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Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

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Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

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Burisma corporate offices in a suburb of Kyiv.

1/13/20
With President Trump facing an impeachment trial over his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, Russian military hackers have been boring into the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the affair, according to security experts. The hacking attempts against Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company on whose board Hunter Biden served, began in early November, as talk of the Bidens, Ukraine and impeachment was dominating the news in the United States. It is not yet clear what the hackers found, or precisely what they were searching for. But the experts say the timing and scale of the attacks suggest that the Russians could be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens — the same kind of information that Mr. Trump wanted from Ukraine when he pressed for an investigation of the Bidens and Burisma, setting off a chain of events that led to his impeachment. The Russian tactics are strikingly similar to what American intelligence agencies say was Russia’s hacking of emails from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman and the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 presidential campaign. In that case, once they had the emails, the Russians used trolls to spread and spin the material, and built an echo chamber to widen its effect.

Then, as now, the Russian hackers from a military intelligence unit known formerly as the G.R.U., and to private researchers by the alias “Fancy Bear,” used so-called phishing emails that appear designed to steal usernames and passwords, according to Area 1, the Silicon Valley security firm that detected the hacking. In this instance, the hackers set up fake websites that mimicked sign-in pages of Burisma subsidiaries, and have been blasting Burisma employees with emails meant to look like they are coming from inside the company. The hackers fooled some of them into handing over their login credentials, and managed to get inside one of Burisma’s servers, Area 1 said. “The attacks were successful,” said Oren Falkowitz, a co-founder of Area 1, who previously served at the National Security Agency. Mr. Falkowitz’s firm maintains a network of sensors on web servers around the globe — many known to be used by state-sponsored hackers — which gives the firm a front-row seat to phishing attacks, and allows them to block attacks on their customers. “The timing of the Russian campaign mirrors the G.R.U. hacks we saw in 2016 against the D.N.C. and John Podesta,” the Clinton campaign chairman, Mr. Falkowitz said. “Once again, they are stealing email credentials, in what we can only assume is a repeat of Russian interference in the last election.”

As in 2016, the Russian state (GRU/Fancy Bear) is again trying to help Donald Trump win an election in 2020.

Here, they can manipulate stolen data or outright fabricate data to suit their goals and it is virtually impossible to determine what is real and what is manufactured.

Related: Report: Russia Hacked Ukrainian Energy Firm Tied To Impeachment Inquiry
 
So, pushing conspiracy is all you have at the moment.

Why am I not surprised?
 
The Russians doing it again to help the same crook they did last time. What do they have on Trump anyways to go to these lengths to elect him?
 
Russia should register as a Trump SuperPAC.
 
So, pushing conspiracy is all you have at the moment.

Why am I not surprised?

The report is correct so the only conspiracy here is Russia hacking. It doesn't take much imagination to determine that hacking Barisma's servers has something to do with Biden given that Barisma has no other reason to be of interest to Russia. It is also a private company and not a government company so it has no interest as far as the warring between Ukraine and Russia.

Keeping in mind that it has been proven that the Russians hacked the Democratic servers as well as Hillary's servers for the purpose of helping Trump win the eyection and Trump has been accused and impeached because of his attempt to get Ukraine to find dirt on Biden, or at least announce an investigation, it does not take much (if any) imagination to assume that they are once again trying to help Trump by finding (or planting) dirt on Biden through Barisma's servers.

Do You really have a problem assuming that self interested people will do anything to obtain what they want?

1) Trump being president is a benefit to Russia
2) It has been proven that Russia helped Trump win by hacking servers and meddling in the election.
3) Biden's son has been part of Barisma and has been the key issue that Trump has used to hurt Biden
4) Russia has no evident personal need to hack the servers of a private company
5) It has been clearly pointed out that Russia is once again going to meddle in the 2020

Conspiracy theory? Heck, yes and the worse thing is that they are doing it overtly given that they could have effectively masked their computer meddling signature but didn't, clearly saying "yes, we are doing this and you cannot stop us". Why can't we stop them? Because Trump is not sending anyone of our computer experts to Ukraine to help them against this attack. I wonder why Trump is not doing anything about this?

and by the way, aren't you and other Trump supporters always using the "deep state" conspiracy against Trump as a reason for what is happening to Trump? Conspiracy is true when it comes "against" Trump but not true when it comes "for" Trump?
 
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So, pushing conspiracy is all you have at the moment.

I have a story by the New York Times at the moment filled with facts.

All Trump roads lead to Russia.
 
Russia to the rescue again?
 
So, pushing conspiracy is all you have at the moment.

Why am I not surprised?

Yep. Conspiracy nutters. Putin has every right to fight corruption. I mean seriously; it was Hunter Biden who hacked the 2016 election, not Russia.
 
So, pushing conspiracy is all you have at the moment.

Why am I not surprised?

Like trump's "crowdstrike, owned by one of Ukraine's "rich guys" has the DNC servers hidden at it's home offices in ukraine" conspiracy that makes up the second "ask" in his "perfect call".

I can just see Rudy looking high and low for those offices and that Ukrainian, can't you.

I'm pretty sure they're hidden up a unicorn's ass somewhere.
 
The report is correct so the only conspiracy here is Russia hacking. It doesn't take much imagination to determine that hacking Barisma's servers has something to do with Biden given that Barisma has no other reason to be of interest to Russia. It is also a private company and not a government company so it has no interest as far as the warring between Ukraine and Russia.

Keeping in mind that it has been proven that the Russians hacked the Democratic servers as well as Hillary's servers for the purpose of helping Trump win the eyection and Trump has been accused and impeached because of his attempt to get Ukraine to find dirt on Biden, or at least announce an investigation, it does not take much (if any) imagination to assume that they are once again trying to help Trump by finding (or planting) dirt on Biden through Barisma's servers.

Do You really have a problem assuming that self interested people will do anything to obtain what they want?

1) Trump being president is a benefit to Russia
2) It has been proven that Russia helped Trump win by hacking servers and meddling in the election.
3) Biden's son has been part of Barisma and has been the key issue that Trump has used to hurt Biden
4) Russia has no evident personal need to hack the servers of a private company
5) It has been clearly pointed out that Russia is once again going to meddle in the 2020

Conspiracy theory? Heck, yes and the worse thing is that they are doing it overtly given that they could have effectively masked their computer meddling signature but didn't, clearly saying "yes, we are doing this and you cannot stop us". Why can't we stop them? Because Trump is not sending anyone of our computer experts to Ukraine to help them against this attack. I wonder why Trump is not doing anything about this?

and by the way, aren't you and other Trump supporters always using the "deep state" conspiracy against Trump as a reason for what is happening to Trump? Conspiracy is true when it comes "against" Trump but not true when it comes "for" Trump?


No, we see that it's a 3rd party who's saying that they believe it was Russia, nothing more and after four years of this continued idiocy from the left concerning Russia. I'm not really going to just outright believe what is being pitched right now.

You can be that desperate all you like, but I'll have no part in it and you can name off all the little points that you feel make some impact here, even though they really don't.

This continued crap about crying over Russia has gotten old. We know that there were sock puppet accounts that were spreading false information on facebook and twitter, but when it comes to the information leaked through Wikileaks. They turned out to be nothing more than the DNC's dirty laundry, which the American people had a right to know.

Do you know what will happen if it turns out to be Russia and they release this information through some other source?

I'll still not care, because the lot of you continually crying about them. Has basically made nearly everyone apathetic about the whole thing.
 
Like trump's "crowdstrike, owned by one of Ukraine's "rich guys" has the DNC servers hidden at it's home offices in ukraine" conspiracy that makes up the second "ask" in his "perfect call".

I can just see Rudy looking high and low for those offices and that Ukrainian, can't you.

I'm pretty sure they're hidden up a unicorn's ass somewhere.

So that's a yes on the conspiracy angle.

:roll:
 
Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

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Burisma corporate offices in a suburb of Kyiv.

As in 2016, the Russian state (GRU/Fancy Bear) is again trying to help Donald Trump win an election in 2020.

Here, they can manipulate stolen data or outright fabricate data to suit their goals and it is virtually impossible to determine what is real and what is manufactured.

Related: Report: Russia Hacked Ukrainian Energy Firm Tied To Impeachment Inquiry

So all I have to do is take a Russian keyboard, use a know Russian code, and use a Russian IP address and the left goes wild.

But of course Russia would use a Russian keyboard with a Russian code and a Russian IP address because they would be smart enough to hack a computer but wouldn't even think to cover their tracks?

Have you ever seen a more gullible group in your life?
 
The Russians doing it again to help the same crook they did last time. What do they have on Trump anyways to go to these lengths to elect him?

Dumb ass Democrats.
 
The report is correct so the only conspiracy here is Russia hacking. It doesn't take much imagination to determine that hacking Barisma's servers has something to do with Biden given that Barisma has no other reason to be of interest to Russia. It is also a private company and not a government company so it has no interest as far as the warring between Ukraine and Russia.

Keeping in mind that it has been proven that the Russians hacked the Democratic servers as well as Hillary's servers for the purpose of helping Trump win the eyection and Trump has been accused and impeached because of his attempt to get Ukraine to find dirt on Biden, or at least announce an investigation, it does not take much (if any) imagination to assume that they are once again trying to help Trump by finding (or planting) dirt on Biden through Barisma's servers.

Do You really have a problem assuming that self interested people will do anything to obtain what they want?

1) Trump being president is a benefit to Russia
2) It has been proven that Russia helped Trump win by hacking servers and meddling in the election.
3) Biden's son has been part of Barisma and has been the key issue that Trump has used to hurt Biden
4) Russia has no evident personal need to hack the servers of a private company
5) It has been clearly pointed out that Russia is once again going to meddle in the 2020

Conspiracy theory? Heck, yes and the worse thing is that they are doing it overtly given that they could have effectively masked their computer meddling signature but didn't, clearly saying "yes, we are doing this and you cannot stop us". Why can't we stop them? Because Trump is not sending anyone of our computer experts to Ukraine to help them against this attack. I wonder why Trump is not doing anything about this?

and by the way, aren't you and other Trump supporters always using the "deep state" conspiracy against Trump as a reason for what is happening to Trump? Conspiracy is true when it comes "against" Trump but not true when it comes "for" Trump?

So a Russian keyboard, using a Russian code, with a Russian IP address hacks a computer, and you are convinced its Russia.

The only ones working for the Russians are the gullible left.
 
Yep. Conspiracy nutters. Putin has every right to fight corruption. I mean seriously; it was Hunter Biden who hacked the 2016 election, not Russia.

I'm torn between believing this is satire or just stupid.
 
No, we see that it's a 3rd party who's saying that they believe it was Russia, nothing more and after four years of this continued idiocy from the left concerning Russia. I'm not really going to just outright believe what is being pitched right now.

You can be that desperate all you like, but I'll have no part in it and you can name off all the little points that you feel make some impact here, even though they really don't.

This continued crap about crying over Russia has gotten old. We know that there were sock puppet accounts that were spreading false information on facebook and twitter, but when it comes to the information leaked through Wikileaks. They turned out to be nothing more than the DNC's dirty laundry, which the American people had a right to know.

Do you know what will happen if it turns out to be Russia and they release this information through some other source?

I'll still not care, because the lot of you continually crying about them. Has basically made nearly everyone apathetic about the whole thing.

Since I started reading your posts over a year ago, I have not found that you have any kind of grasp on reality and this post of yours is just one more example that you still don't.

There is no doubt that Russia interfered in our election in favor of Trump You can deny it all you want but the people that investigated found that it did happen. Not only was it investigate but it has been proven over many decades that it is Putin's MO. As such, it is not only confirmed fact but simply common sense. All you have is uninformed opinion to the contrary given that you were not involved in the investigation yourself

Failing to understand what facts are actually facts means that everything you say is based on false information and therefore not believable. I would think that knowledge is something that everyone seeks but I have been sadly woken to the fact that a large portion of people (and most certainly Trump supporters as you are) and only interested in imposing their personal opinion and do not seek truth and knowledge.

I pity you!
 
So a Russian keyboard, using a Russian code, with a Russian IP address hacks a computer, and you are convinced its Russia.

The only ones working for the Russians are the gullible left.

haha1.jpg
 

We told you what would happen with Kavanaugh's Confirmation,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with Fords testimony
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Emoluments clause claims
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the subpoenaed Trump tax returns
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen on the border
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Mueller report,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Whistle Blower
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Nadler hearings,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Schiff's hearings,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you that not one single Republican would vote for Impeachment in the House
but you wouldn't listen

50 Forensic FBI agents, 2 dozen CIA Officials, 17 Attorneys, and 2500 witnesses told you there was no collusion
buy you wouldn't listen

Aren't we starting to see a pattern here?
 
Since I started reading your posts over a year ago, I have not found that you have any kind of grasp on reality and this post of yours is just one more example that you still don't.

There is no doubt that Russia interfered in our election in favor of Trump You can deny it all you want but the people that investigated found that it did happen. Not only was it investigate but it has been proven over many decades that it is Putin's MO. As such, it is not only confirmed fact but simply common sense. All you have is uninformed opinion to the contrary given that you were not involved in the investigation yourself

Failing to understand what facts are actually facts means that everything you say is based on false information and therefore not believable. I would think that knowledge is something that everyone seeks but I have been sadly woken to the fact that a large portion of people (and most certainly Trump supporters as you are) and only interested in imposing their personal opinion and do not seek truth and knowledge.

I pity you!

Question:
There is no doubt that Russia interfered in our election in favor of Trump You can deny it all you want but the people that investigated found that it did happen

Where did I even remotely state as such.

Throw the same idiotic insults that you like.

You're the one who apparently can't stop lying at this point, because I'm just pointing out that we still don't actually know if this is Russia.
 
We told you what would happen with Kavanaugh's Confirmation,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with Fords testimony
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Emoluments clause claims
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the subpoenaed Trump tax returns
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen on the border
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Mueller report,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Whistle Blower
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Nadler hearings,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you what would happen with the Schiff's hearings,
but you wouldn't listen

We told you that not one single Republican would vote for Impeachment in the House
but you wouldn't listen

50 Forensic FBI agents, 2 dozen CIA Officials, 17 Attorneys, and 2500 witnesses told you there was no collusion
buy you wouldn't listen

Aren't we starting to see a pattern here?

You are a comic in my opinion and absolutely nothing you say do I take seriously. It is like Trump who is a pathological liar. There is nothing he says I believe. He has established being a liar and you have established being a comic, a dark side comic but a comic nonetheless.

All your posts bring this out in me:

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Question:


Where did I even remotely state as such.

Throw the same idiotic insults that you like.

You're the one who apparently can't stop lying at this point, because I'm just pointing out that we still don't actually know if this is Russia.

Yes, we know it is/was Russia.
 
You are a comic in my opinion and absolutely nothing you say do I take seriously. It is like Trump who is a pathological liar. There is nothing he says I believe. He has established being a liar and you have established being a comic, a dark side comic but a comic nonetheless.

All your posts bring this out in me:

Yet my post is 100% accurate and you made my point perfectly. You don't even believe the actual failures of the past.

But you keep those memes coming.
 
So that's a yes on the conspiracy angle.

:roll:

At least we agree that the president is into stupid conspiracies.

(Please don't try to tell me trump never asked for that in his "perfect call".

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible."
 
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