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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Condor060 View Post
    Must be that 71% drop in illegal immigration that has you all worked up. I don't think most cares who pays for the wall. But most do care about criminals, drug dealers, and human traffickers having Democrat support and Democrat sanctuary cities to hide in.

    Now that this is all changing and these illegals don't have free rein to come across at will, you are more upset Mexico isn't paying for it while your candidates promote free tax payer provided healthcare for illegals.

    We all know where you stand. Thanks for clearing it all up for us.
    If there's been a 71% drop, why spend billions on a wall?
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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Old 'N Chill View Post
    I have to say....I've seen stupid posters before but that one ranks among the more stupid. A picture of Trump (and a good one) with some leftist words on it that can be done in ten seconds?
    When the debate is lost, the loser resorts to slander.

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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Paradoxical View Post
    Excellent post
    Pssst. Check this out.

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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Old 'N Chill View Post
    That the asshole lied to the American people to begin with about Mexico paying for his wall. Only an idiot would believe that Mexico was going to pay for Trump's wall. But you know Trump, he loves the uneducated people.
    Always plenty of idiots out there....
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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    If there's been a 71% drop, why spend billions on a wall?
    I think this is all a bunch of BS. The last thing Trump wants is his wall, because it's going to do next to nothing, and be exposed as a huge boondoggle.

    Trump, unlike a good chunk of his base, has heard of ladders.
    Supporting Trump, but claiming you are against racism...is like eating a Banana Split every day, but claiming you are against ice cream.

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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post
    Illegal immigration taxes: Unauthorized immigrants pay state taxes - Vox

    How does $11 billion in US taxes paid, annually, grab you?
    Not as much as their cost to the United states in services and schooling and free lunches and medical care of 200 BILLION a year.
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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    Pssst. Check this out.

    Admittedly that is very funny and well done. All I say is for you guys to keep it up. The "depolorables" worked well last time.
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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    [QUOTE=PIPEWRENCH;1071175926]First you secure our border then you charge them to come over. Just like any toll road or toll bridge. If they want to work in this country they need to get a work visa and have job. No more sneaking across and then seeing whose job they can take. No more working for cash and not paying taxes forcing our middle class to pay their way. No more working for less than minimum wage driving wages down and destroying everything our unions fought for. I have no problem bringing in workers if we have plenty of jobs. There are millions of law abiding people all over the world waiting patiently to come to our country legally. Time to get back to legal immigration by law abiding people who made America great.[/QUOTE

    Fair and Balanced write up. Thank You. Why can't Nancy Pelosi and her crew see that? Serious question! I just don't understand how everyone isn't on that Ban wagon.

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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    You think a wall will secure your border?
    Google 'San Ysidro border crossing' and see how many legal crossings there are in one day at one crossing. Juan doesn't wade the river with his clothes bundled on his head anymore, his whole family walks or drives across to go shopping or visit family or just for a long weekend and they just stay. That's how illegal immigration happens nowadays. But hey, build your wall. Your money, your choice. Might be other ways to apply resources, more effective ways, but a nice, shiny wall sure looks good to a certain segment.

    If WALLS don't work, then why does Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and the Vatican have walls? Serious question. The WALLS are there for PROTECTION against anyone or anything getting to you. TRUE and SIMPLE.

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    Re: Just As Trump Promised, Mexico Is Paying For His Wall

    Drugs! Illegals! Oh my!

    Fact-checking Trump team: most drugs enter U.S. through ports of entry

    But an analysis of data from the southern border indicates that the vast majority of narcotics enters through U.S. ports of entry, not the wide swaths of border in between where additional barriers could be erected.
    For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings : NPR

    The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, people who overstayed their visas accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.
    AP FACT CHECK: Visa overstays outpace border crossings

    While the U.S. is struggling to deal with an uptick of families and children seeking asylum from Central America, the number of border crossings has actually declined in recent years. Meanwhile, the number of foreigners who did not leave the country when they were supposed to — commonly called visa overstays — has stayed consistent. Temporary visas are issued to foreigners who want to work, study, travel or seek medical treatment in the country.

    Illegal immigrant detention is big business. It's no wonder nobody actually wants it to slow down, their buddies are getting rich and their campaigns are getting richer.

    Worth Rises — Immigration Detention: An American Business

    For example, Casa Padre in Brownsville, Texas holds nearly 1,500 children and is run by the non-profit Southwest Key, which is slated to receive $458 million of the nearly billion dollars ORR expects to spend on these shelters in 2018 despite past violations. In fact, between 2014 and 2018, ORR awarded $1.5 billion to contractors with serious allegations of child abuse and neglect. Southwest Key has also come under fire in recent weeks for dramatically increasing its CEO's compensation from roughly $786,000 in 2015 to $1.5 million in 2016 as it brings in revenue from the government in the current climate.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/02/u...-children.html

    Southwest Key has collected $1.7 billion in federal grants in the past decade, including $626 million in the past year alone. But as it has grown, tripling its revenue in three years, the organization has left a record of sloppy management and possible financial improprieties, according to dozens of interviews and an examination of documents. It has stockpiled tens of millions of taxpayer dollars with little government oversight and possibly engaged in self-dealing with top executives.

    But on Oct. 17, Mr. Sanchez donated $5,100 to the Arizona Republican Party, which controls the state’s government. His wife gave another $5,100. (Their previous political donations totaled no more than $2,100, made only to Democrats and liberal causes, records show.) A week later, the state agreed to a settlement that kept most Southwest Key shelters open.
    We are paying not only for the wall but for these private detention centers whose goal is to get more illegals to come for more taxpayer money.
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