what is so evidently clear.

To finish it off, we have most (close to all) the politicians in Congress that also endorse and support this action simply because they want to keep their jobs, knowing that doing what is right and lawful will have them lose their jobs because of the 63 million people that have been conned by Trump into believing in him simply because he put some money in their pockets, created a few more jobs, and put into effect the Republican goals of conservative approach to governing, which is what they want.

To obtain all of this, Trump supporters have abandoned ethics, morals, principles and humanity and everything that has actually made us great as a nation for over 240 years.

This nation has become a nation beholden to money, power, corruption and of no morality, simply to obtain the goals they want.

Trump, the people around him and his supporters have turned this nation into the exact opposite of what our forefathers fought and gave their lives to achieve.

I don't know about you, but living with an administration like this has made me lose my love and faith for the nation that I have had all my life. This nation no longer represents what I have always believed in. It is now turning into a pile of garbage that has been lowered to the levels of what the worst nations in the world represent and even lower because we all know better.

End of story.

I sincerely pray and hope that "enough" of the Senators that are judging this impeachment grow enough courage to put the nation ahead of their own self interests. If that were to happen, I would see a ray of light coming through.
I look forward to the president finally be given a fair opprotunity to refute the accusations made against him.

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Trump is only guilty of ignoring the long standing political understanding: “You leave our graft alone, and we will leave your graft alone. My kids have to eat, too.”

Exactly. His presidency is reflective of Trump’s style as a businessman: Find leverage, use power and ignore the rules laid out by the status quo. Because of how he governs, he's negotiated a lot of great deals that benefit this country.
The perpetually aggrieved, do business as usual DC status quo Democrats, and never-Trump politicians, don't like their apple cart being upset. Hence, they want him out by impeachment because they know the only way he's going is if he is forcibly removed from office. They can't and won't beat him at the polls.
 
Bottom line Mycroft, is that you are one of those that I talk about (the supporters and enablers).

Enough said. End of story, dismissed!

Facts are inconvenient to your narrative. I don't blame you for dismissing them.
 
You may be able to lie to yourself enough times that you actually begin to believe it, but it doesn't really work on people who have been paying attention.

Present any facts that Trump has done anything "for his own personal gain".
 
Facts are inconvenient to your narrative. I don't blame you for dismissing them.

Exactly. I tire of reading his argumentum ad passiones invective.
 
Exactly. I tire of reading his argumentum ad passiones invective.

Sorry Trix, but morality, ethics, principles and humanity are not passions invective. Without them you are nothing but a person that values money above all else. What is worse, is that the kind of money that you are getting from Trump are crumbs. I have seen beggars refuse to bend over for that amount. Even they sometimes seem to have a higher bar.
 
Present any facts that Trump has done anything "for his own personal gain".

Ask the SDNY who forced the Trump Foundation to shut its doors and donate $2 million to charity for using the Trump Foundation as a personal piggy bank for Trump to buy paintings of himself and silly **** like that.

Extorting the president of Ukraine so he could be re-elected would certainly fall under that category also. Trump's corruption now includes more than 2,300 conflicts of interest that benefit his finances, break his promises and violate the Constitution.
 
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Ask the SDNY who forced the Trump Foundation to shut its doors and donate $2 million to charity for using the Trump Foundation as a personal piggy bank for Trump to buy paintings of himself and silly **** like that.

Extorting the president of Ukraine so he could be re-elected would certainly fall under that category also. Trump's corruption now includes more than 2,300 conflicts of interest that benefit his finances, break his promises and violate the Constitution.

Now you are channeling my ex-wife again.

Trump didn't "extorting the president of Ukraine so he could be re-elected". Hell, Trump is a lock to get re-elected. He doesn't need anything from Ukraine to do it. Not like Hillary did...and failed.
 
Now you are channeling my ex-wife again.

Trump didn't "extorting the president of Ukraine so he could be re-elected". Hell, Trump is a lock to get re-elected. He doesn't need anything from Ukraine to do it. Not like Hillary did...and failed.

Yes he did and no he's not. You asked for facts on how he has used the presidency for his own personal gains. I gave you facts.
 
Yes he did and no he's not. You asked for facts on how he has used the presidency for his own personal gains. I gave you facts.

Nope. You didn't give any facts. You contend something that is baseless...that Trump did anything so he can get elected.
 
Nope. You didn't give any facts. You contend something that is baseless...that Trump did anything so he can get elected.

Does the corrupt Trump Foundation ring any bells? You go tell, the Southern District of New York right now that their claims were all baseless. Go ahead, do that.
 
Does the corrupt Trump Foundation ring any bells? You go tell, the Southern District of New York right now that their claims were all baseless. Go ahead, do that.

Not only is that irrelevant to the Ukraine issue, Trump wasn't even President when it happened.

Come on...surely you can find a relevant fact?
 
Corruption and self interest is what it is!

Trump is guilty and he is corrupt to the nth degree. All evidence points to the now irrefutable fact that he tried to coerce the new president of Ukraine for his own personal gain. He abused the power given to him as president in an attempt to gain a strong edge in the next election and not for the benefit of the country but for himself.

He has also obstructed Congress in every way possible to prevent not only this situation with Ukraine from coming out but hide everything else that he has done either illegally or against the best interests of the country since the day he became president. Emoluments clause, releasing his tax returns, his relationship with Putin, his self interests with Saudi Arabia to name a few.

In addition, he has surrounded himself with people of the same ilk starting with Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Scott, Pruitt, Giuliani, Pompeo, Barr, McConnell, Sessions and all the other people that surround him that are simple "yes" men that follow and endorse what he does and are involved in perpetrating the corruption, if not for their economic benefit for their survival in their jobs.

This is now clear as a bell and all the excuses in the world can no longer dent what is so evidently clear.

To finish it off, we have most (close to all) the politicians in Congress that also endorse and support this action simply because they want to keep their jobs, knowing that doing what is right and lawful will have them lose their jobs because of the 63 million people that have been conned by Trump into believing in him simply because he put some money in their pockets, created a few more jobs, and put into effect the Republican goals of conservative approach to governing, which is what they want.

To obtain all of this, Trump supporters have abandoned ethics, morals, principles and humanity and everything that has actually made us great as a nation for over 240 years.

This nation has become a nation beholden to money, power, corruption and of no morality, simply to obtain the goals they want.

Trump, the people around him and his supporters have turned this nation into the exact opposite of what our forefathers fought and gave their lives to achieve.

I don't know about you, but living with an administration like this has made me lose my love and faith for the nation that I have had all my life. This nation no longer represents what I have always believed in. It is now turning into a pile of garbage that has been lowered to the levels of what the worst nations in the world represent and even lower because we all know better.

End of story.

I sincerely pray and hope that "enough" of the Senators that are judging this impeachment grow enough courage to put the nation ahead of their own self interests. If that were to happen, I would see a ray of light coming through.

Oh - Trump again/constantly.

I assumed from the title that this was a Hillary thread.

Carry on.

:donkeyfla
 
You better believe it. I am partisan for the United States (my nation) and totally against the people who are corrupt and self-interested. Are you not partisan in the same way?

that is hysterically funny.
 
Sorry Trix, but morality, ethics, principles and humanity are not passions invective. Without them you are nothing but a person that values money above all else. What is worse, is that the kind of money that you are gettSing from Trump are crumbs. I have seen beggars refuse to bend over for that amount. Even they sometimes seem to have a higher bar.
Speaking of money, I recall you saying you were a financial advisor; so my question is when Trump was elected did you advise your clients to listen to Zandi and Krugman and the rest who predicted a crashing economy and long lasting recession? What have you been advising for the last four years? Have you stood by your principles or encouraged them to get into stocks and enjoy the 60% growth?
 
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